@ Teridax68

jwebb0113·Sep 2, 2017·1 votes·395 views

would love to speak with you on discord

jwebb0113 #2850

i think you took things too far and misunderstood things

waiting for you to reply

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Better JunglerSep 2, 20172 votes

Top 10 Anime Endings?

jwebb0113Sep 2, 20171 votes

still waiting for you Teridax68

would love to talk how you took things out of context and over stepped in your actions

Teridax68Sep 2, 20171 votes

Hi! As mentioned by Laughing Fish, once you are verified you are welcome to talk things through with me. If you wish to discuss your case here, though, I might have to bring up the posts you have made that I deleted, if prompted to do so.

jwebb0113Sep 2, 20171 votes

oh i dont care if you bring them up... i posted them .. they were already made public

and that is why i asked for you to respond

the comment about toxic people saying gg ez and me saying those type of people are assholes is a true statement... it was not directed at any single person by name or anything of the such... and when i comment my internal monologue about a personal pet peeve of mine and use the phrase "id like to stab them in the face" which you deemed to be violent wasnt literal !!!

but in the lil pc safe place world you try to police with your own morality you took literally. therefore deleted the comment when at no point it was anything more suggestive then the in game animated violence we play... or the terms people use describing the game such as cancerous, aids, raped etc those you let go and look the other way but my figure of speech who was directed at not a real person you deemed was a no no.

2ndly the other comment you deleted it was a direct reply to the OP who said that the player and champ they are bitching over wasnt higher elo them they were was just to point out that player is unranked ( low elo/level) which is what i stated and the player he/she faced was of higher elo

which was both true... it wasnt in insult or a put down or directed with any kind of hate. but somehow you took it in your mind as inflammatory and deleted it.

when the OP was crying how it was unfair and the champ was broke and was bias in their argument based on their personal experience of that game where they got out played and beaten by a better player. and that all that statement was.

so i will say i disagree with the decision you made based on how you made them and the statements ( whether or not you agree with my points of the statements or context based on your personal believes or opinions ) was over stepping.

i dont give two shits you deleted them or not its what you based why they needed to be deleted. that is what i disagree with... you however in your power giving by the gods that be that let you be a mod decided that they fell into those categories. now i get it with your lil empowerment you have been granted you are gonna stand on your "higher ground" and dont have to reply to this or admit any misjudgment ... matter of fact i dont expect you to. but if my comments were to far and deemed to break the rules or your own judgement of those rules then so be it... but if those were then majority of the comments on the boards are in violation of the rules and what is good for the goose is good for the gander

in closing i dont expect you to respond , thats fine. i dont expect for you to un-delete them , i dont care. what i want is some damn consistency in policing and applying the rules and guide lines.

Teridax68Sep 2, 20171 votes

I very specifically let you know in my deletion message that "these are people I'd like to stab in the face" is violent language, even when it wasn't meant to be taken literally. Other posters who responded to that same comment said just as much. Similarly, in the second post you called the OP a "bad player", among other things, which may to you be just another word for someone in a lower elo, but in practice did come off as offensive. I don't go through player behavior trying to exert power, I go to make sure players get along and treat each other with at least a minimum of respect, in accordance with the rules, something you are failing to do even in this reply you just made to me. I advise you to take a short break from this discussion, and perhaps the Boards, and come back the next day when the emotional component to this exchange blows over.

jwebb0113Sep 2, 20171 votes

and in the post about the stabbing someone in the face i even put before that " as an example" meaning not a real situation and one other poster took it to the extreme and didnt grasp the context

its no different then when you are in traffic and someone cuts you off and you think to yourself or out loud " man i wish i could get away with running you off the road" not like you are gonna do it... its an expression

just like OMG THAT DARIUS JUST RAPED ME that is ok to use ? or in a thread say OMG I JUST GOT RAPED BY DARIUS HE IS AIDS AND CANCEROUS that entire statement is filled with vile things that is all accepted as normal talk on the boards

yet there is a post that is up as a counter point to the post which you deleted my comment from that states as a title "committing murder " but that entire post still stands

and as far as the other comment isnt it accepted that low level unranked players are bad and using that as a phrase is very very commonly used on the boards by nearly all ? like OMG YOU ARE BRONZE you are bad your opinion is invalid cuz im GOLD nearly the exact same meaning.

oh im not emotional at all ... once again an over sight by you and and your interruption of context based on your opinion. none of these exchanges are emotional. this is just a conversation based on difference of opinion. and neither post was that offensive or extreme cuz we see way worst day after day post after post that are left alone.

like i stated i dont care that my comments got deleted and you used your judgement to do so... im asking for you and the mods to be more constant with your judgement which is why i stated " what i want is some damn consistency in policing and applying the rules and guide lines."

so the post about saying "Not everyone wants to ban people for saying GGEZ or think they are comming murder" is just as suggestive as my post you deleted and has violent language

so like i stated whats good for the goose is good for the gander

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

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just like OMG THAT DARIUS JUST RAPED ME that is ok to use ? or in a thread say OMG I JUST GOT RAPED BY DARIUS HE IS AIDS AND CANCEROUS that entire statement is filled with vile things that is all accepted as normal talk on the boards

It's not though, and we discourage usage of that kind of language. However, wishing violence upon others, no matter how jokingly, is a step above, which is why I stepped in. Again, even if you intended that to not be taken seriously (and I don't think it was meant to be taken seriously either), it is still language that is absolutely not permissible on the Boards. Even if you disagree with this, it is in your best interest to control yourself at least a little more when expressing yourself, as using that kind of language will otherwise get yourself in trouble. We may not always be as up-to-speed as you are on which posts stand and which posts remain, which is why I encourage you to report posts you think are toxic, so that we may respond as best we can. When a post does take more time to go down than you think it should, it is not a deliberate move on our part. If you want us to assume good faith from your own posts, you should not be assuming malice from us in return.

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

didnt wish violence on any one

but you cant seem to grasp that... i didnt direct it to any one at all ... i didnt say i was gonna do any violent thing to any person in the boards ever using a figure of speech and directing it towards someone as a threat is two completely different things. sorry you seem to confuse it and take it out of context.

and as far as reporting post i do all the damn time , i report flat out verbal harassment and stalking and bullying and not jack shit gets done... and its clear as day ... dont need to make a judgement of context. i dont assume malice. i want and should be able to assume constancy in the enforcement. that is what im pointing out... once again i dont care you remove my post. its the fact that the policing is more bias and based on opinion and interpretation then fact and how its intended. and the only thing you have to stand on is the verbiage instead of the context and intent.

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

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using a figure of speech and directing it towards someone as a threat is two completely different things.

They are, and if you had directed it at a particular individual on the Boards you would have been banned on the spot. However, both cases are bad as far as violent language is concerned, regardless of context, and it is this part you cannot seem to grasp. Use those "figures speech" at your own peril, as doing so in the future will levy harsher punishments than simple deletions.

Also, this sentence:

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i dont assume malice.

Is in direct contradiction with this part of your paragraph:

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its the fact that the policing is more bias and based on opinion and interpretation then fact and how its intended.

So are you or are you not assuming bad intentions from us Wardens?

More to the point, do you really believe that, out of the hundreds of posters on here, I or any other Warden would take a special dislike to you? We have never interacted in the past, not even as regular users, and out of all the reports we've addressed today, yours were in no way special. The only exceptional factor to your case is that you seem to believe your posts had been deleted unjustly, even as posters unrelated to the argument you were engaged in were also criticizing your behavior, and you decided to call me out for it.

It is easy to accuse mods of bias or abuse of power, simply because we wield that power and have used it against you, but the reality of it is that you are not special in this regard. Yes, as a Warden I do have power over you, and I have chosen to interrupt you in the middle of a heated debate you were having with another poster, which you are still taking issue with. However, that does not make me your enemy, and in general we Wardens in general try to assume good faith when we can, and only delete posts that are truly egregious. I do not remember what you were debating then, and to be honest I don't care, as it had no impact on the merit of your own content. In the end, you were reported, your posts were bad enough to be deleted, and so I deleted them. Even if you want to pretend that you said nothing worth removing, your behavior was still negative, and should not be your default mode of action on these Boards, so you may want to question your own biases first before accusing me of the same. I am not going to make a special case for you simply because you personally do not feel you should be held accountable for your own words.

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

i never said you intentionally were using malice towards me...

i have clearly stated that in making your judgement you have let your own miss understood the context based on your bias to the verbiage.

and for the 3rd time ill state im just asking for constancy.

now you are referring to my behavior as negative based on what? your opinion? my comment about my personal pet peeve and small talk etc that whole statement was my opinion. it wasnt being negative towards any one. its not up for you or the rules to enforce my disposition on how i see things. if i feel i hate small talk and think its worthless and i dont like mornings etc as i stated in that comment then regardless if you like it or dislike it, think its a negative point of view on that matter of my context dont matter. cuz me stating that didnt break any rules.

the only thing you have to stand on is the verbiage of the statement that you deemed to be violent . yet we play a game filled with violence talking on the forum about said game and its violence.

so it would see you didnt read the statement as whole and the context of the statement all you saw was the so called violent language that you found was deemed worthy to remove.

talk about censorship over voicing an opinion in a situation in a hypothetical scenario. and there was no heated debate... people are overly sensitive cuz if there was a heated debate then every comment i made in response to the person who reported cuz he cant grasp context either would of been deleted along with the original comment

and once again im not taking issue with the fact you remove the comment... its the lack of constancy from the mods and how they use opinion to make their judgement.

but in the end with your power as a mod you can delete any post you dont like for any reason... no one else can delete the post or comments ( other then the writer ) besides the mods. so just as this conversation has taken place, which you seem to confrontational when i dont and find it to be a healthy discussion on context and lack there of, could delete this whole thread. the only justification you need is to find it deemed to not be with guidelines or productive etc but there is nothing wrong with this conversation at all. however i dont agree with how you are coloring me as a being negative just cuz i have a different out look and point of view on things. that would be considered your opinion based on your personal bias. but i will leave you with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3J25B7EIFg

yet is this negative and violent ? or funny?

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

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the only thing you have to stand on is the verbiage of the statement that you deemed to be violent . yet we play a game filled with violence talking on the forum about said game and its violence.

Except the threats there are made by champions, towards other champions or in-game characters in general. Players do not go around expressing how they want to stab morning people or whatever. You can try to finagle on this point as much as you want, but the rules are clear on this, and you will only hurt yourself in trying to apply your own personal code here over the Boards' Universal Rules.

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but in the end with your power as a mod you can delete any post you dont like for any reason... no one else can delete the post or comments ( other then the writer ) besides the mods. so just as this conversation has taken place, which you seem to confrontational when i dont and find it to be a healthy discussion on context and lack there of, could delete this whole thread.

I can delete posts, but in doing so also place myself under the scrutiny of my fellow Wardens and the Boards Arbiters, as we check in on each other in case someone has made a mistake or is abusing their power. No such issue was found here. You could also have very well come to the Boards Discord, as you announced in the very beginning of this thread and in the OP, but you have not made any move to do so. I tried to assume good faith on your part, but here it is clear you are simply posting publicly with the intent of trying to make me and my fellow Wardens look bad, and I think deep down you know you are wrong in this, as you would have otherwise come to our Discord, like you said, and had a chat with me.

This should also make you wonder why this thread is here in the first place: if you were right, and I were this biased mod who deleted stuff I didn't like for no particular reason, I could have just as easily deleted this thread, and nobody would know. If not, at least I could have simply ignored you. However, not only do I have no intention of deleting this thread, I also took the time to respond to you, trying to explain to you the reasons why I deleted your posts, even as you threw accusations and attacks on my character right out the gate. Not only have you set yourself up to fail, but you are also making yourself not look so good in the process either. So, by all means, keep calling us Wardens biased, see if it convinces anyone reading through here.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

so yet you dont think calling me negative bias?

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

No, I don't, because there is a lot of evidence that you are not behaving correctly, as I have brought up already in this line of conversation. Bias is prejudice, and is not founded upon evidence. You yourself have not produced a shred of evidence to support your accusations of me being biased towards you or abusive of my power, and still you thought it appropriate to assault my credibility as a Warden on those grounds. That is bias.

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

where was i negative as you stated

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

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where was i negative as you stated

Here:

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I very specifically let you know in my deletion message that "these are people I'd like to stab in the face" is violent language, even when it wasn't meant to be taken literally. Other posters who responded to that same comment said just as much. Similarly, in the second post you called the OP a "bad player", among other things, which may to you be just another word for someone in a lower elo, but in practice did come off as offensive.

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Use those "figures speech" at your own peril, as doing so in the future will levy harsher punishments than simple deletions.

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Even if you want to pretend that you said nothing worth removing, your behavior was still negative, and should not be your default mode of action on these Boards, so you may want to question your own biases first before accusing me of the same.

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Players do not go around expressing how they want to stab morning people or whatever. You can try to finagle on this point as much as you want, but the rules are clear on this, and you will only hurt yourself in trying to apply your own personal code here over the Boards' Universal Rules.

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You could also have very well come to the Boards Discord, as you announced in the very beginning of this thread and in the OP, but you have not made any move to do so. I tried to assume good faith on your part, but here it is clear you are simply posting publicly with the intent of trying to make me and my fellow Wardens look bad, and I think deep down you know you are wrong in this, as you would have otherwise come to our Discord, like you said, and had a chat with me.

Do have anything new to add to this discussion?

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

i didnt take it public to make you look bad.. i took it here cuz there is nothing to hide

and those are your comments not mine... so i wasnt negative in any of those statements

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

Except you've been denying all wrongdoing on your part, and have been announcing one thing while doing the other. For example, you still haven't presented yourself to the Discord, despite still having the opportunity to do so, and in spite of your purported initial intentions.

Additionally, each of my responses were in response to quoted statements from your own comments, including your deleted posts. Pretending that actions have not happened on the very space where you committed those actions does not play in your favor.

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

i posted the discord for you to join... its in the OP ...

i waited ... no one joined ...

so i spoke to on here.

i never said i didnt say what i stated i never said the verbiage wasnt violent ...

i never denied what i said... i denied the intentions in which you interrupted it to be and the context you took it in.

then you use the statement that im negative but based on what ... your opinion for me having a different way of seeing things and expressing those things which was all forms of speech used figuratively

my whole argument is the fact you dont take context into consideration you just look at the text just like the robot in client that has key words it focuses on to ban people for no no words regardless of context

this has all been about context and having constancy in policing the policy and guide lines...

i stated it more then once that is what im asking for constancy ...

now have i been argumentative ? of course... but i dont have to blindly agree with your decisions. have i been vulgar or offensive to you? nope ... i think we had a grown up conversation unlike the majority of the comments on the boards.

i respect the fact that you were and are willing to speak to me. i get it due to your status you have to refrain and be careful of what and how you say things. cuz im sure you think im a pain in the ass, and most likely dont wanna deal with me.

Teridax68Sep 3, 20171 votes

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i posted the discord for you to join... its in the OP ...

i waited ... no one joined ...

I recommend you try again, then, as I asked my fellow Wardens if you had joined and they confirmed to me that you did not come on there. It is you who are supposed to join the Discord and post the link to your ID here for you to get verified, by the way. If you really did and do want to try honoring what you have said, then I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Also, as has been said to you multiple times this thread, the context did not matter for the removal of your post. I have stated numerous times that I myself did not think you were actually threatening anyone, and did not assume any intentions of wrongdoing on your part. You simply put forth violent language and, however much in jest that was, it had no place on this space. You cannot keep pretending that I misattributed context at this point, as I have told you now several times that the context was not what mattered, and did not exempt the post from removal even after being considered. Please understand that there are simply things you cannot say in polite company, or at least on the Boards, violent language of any kind being among them.

jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

i posted the discord waited for over 30 mins with it open and then left it

jwebb0113Sep 10, 20171 votes

yo mod!

there is a post where there is constant harassment , suggesting violence towards someone and insulting someone...

has been reported multiple of times now and nothing been done

this is what i meant in my post to you about constancy in policing the boards

JackSparrow94Sep 3, 20171 votes

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jwebb0113Sep 3, 20171 votes

how am i a cancer?

cuz i dont agree with black cleaver on tristana ?

Laughing FishSep 2, 20171 votes

If you wish to talk with a moderator on discord, your best bet would be to join our Boards Moderation Discord server. Teridax68, as well as the rest of our moderation staff, can assist you there.

jwebb0113Sep 2, 20171 votes

i gave my discord in the post