@Heralds: When some1 attacks other ppl in public he/she/it is accountable for what he/she/it says

Stars Shaper·Sep 6, 2018·2 votes·1,338 views

I've been called a criminal, a manchild and have been welcomed to suicide by ppl who official speak for Riot and have been even defended while they were attacking any1 trying to have a decent discussion with them.

This golden rule of yours is rubbish if you cna't keep it inside your company walls. We've been here with lots of decent discussion that went completely unanswered but we as players are still enduring it while Riot should have been the first going down and silence both parties.

I feel offended, put at shame and threatened by the escalating hate that is being thrown against me since I made this horrbile crime of being born with male genitals and feel comfortable with it and I even happen to like females.

I'm not even defending what it has been erased because I used a word too much, but for everything that is holy in this universe... any1 defending Froskurinn or DZK is defending a fascist behavior because they are sustaining ppl who promote the idea that straight males that defend themselves from sexist acts (because sexism against males EXISTS) is only worth to die in a airplane turbine.

5 Comments

ModThe DjinnSep 6, 20185 votes

I'd like to clarify our position here. Firstly (and importantly), we're not Riot. We're board moderators. As such, our concern is the boards, not what happens outside the boards.

##Things the moderation team is NOT doing

Supporting the actions or any single individual or company.
Condemning the actions of any single individual or company.
Censoring opinions on either side of the conversation (save where the manner those opinions are expressed violates the board rules).

##Things the moderation team IS doing

Enforcing our rules against insults/attacks (that occur on the boards -- we don't control anything BUT the boards).
Enforcing our rules against social/political discussion (save where immediately relevant to the current situation).

OleandervineSep 6, 20184 votes

Daniel Klein didn't officially speak on behalf of Riot. He was just stupid and used his real name for his Twitter, which made it easy to identify him as a Riot employee. He's just spewing his idiotic, toxic personal opinions, and because we know he works for Riot, it reflects badly that Riot hasn't publicly punished him yet for behavior players would get banned for in game. If he was spewing these opinions under a pseudonym like almost everyone else online where we wouldn't know his affiliation to Riot games, this wouldn't even be a problem.

Stars ShaperSep 6, 20182 votes

So you are suggesting to use a fake profile to make sexist/rape/suicide jokes in order not to create well deserved shitstorms?

Edit: It would be a huge problem if some1 didn't notice that and let this untouched. Internet anonymity is too much of an excuse when things like this are being displayed on public platforms.

DuskDaUmbreonSep 6, 20183 votes

Dude, that's not what he said at all.

OleandervineSep 6, 20183 votes

Not at all. That kind of behavior is awful no matter how you spin it.

However, if Braum69Urgot wrote this kind of shit on a forum or twitter, no one would give two flying fucks about him because he's some random idiot on the internet. Because he's anonymous and we don't know who he is, he's irrelevant and his words really don't have power.

But let's say that this person is now David Z. Klein. Now we DO know who he is. And instead of being some anonymous idiot on the internet, we found out he works for Riot games. Now we know he's associated with the game, and where an anon rando could say any shit he wanted, David Z. Klein's comments are now under a social microscope because of his employer and their recent scandal, and he also puts his employer in a tight spot because people are now looking to them and expecting them to moderate and or punish David because of his shitty language and behavior. His words now have a degree of power because of his known affiliation with the game - even if his words are just his shitty personal opinions, they are now bound to Riot games, and there are now expectations and consequences that are expected because of that affiliation.

In short, there wouldn't even be this shit storm if he'd have used a screen name. The comments would have been dismissed entirely and the controversy and scandal would have ended with the oopsie at the PAX debacle. Instead, because he didn't use a screen name, the conversation is still going, and he's ended up pissing off a LOT of people and doing a helluva lot of damage to the PR image of his work place.