Azir hidden nerf/bug in patch 6.5?

ŁiL DEPRESSED··2 votes·13,323 views

In patch 6.4 I've been spamming Fervor Azir and it was the best mastery for him. But with today's patch(6.5) Fervor doesn't seem to work with his W anymore and in patch notes there was nothing about Fervor change. Is it a bug Riot?

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RiotRiot Exgeniar2 votes

Intended, but the note didn't mention it for some reason :\ Sorry! His basic attacks with soldiers are spells!

TheMeta883 votes

On Twitter you intimated that this might pave the way for potential buffs?

Can/would you confirm or deny this?

If more changes are on the way, what's the current mindset/though processes behind them?

ŁiL DEPRESSED1 votes

Like last month i saw a post saying that Azir will get buffs in the future and that he might get his cdr passive back but i only see nerfs and few bugfixes (which are not enough). Will he recieve those buffs or they are canceled? He is the hardest champion ingame and he has like the lowest winrate ingame atm and he really needs those buffs

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I thought frevor also stacks with spells. 2 stacks right?

baayveer1 votes

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I thought frevor also stacks with spells. 2 stacks right?

yeah but i think what they meant it wont proc it unless you use normal aa think of it like item 3115 we use it for its stat its passive is useless to us sadly buts its good cuz you have to use aa cause we always use our mana so quick XD

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

I mean at full build you get an extra 100 magic on autos. not bad for waveclear. most people don't appreciate this but I buy nashors more than most people. for example I buy it on my ap ezreal build. to get that extra ap on the Q.

baayveer1 votes

but ur aa is not optimal in teamfights but as u said ez q is on hit effect azir otherwise ..........

Lord Azır1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Exgeniar,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nEc6E2Tn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-09T21:22:26.650+0000)

Intended, but the note didn't mention it for some reason :\ Sorry! His basic attacks with soldiers are spells!

Were you the one who worked on Azirs autos for this patch? I need to talk about something with you

RiotRiot Exgeniar1 votes

I am probably aware of what you want to tell me.

Lord Azır2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Exgeniar,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nEc6E2Tn,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-03-10T05:20:37.293+0000)

I am probably aware of what you want to tell me.

The fact that soldiers are doing 100% dmg right? Well it seems there have been 2 other bugs introduced that I've noticed as well. While in the lane the long range Q auto bug might be fixed but there's a new one where if I have 2 soldiers up and try to Q them to a champion, the game will just freeze up and not do anything then randomly 2-3 later the soldiers will move after having to spam the Q over and over. The other one is the W. This feels insanely inconsistent to use on towers. Every time I W a tower there's like this weird 0.5 second delay where azir can't do anything and it messes up my autos causing me to auto attack cancel and sometimes freeze up all together.

EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Exgeniar,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nEc6E2Tn,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2016-03-10T05:20:37.293+0000)

I am probably aware of what you want to tell me.

be honest do you just hate azir at this point

The Zan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Exgeniar,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=nEc6E2Tn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-03-09T21:22:26.650+0000)

Intended, but the note didn't mention it for some reason :\ Sorry! His basic attacks with soldiers are spells!

I thought it was a cool interaction. Why would you take it away? It actually made him good!

YKIm Just Saiyan1 votes

i disagree with this alot, while yes his attacks are spells. the fervor playstlye of azir fits Riots vision for azir much closer than any other mastery to date. first the bird has had his Q damage reduced and attack speed added to his w and the knockup on his sheild removed to remove a large portion of his burst (lets be real it was broke though). turning him into a dps mage instead of who relies on constant damage with nashors and rylais in fights and a well timed ult to self peel and more time to dps. sooo why oh why is thunderlords the only acceptable mastery on azir... ya know the mastery for doing burst damage. what kind of balance is it when you can only run 1-2 masterys keystones max on any champion and be effective. thunderlords being the 90% go to on azir, even though he is a dps mage and not really burst anymore (and dont say theres deathfire torch that mastery is useless on all but 2-3 champs). i enjoy azir immensely and i really would prefer a dps mastery that could fit his current playstyle I prefer the dps style of azir but please consider a different dps mage mastery buff deathfire (and nerf champions like brand/rumble a bit to compensate). or leave the fervor interaction with azir, its the most fun change on his so far. thanks for reading, hope you can consider some of the following.

signed a hopeful azir main

EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votes

Thunderlords is pretty nice still anyway

ŁiL DEPRESSED2 votes

It is but for early harras only :( Fervor was decent early and great late... And azir rly needs some buffs

EROTIC RAID BOSS1 votes

It'd be nice but with the auto bug fixes and talon nerfed I'm feeling good about this patch lol

ŁiL DEPRESSED2 votes

His Q also feels wierd in this patch, i had like 2 sec delay on it several times and im not the first 1 who notices. Also i dont think Talon is/was a problem for Azir... problems are lb/fzz/zed

RiotRiot Exgeniar1 votes

I've been seen a lot of Q delay reports, but I can't seem to trigger it myself.

Lauchmelder1 votes

To Keep it in one thread:

I played Azir vs Zed yesterday and noticed that I couldn't use my ult right after he ulted me. It got delayed for exactly the split second he needed to be able to jump back to his ult-shadow.

Will try to reproduce it myself with video evidence but I'm not sure if it's a general bug or just vs Zed. Or if the EU Servers lagged for me xP

YKIm Just Saiyan1 votes

this actually happened to me as well about 10 games ago spammed ult for about .5-1 sec with nothing, then it went off after, possible ping spike in that exact moment but this makes me think maybe not

1 800 MID LANE2 votes

I noticed it when I popped a soldier, immediately auto'd, and then attempted to Q shortly after. I'm assuming it has something to do with the ability queuing thing you guys released.

Hope this helped.

Dawesy3991 votes

Ive been having the problem with the game freezing at times when trying to use q, the last two games on him i thought i had lag but i was at 50d/l speed and consistent 30ping so it was very confusing, will the constant stream of azir bugs ever end? XD

LelouchLamperogu1 votes

When is the bug expected to be fixed

King0fBongo1 votes

sad to see azir get disabled but now i know why I saw the vid from c9 meteos doin 100% damage with all 3 soldiers, i tought u guys finally got rid of the aa bug with the soldiers.

Geiji1 votes

It is intended, but not a bug. However there is a bug that causes him to walk to random spots on the map after auto-attacking with a soldier.

ŁiL DEPRESSED1 votes

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