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Does ranked actually have anything to do with your rank? Riot wants us in low elo.

Jenkins312·2/16/2020, 8:44:55 PM·2 votes·2,317 views

I have played 5 games today, 4 of those game, someone went afk. I did not win a single one of those 5 games. I lose more than 70LP and got deranked. Why do we get penalized for our teams poor behavior? Ranked is a mode where we test our own skills against others with intent to climb to the top. I dont believe riot wants us to climb to the top tho.

Being in challenger would mean you are the top 1-2% of the players who play this game. If being in challenger meant you were the top 20-30% of player, 'challenger' would lose all of its meaning. There would be no satisfaction to reaching challenger because 30% of the people who play this game reach that rank. Riot is very well aware of this. So, they create a ranked system that forces you into a 'class'. Similar to a lower class, middle class, and upper class in economic terms. A mass majority of players are put into the lower class (Bronze, Silver, Gold). Now this is normal in most games but, riot is very sneaky with their system. You see, while climbing, it doesnt matter what YOUR stats or or how well you are doing, its all about the team. Which brings me to my point, why do i get penalized for my teams poor behavior? Riot could very easily rank us based on our own stats but, choose not to. They look at the team as whole. This seems logical on paper but, does not work well in practice. We all know people tilt and afk on a regular basis in this game, so why do we get the blunt end of it? Even if we play what could be considered a 'perfect game', we could still lose the game resulting in MMR drop and LP loss. Then the following game, on average, the players are slightly less skilled than the game before. So, the odds of winning that next game, go down. Not because u played poorly or did something wrong but, because someone gave up or went afk in your previous game. I would love to say riot doesnt want you to get penalized but, i believe they do. If rank was based on each individual player instead of a team of 5 random people, people would rank up a lot more. Then the population of the higher elos would increase which means being in those high elos, loses its effect. If 50% of the players are in the top 3 elos, then whats the point of climbing to those elos? There isnt one.

Thats why we have the system we have now. It is to keep the mass majority of people in low elos so, the satisfaction of getting to high elos stays where it is. It is a political move that i highly disagree with. I have been getting quitter af quitter after quitter and my only option is to report them. I dont want to contribute to toxic nature of the game by trying to get someone in trouble so, they are prevented from playing the game. I just want to climb to the top using my skill to contribute to the team, win or lose, credit should be given to those who do well. believe i have what it takes to climb to the top but cant make it out of the lower class due to teammates poor behavior.

I have contacted riot numerous times about this issue and the only main response is to report them. Everyone is entitled to a bad day and reporting is to kick them while they are down. The lose is enough of a burden to said individual, why does the whole team get penalized for it though? Reporting is not the correct response to people who go afk. People wouldn't get reported for having an off day if their whole team did not get penalized for it.

This is a very competitive game and can get heated. Its all part of the game though. Reporting someone for leaving a game is merely adding to the toxicity. People wouldn't get upset about it, if they were not penalized for it. It's 100% out of their control, yet they reap the consequences.

RITO i'd love to hear any thoughts on this topic

8 Comments

Ache2/16/2020, 9:11:49 PM3 votes

Losing a lot of LP usually just means the system is trying to put you in a rank where you should maintain a 50% W/R. For example, I was gold last year, and (after losing 7 of my provisional games) I'm currently S4. When I win a match, I gain 25-27 LP. When I lose, I lose 12-14 LP.

Your rank is determined by your team (and you) because it's a team game. And, in all honesty, if you are a rank+ better than your teammates, you should be able to carry the game. Maybe not in KDA, but in shotcalling, vision, and objectives. It is a team game, and a lot of people forget that when they lose because someone on your team went 0/12. Yeah, they were the weak link in the team, but what did the rest of you do to combat 12 deaths?

Good luck in ranked!

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Jng Account2/16/2020, 9:13:13 PM3 votes

In long run, you are what matters, not trolls, not afks, not bad MM. You. L2p.

You are simply delusional. Blaming system instead of yourself. Improve.

Wins ans losses are what matters, if they didnt, game would turn into, kda, farm, vision fest, where noone actually wants to win.

I have been through iron to dia and claiming that there is not real difference and its all fake is stupid. Sorry, but 99,5% of players cant play the game, from this 0,5%(d1+) it gets slightly better, but then you have 0,0001% and that where talent is

Love Anastasia2/16/2020, 9:39:37 PM3 votes

What about stop blame a company because your failures? XD

Give me your account and i'll reach platinum in 1 day. How do you explain it?

TrulyBland2/18/2020, 1:45:51 PM2 votes

"Low Elo" has no meaning outside of the percentile of people in it. So "Riot wants us in low Elo" is inherently a contradiction. If the "mass majority" is in low Elo, it's not low Elo by any meaningful definition.

The flaw in your complaints about being penalized for other people playing badly can be illustrated in the following quote:

Even if we play what could be considered a 'perfect game', we could still lose the game resulting in MMR drop and LP loss.

You look at it from this perspective and only this perspective. What you fail to address is that you can also play a terrible game, and still win the game, resulting in an MMR increase and an LP gain.

These games where your own performance is irrelevant are going to cancel each other out in the long run. The games where your performance matter are the only ones that themselves matter. Or in other words: In the long run, only your performance matters, when it comes to your rank.

Love Anastasia2/17/2020, 1:41:00 AM1 votes

You keep posting that bs? Don't you realize how stupid it is? There will be ALWAYS ladder. It isn't possible to have a 30 % of challengers, like, its such an stupid idea that have to argument about this is a no sense

Just watch the worlds of 2011, they've the level of plats right now. And the ladder was like taht. Do you know why? Because the skill lvl required to be challenger 9 years ago is the skill level required to be plat today. And the plats of thay day had the lvl of a silver today. Literally is something so basic.