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@Evangele a few things to discuss regarding mod Jikker

Jinzaburo··4 votes·2,263 views

A few things because well it is a few things

Just moment ago she not only removed one of my thread and she removed one of my response(just an opinion on why I didn't take someone's suggestion for employment opportunity) This thread and response are from two days or so ago

First of all the thread it was a meme of a picture with Lulu going to sleep with a caption in the title "Lulu going to sleep now" Which is what the typical person using Meme & Games would put in. It has been up there for two days or so and even accumulated quite a few up votes.

https://i.ibb.co/pZcKY75/3453454354.png[/img]

ten minutes later she removed one of my response

https://i.ibb.co/t8RHjYs/5675676576.png because of how specifically this is, she doing both these actions and in short duration of time between. I cannot help but feel this is targeted.

Five days ago she removed one of my response basically just to tell someone to back off from harassing me. Today I made a thread and statement I'm tired of the harassment. Even at the moment I said I'm leaving this person continue to harass me. The golden rule of don't be a jerk should apply to everyone

https://i.ibb.co/pjQcfPd/57567567.png[/img][/url]

17 Comments

ModEvangele6 votes

Nami Hey circle,

I've taken a look at all of this and I am not seeing anything that would indicate Jikker is doing anything other than her job as a moderator. She is not targeting you or anything of the like.

Memes and Games is a tough board sometimes because the meme might not be obvious to everyone else, but I generally agree with her that if you want to post cute art that there is no general joke revolving around then the best place for that is Concepts and Creations. I'm almost positive they would really love your fan art posts there (Or even on GD) especially if you condensed them so there were more than 1 piece of art in each one. You're very good at finding good art. We do the best we can trying to catch all moderatable posts, but as we are volunteers we inevitably miss some. You can help us with this by reporting posts that you feel violate our Universal Rules.

As per the other removal, while the moderation team understands that you are having some problems with a Discord server, Boards unfortunately is not the place to discuss it. Nobody here has any control over external things such as Discord servers and while some who post here might also be in that Discord we always ask for -everyone- to be treated with respect while on the Boards (externally we cannot control). Being accusatory and posting that people are part of a conspiracy isnt really respectful. My best suggestion would be just to ignore those people if they post on your posts. If you dont think they have treated you well just do not engage with them at all. If you believe they are harassing you on Discord or from the Discord you can contact Discord support though their twitter I believe, or if it is very serious you can follow these steps.

Hotarµ4 votes

Remember that the moderators aren't always available 100% of the time. They're not employees of Riot, just volunteers that want to help out. That's probably why your post was removed a few days after being posted. (I could be wrong)

The Lulu thing I can see it as them mistaking it for a piece of artwork. That's why you were redirected to 'Concepts & Creations.' Also that doesn't really sound like a meme to me. A picture of Lulu sleeping titled "Lulu going to sleep now" just sounds like fanart or a general discussion post.

The response removal was sort of warranted I guess. I mean you said she basically abuses her powers, has negative intentions, and wants to see you 'torn in two'? That doesn't sound constructive at all and it doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not sure I 100% agree with it being removed but I can see why someone else might think so.

ModJikker3 votes

Hey,

I'm sorry for any confusion regarding that first removal. I saw it more as an artist piece which is not a meme but something to be showcased on Concepts & Creations, the sub-board for fan made creations. Memes usually involve words or inside jokes rather than just a nice piece of artwork. Please note that anything removed for being in the wrong sub-board is not a mark against your account so no need to worry about that and feel free to post the image in C&C if you'd like. With regards to the meme's you've seen:

https://i.ibb.co/Qc23PFt/45654654.png[/img][/url]

It's a reaction meme of him "pining". It's sort of the same as a TFW meme

https://i.ibb.co/0ZksvTQ/089098.png[/img][/url]

This is meme'ing about how these images look like T1, a well known streamer who has recently been featured in memes for an image where he looks kinda ridiculously short compared to someone else.

https://i.ibb.co/QFrcTCB/56756765.png[/img][/url]

This is meme'ing that Voli is never touched and is sad that he isn't being fixed while other popular champs receive tons of nerfs and buffs.

Regarding the second removal, commenting that people are part of a conspiracy has only brought in negative commentary and isn't really good for discussion. Since you have posted this removal here, I can break it down a bit more for you. It's not cool to accuse someone who is making a simple suggestion with what they consider to be fun (driving a forklift -- can confirm, they look fun as heck having worked in a factory before) of being out to incite harm against you. In addition, this.....

Remember that the moderators aren't always available 100% of the time. They're not employees of Riot, just volunteers that want to help out. That's probably why your post was removed a few days after being posted.

.....is 100% accurate. Sometimes things don't show up or we have other pressing matters that need attending to first. Generally unless a comment is really inappropriate, we don't remove things a week or so old, but given this was just a few days ago, I felt it appropriate to remove it.

Regarding the comment you believe should be removed, I don't see any issues with it. The person is saying that it's been a bit of a weird journey with your return after so many years given there were some ups and downs, but is jokingly saying a typical GD response of "see you tomorrow" of which others have posted on the thread as well.

I would like to assure you that I am not targeting you or anyone on the Boards. The number of removals, edits, and locks I have done personally today is quite a few and you are not the only one to have had a comment fall into the "few days have passed" category. The only reason you may see yours as being close together is simply that I review reports person by person so yours were evaluated together.

If you would like to discuss this further in private or speak to a Herald on the matter, I do recommend coming to the Discord as we can go into more detail there.

I hope this helps explain things a bit better and let me know if I can better clarify your situation.

[poppy-wink]

Jinzaburo1 votes

{quoted}

Hey,

I'm sorry for any confusion regarding that first removal. I saw it more as an artist piece which is not a meme but something to be showcased on Concepts & Creations, the sub-board for fan made creations. Memes usually involve words or inside jokes rather than just a nice piece of artwork. Please note that anything removed for being in the wrong sub-board is not a mark against your account so no need to worry about that and feel free to post the image in C&C if you'd like. With regards to the meme's you've seen:

It's a reaction meme of him "pining". It's sort of the same as a TFW meme

This is meme'ing about how these images look like T1, a well known streamer who has recently been featured in memes for an image where he looks kinda ridiculously short compared to someone else.

This is meme'ing that Voli is never touched and is sad that he isn't being fixed while other popular champs receive tons of nerfs and buffs.

So my meme is about Lulu going to sleep because she looks tired in the picture. I have posted other art in Meme & Games with nothing but a short caption Ive seen many others do it. I can't help but think you're just targeting me. If you say it belongs in concept and creation why isn't it moved there?

[{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=HAIxxyRE,comment- Regarding the second removal, commenting that people are part of a conspiracy has only brought in negative commentary and isn't really good for discussion. Since you have posted this removal here, I can break it down a bit more for you. It's not cool to accuse someone who is making a simple suggestion with what they consider to be fun (driving a forklift -- can confirm, they look fun as heck having worked in a factory before) of being out to incite harm against you. In addition, this.....

The guy is right here in this thread

ModJikker4 votes

{quoted}

So my meme is about Lulu going to sleep because she looks tired in the picture. I have posted other art in Meme & Games with nothing but a short caption Ive seen many others do it. I can't help but think you're just targeting me. If you say it belongs in concept and creation why isn't it moved there?

We are unfortunately limited in our capabilities on the Boards. Don't get me started or I'll have to remove my own hate filled rant towards the lack of ability to move, but we cannot move threads. Not even one. Sadly, that means incorrectly posted threads have to be deleted and reposted by the original poster. This is just a limitation of these terribly wonderfully programmed Boards (I told you not to get me started!)

I didn't see a common meme in that thread as I did in your examples and it seemed to be more a description of the artwork. I can ask for a second opinion from the mods if you would like. Again though, this is not a mark against your account or anything negative. Pretend I moved your thread only you have to "approve" (recreate) the move.

The guy is right here in this thread

I am not seeing any harassing from him in this thread or elsewhere. People are welcome to post on whatever thread they please with whatever opinion they wish so long as it follows the Board Universal Rules. If you are having trouble with someone from an unofficial 3rd party discord, it is best to solve such things there than to bring the problems here. We can't take action against something that doesn't happen on the Boards or the official Boards Discord.

Jinzaburo1 votes

{quoted}

I didn't see a common meme in that thread as I did in your examples and it seemed to be more a description of the artwork. I can ask for a second opinion from the mods if you would like. Again though, this is not a mark against your account or anything negative. Pretend I moved your thread only you have to "approve" (recreate) the move.

I only took no more than 10 seconds to scroll down the Meme & Games to find a thread like this

https://i.ibb.co/k19GDCv/45654654.png[/img][/url]

My thread discussion was more of a meme than anything, it was a picture of a tired Lulu and I put the caption she's going to sleep in the title.

ModJikker2 votes

{quoted}

I only took no more than 10 seconds to scroll down the Meme & Games to find a thread like this

https://i.ibb.co/k19GDCv/45654654.png[/img][/url]

My thread discussion was more of a meme than anything, it was a picture of a tired Lulu and I put the caption she's going to sleep in the title.

We don't always catch everything. The Boards are a big place and often without reports, things do fly under our radar. It is no different than the guy that speeds and doesn't get caught simply because an officer isn't around. It doesn't make it right. I don't frequent M&G so often I don't see things like that. Your thread just happen to be reported so I noticed it.

In regards to that, I would remove it as well since it is not a meme. However, it is 11 days old so it falls in that category of "too old to matter". I will look into it nonetheless.

EDIT: Upon further inspection, that thread would be borderline as it is not Twitch's new skin, but rather trying to meme his old one. I'd probably still recommend it be in GD. It takes a long while to scroll to and has died off the first few front pages so it has passed the mark of removal worthy

Asamas1 votes

{quoted}

Hey,

I'm sorry for any confusion regarding that first removal. I saw it more as an artist piece which is not a meme but something to be showcased on Concepts & Creations, the sub-board for fan made creations. Memes usually involve words or inside jokes rather than just a nice piece of artwork. Please note that anything removed for being in the wrong sub-board is not a mark against your account so no need to worry about that and feel free to post the image in C&C if you'd like. With regards to the meme's you've seen:

As far as I see it it is a screenshot from a game and it is reusable. The dino do look sad while watching the train so the meme is there. But oh well

2nd Chance2 votes

I thought you were quitting?

You quit even quitting in less than a day

Wizard Blaze1 votes

its normal. anything she, he or it get triggers and not like the post deletes it. probably fascism is normal thing among SOME moderators

Jinzaburo1 votes

I find it strange especially for the Lulu thread it was there for more than two days I think. It accumulated 30+ upvotes and over 11k views for others to enjoy. I find the timing a little strange also the same moderator who gave me a warning for something else 10 minutes later. That also been there for over two days

It's the timing I find strange

you know I don't really like this community anymore, like I don't want to be here anymore but if you were in my shoes would you not say anything

Jinzaburo1 votes

Here are examples of discussions made in Meme & Games that share the same format style to my discussion "Lulu goes to sleep now" just a picture and a caption

https://i.ibb.co/Qc23PFt/45654654.png[/img][/url]

https://i.ibb.co/0ZksvTQ/089098.png[/img][/url]

https://i.ibb.co/QFrcTCB/56756765.png[/img][/url]

ModWulf Helhammer6 votes

As Jikker explained, those really aren't the same kind of thing. There's no real joke or anything in your Lulu image, it's just a cute fanart, which makes it better fit for Concepts and Creations or General Discussion.

Friendly Ram1 votes

Well at least its not banning you from the boards like Wuks is known for.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

Oh boy.

I'm starting to think you're harassing me more than I'm "harassing" you.

Jinzaburo1 votes

I want Eva to give me a response on this, or at least to read it

Jinzaburo1 votes

Hi Eva,

I'm sorry Jikker! yea it's my bad you are right cute arts should go where cute arts be Concepts & Creations. By the way early Merry Christmas Eva :)

Once again sorry Jikker, I have some issues I think it's I dunno I'll delete the other thread, that's the right thing to do right cuz I dunno

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