So like, are the boards a control group or something?

Laughing Fish··3 votes·2,899 views

I mean think about it. It is clearly costing Riot money to run the boards. Someone is paying for these servers. Someone is paying for the domain name. And yet, despite all the money Riot continues to pour into this place, they also ignore it and don’t care about how it is run?

That seems suspect to me. Which leads me to conclude one of two possibilities. The most "likely" possibilities is that the boards are not long for this world. Riot will see the money being wasted, cut their loses, and move on to a newer better forum (or maybe just give up completely and switch to Reddit). I detailed this possibility here for anyone who wishes to be enlightened on this eminent likelihood.


But there is another possibility. One that sounds weird to be sure, but disturbingly enough has some merit: It is possibly the boards are a “control group” so to speak. While Reddit, twitter, and their own client all are designed around enforcing "rules" and (trying at least) to curb toxicity, the boards took a very different approach. Instead, Riot let’s this place become a “cesspit” so to speak. There is no attempts to curb toxicity here. Quite the contrary, the folks in "charge" are themselves toxic, as they have no riot oversight and no code of conduct they must follow. Riot just selected random members and tossed them in a position of mild "authority", and didn’t bother to see if they were doing anything good with it.

Why would they do this? Why would a billion dollar game company, that is spending money on a "forum", intentionally go with such a blatantly “bad” call? It’s quite simple: They want to preserve a piece of the community in its most “natural” state. When polling Reddit or some other place, they can use the boards as a "control group". They don’t want to interact with people here, lest they upset this "balance".


I know, I know, sounds "paranoid" right? But remember this is Riot games here. The same company that has defended Yasuo and Zoe for years. The same company that thought it was cool to have an executive grope men’s testicles and email his female employees rankings of how likely to sleep with them he is. Riot isn’t always the most "sane" or logical. But there is one thing Riot does love: Money. One look at prestige and eternals will tell you that. So why oh why do they spend so much money keeping the boards alive if they aren’t going to even make the slightest effort to make this place less toxic? Either they are going to wise up and kill this place soon, or there is some ulterior motive.

21 Comments

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

yeah this makes no sense and comes off as pretty ignorant to these boards as a whole

Laughing Fish2 votes

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yeah this makes no sense and comes off as pretty ignorant to these boards as a whole

Hey, it's just a theory. A boards theory.

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

i mean, if you're going to float a theory, wouldn't it more effective to know what you're talking about first?

maybe provide some form of evidence or logic?

Laughing Fish2 votes

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i mean, if you're going to float a theory, wouldn't it more effective to know what you're talking about first?

maybe provide some form of evidence or logic?

It's mostly to highlight how much more likely it is that the boards are going to be shut down completely. Because this is the second most likely explanation, and as you said there isn't much evidence or logic to support it. So the boards being shut down should imo be assumed to be true until proven otherwise

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

lol that's not how proof works man, exactly the opposite, ever heard the phrase,"innocent until proven guilty"?

nothing should be assumed to be true until it actually happens.

Riot let’s this place become a “cesspit” so to speak. There is no attempts to curb toxicity here. Quite the contrary, the folks in "charge" are themselves toxic, as they have no riot oversight and no code of conduct they must follow.

this is the kind of stuff Im talking about. just blatantly ignorant of how the boards work. each subsection is governed by it's own expectations for that section. for example, if you go to the Player Behavior section and start commenting on every thread "haha you deserve your ban jerk!" you will very quickly find yourself timed out from the boards.

Laughing Fish2 votes

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lol that's not how proof works man, exactly the opposite, ever heard the phrase,"innocent until proven guilty"?

nothing should be assumed to be true until it actually happens.

this is the kind of stuff Im talking about. just blatantly ignorant of how the boards work. each subsection is governed by it's own expectations for that section. for example, if you go to the Player Behavior section and start commenting on every thread "haha you deserve your ban jerk!" you will very quickly find yourself timed out from the boards.

Well when the boards get shut down soon, just remember you mocked me for seeing it first

CharDeeMcDenniz3 votes

when did i say it would never happen?

I said making baseless claims with no support or evidence and then calling it fact is stupid, no matter what you are discussing

Laughing Fish2 votes

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when did i say it would never happen?

I said making baseless claims with no support or evidence and then calling it fact is stupid, no matter what you are discussing

I never presented this as fact tho. This is a discussion questioning the likelihood of this theory. It’s not the most likely explanation, but disturbingly enough it is certainly possible still.

CharDeeMcDenniz4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=1NZ7539Q,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-04T16:14:33.876+0000)

I never presented this as fact tho.

what???

Well when the boards get shut down soon


So the boards being shut down should imo be assumed to be true

yeahhhh i think I'm done here, your theory isn't the problem. how you present it is.

goodbye*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

Laughing Fish2 votes

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what???


yeahhhh i think I'm done here, your theory isn't the problem. how you present it is.

goodbye*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

You misunderstand. The boards are clearly shutting down soon. That’s been all but confirmed at this point. This discussion though is to consider the very slim possibility there is another explanation. The boards being used as a control group merely speculation

Modi4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=1NZ7539Q,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-04T15:16:41.200+0000)

It's mostly to highlight how much more likely it is that the boards are going to be shut down completely. Because this is the second most likely explanation, and as you said there isn't much evidence or logic to support it. So the boards being shut down should imo be assumed to be true until proven otherwise

[Your logical fallacy is[(https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof): BURDEN OF PROOF

You are in essence saying "prove me wrong" which is not a logical argument. It doesn't matter whether you end up right or wrong, you are doing the equivalent of me saying "I am an alien from a different galaxy, it is true until proven otherwise". It makes absolutely no sense.

Laughing Fish2 votes

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[Your logical fallacy is[(https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof): BURDEN OF PROOF

You are in essence saying "prove me wrong" which is not a logical argument. It doesn't matter whether you end up right or wrong, you are doing the equivalent of me saying "I am an alien from a different galaxy, it is true until proven otherwise". It makes absolutely no sense.

Yeah I don’t care anymore. This thread stopped being fun awhile ago. Obviously the boards aren’t a control group.

Modi4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=1NZ7539Q,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2020-02-05T04:22:35.356+0000)

Yeah I don’t care anymore. This thread stopped being fun awhile ago. Obviously the boards aren’t a control group.

If you are that jaded, just leave. No one is keeping you here. Now that i read the rest of your rants here, it's obvious you are here just to start something. With the most loving voice: go away.

rawiazam11 votes

no, it's a hypothesis, learn the difference

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

I think the Boards will be around for a long time, even if the community has to stick by it to make it stay.

Laughing Fish1 votes

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I think the Boards will be around for a long time, even if the community has to stick by it to make it stay.

Nah the community has all but abandon it at this point. To call what the boards currently have a "community" is a bit of a stretch. Most of the old communities are either dead or moved to discord

Laughing Fish2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Attysu The Poro,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=1NZ7539Q,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-04T20:27:43.737+0000)

I think the Boards will be around for a long time, even if the community has to stick by it to make it stay.

Besides, you aren't even active in the community, having barely posted anything in months. You seem perfectly cool with leaving the community.

  • Just like you are cool with blaming people who aren’t moderators for not moderating. Because if they "cared" they would find a way to moderate without mod tools (which I did, it's called discord)
  • Just like you are cool spreading complete lies about me coming to the discord repeatedly to get you to “curate what is funny”.
  • Just like you are cool with declaring me a terrible advocate who doesn’t care about M&G, even though I am the only one here who saved the community that used to be there. We just left the boards and moved to discord where I can actually support he community instead of relying on people who don’t care about it. I saved that community. Not you, not riot, not the heralds, not the mods. Me, by working hard and being active for years. But apparently that doesn't count as me caring.
  • Just like you are cool with making me the only specialists not allowed in your server, and then declaring me “petty and small” for thinking maybe that’s personal. And then you folks pretended that nobody knew, even though I mentioned that I felt the specialists needed a server several times and nobody thought to say “hey we have a hidden one, but only you aren’t allowed.”
  • Just like you are cool with other heralds openly admitting to personal vendettas and openly admitting to mocking, then gaslighting and pretend it never happened despite there being screenshots proving it.

You have a long history of being cool with turning your back on the community, I have experienced it first hand many times. Over and over when you are given the opportunity to stand up and defend someone, or turn your back on them, you turn your back. You've turned your back on me more times then I can count. And I'm someone you used to pretend was a friend. So not sure why you are suddenly proud of standing by the community.

Hell the heralds have even directly declared that the moderators don't support the community. Ulan himself said that and insulted me for thinking they do support the community. So which is it? Am I an idiot for thinking you support the community? Or for thinking you don't? Convenient how this stance changes to always make me the bad guy huh

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

I absolutely said nothing to cause this giant paragraph but if that's how you feel that's fine?

Laughing Fish2 votes

Ayy glad to hear that it’s fine

Eryl Fauna1 votes

That would actually explain a lot

Wolfeur1 votes

Someone is paying for these servers. Someone is paying for the domain name.

I mean, it's not like a server for a forum takes a lot of resources. And they don't have to pay for the domain name, they already have leagueoflegends.com; everything before is just configured on their end, no cost in that.

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