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Ashe's Ult Arrow

Kit Ballard··49 votes·10,916 views

On a number of occasions I've been hit by Ashe's Ult arrow when graphically I shouldn't have and it's really starting to annoy me to no end. I understand there's a Splash for Slow, but I always end up getting stunned instead when I'm graphically far from the actual arrow itself. Please either update the graphic to match the actual hit box of the arrow, or shrink the hit box to match the arrow's size.

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idoki25 votes
Kit Ballard9 votes

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Meanwhile...

wow lol I've had one where my Jinx ult fired the wrong way.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJQSl4QZtw

Urdnot Entar10 votes

Also a longstanding bug that Riot won't/can't fix. Check it (watch until the end): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ix4m258aoo

EverTokki2 votes

Oh, by the way, if you use Ashe's w after teleporting it seems like the same thign happens. Hate it.

Watch91 votes

Thats a natural bug. Happens with Zed too.

RasCaelestis1 votes

Happened to me with Vel'Koz's ult once. I Teleported top to save a teammate, but they died just as I got there. Figured I'd avenge them. Ulted and watched it go behind me as the enemy ran away with <100 hp. Couldn't cancel my ult in time to get them with another ability. The enemy laughed at me in All chat... >_>

EverTokki2 votes

I know, right? It just annoys me so much as well. As the person under said, if it's a 'natural bug' however a bug anyway, shouldn't Riot be fixing it? :(

Spikeman711 votes

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wow lol I've had one where my Jinx ult fired the wrong way.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zJQSl4QZtw

As a sidenote: How the hell do you have 82 farm in 31min. That's the real problem.

Kit Ballard1 votes

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As a sidenote: How the hell do you have 82 farm in 31min. That's the real problem.

Was pressured out of farm from the enemy support and contestant ganks by the enemy. Not much I could do when that happens

RasCaelestis16 votes

Happened on Sp4zie's stream too. It's really annoying. His teammate said it looked like it missed on his screen, but the fact that two people see different things is not good and should be fixed. No matter what the actual glitch is, Riot really needs to address it.

Video starts a few seconds before the glitch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnBznOuAeL4&t=3m15s

Lorinne2 votes

I was thinking it was related to this bug, as well. Sometimes the shooter sees it hit but it actually didn't, and I guess the inverse is also true (sometimes the victim sees it miss but it actually hits).

Mandaari1 votes

Ugh I knew exactly what this was going to be. One time I ulted through 3 people in a row.

TheHobbits16 votes

There was actually a secret hidden Teemo there every time. Just bad positioning.

Starcall Casey10 votes

I made the same post about jinx's ult hitbox and got insta -10 downvotes. when reporting a bug, downvoting shouldnt be allowed. it's just making it harder for riot to see the bugs.

lDontLiftIcarry3 votes

little broken champ lovers only support changes to things that challenge their broken champions.

lDontLiftIcarry2 votes

prove me wrong then.

Sirsir3 votes

I don't have too

Urdnot Entar6 votes

Yep, just the usual Riot hitbox fails. Sadly, they just insist everything is fine and do nothing.

Silents4297 votes

When have they ever stated the hitboxes are fine.

Urdnot Entar2 votes

Well, it's true they don't communicate about bugs with their community much, but I'm pretty sure I've seen them say as much before. If nothing else, Riot Morgageddon told me in a support ticket conversation a while back:

"I'll poke the team myself, but from having worked with them before, the hitboxes are sized and placed properly (though I can understand your confusion, especially as a player who doesnt' have access to behind-the-scenes info)."

I know, it's pretty ridiculous that we need behind-the-scenes info to figure out what's going on.

EDIT: Now that I think about it though, I guess this doesn't really address the fact that the hitboxes functionality is broken too, but then Riot doesn't like to talk about the many bugs that ruin their game. They really like to pretend it's stable, probably for E-Sports sake (even though fixing it would help there).

Silents4291 votes

Unfortunately I am less inclined to take your word for it that they said that, or that 1 guy from support speaks for the entire Riot balance team.

Urdnot Entar2 votes

Meh, I guess that's fair. For what it's worth, he did say it, and their inaction after years of reports and videos speaks louder anyway. Here's a picture from the conversation, if it helps (complete with some extra images making fun of them :P)

Silents4291 votes

Maybe I misunderstood something but the second picture about Morgana is them improving the hitboxes, I still don't see how that means they think they are fine. Even with the first picture.

Old Man Teeto1 votes

Initial red comment: The HITBOXES are fine.

Patch notes: The VISUALS for the hitboxes were off.

TLDR: No change to hitboxes was done.

Urdnot Entar1 votes

I know when I made that picture it could have been more clear, but the base issue at hand (and what we were talking about) is that the hitboxes and visuals don't match.

DrCyanide6 votes

Your problem might be Jinx, not Ashe.

If I recall right, Jinx's pigtails are part of her hitbox, so even though your body is far away your hair's right on top of the arrow. You might be able to dodge it in the exact same position if you're turned towards the arrow (not positive on that though).

IceKingChernobog12 votes

why would riot make her pig tales part of the hit box?

RasCaelestis6 votes

No idea, but Cassio's tail is not part of hers. Why? I don't know. Reasons.

Biff Manly4 votes

Blitz's hand is similar. No matter how small it looks, its hitbox is the size of 3 Nautilus lined up shoulder to shoulder.

Anidan3 votes

Amumu Q, too. I know that thing is important for him to land, but damn is that hitbox merciful for such a graphically tiny ability. The animation feels like he's shoving a roll of toilet paper at me, but the hitbox suggests 2 rolls of of freaking paper towels.

Ternt4 votes

NIdalee's spear does a similar thing.

nakatani3 votes

I noticed this yesterday when I played her when I completely wiffed some ults but still hit the enemy lol, I hope they patch it soon.

jama6553 votes

On the first picture i would agree with you, you were entirely out of range of that but on the second you clearly took an arrow to the knee

Wankeroo3 votes

I especially hate this effect with Thresh's hook. The thing is no where near me and then magically its trajectory is corrected and it blinks into position connecting to me and pulling me...

This is the fail client prediction code by riot. This season I have also seen many skills go right through a target without affecting them. I have also ulted a player with poppy to see the effect just blink off of them and my skill's on cooldown... No item cleared the effect. Just pure bug.

Cansema3 votes

get a hair cut jinx.. and that should shrink your hit box.. hippy

lDontLiftIcarry2 votes

stfu jinx your rocket does 400+ aoe at rank 1 with bf sword. and has the hitbox of an obese whale.

lmfao talking about hitboxes while playing jinx.. pffffttttttttt

you had to walk around the creep because you didnt micro correctly around the creep. thats how you got hit.

Learn to click closer to your char.

Yw.

Tis a nice day5 votes

Guy A: explains how ability X is obviously broken Guy B: "ya but unrelated object is op, therefore it's all your fault"

Doesn't make ability X any less broken.

ArkenStorm2 votes

yeah, and then there's always when it looks like it went right through you and didn't actually hit you.

Droogzy2 votes

Yeah I have noticed the hitbox is massive on her arrows, definitely needs to be toned down for sure.

Not a jab or an insult, but I just think its funny you bring it up while having Jinx in your second picture who has the same issue with her ultimate XD.

CoolKnightST2 votes

Reducing the arrow width is absolute a bad idea. Did you known Jinx rocket has a larger hitbox than Ashe. Not to mention the projectile speed that is just rediculus low on Ashe. The arrow suppose to be able to be used on other lanes. But it's pretty risky to use when you don't fire it from the base into another lane.

dr lichdeath1 votes

...seems legit but... meh hotbox stuff

Champion Skin1 votes

It seems like it hits the edge of Jinxed squared hitbox Well I think that's what happened at least

Raxxxus1 votes

ashes arrow is bending like nidalee spears, so i dont think they will fix it since they never fixed the magic hits on the nidalee spears either

Ryvaku1 votes

So it's more a visual bug?

KidMalicious1 votes

It would appear that there is something seriously wrong with Ashes arrow. I have seen arrows that are both not hitting when they should and connecting when wide. To the extent that entire teams on both sides stopping mid game to question why some are passing straight through people and others are connecting on a miss. I never noticed this pre-patch and perhaps that was due to a lack of her being played. Many are saying latency, which could be, but would multiple people experience the same illusion? Anyway that's just my sample size of one, dropping by to say you aren't alone. (I very very rarely play Ashe so this has little impact on my personal experience)

EverTokki1 votes

Shhh, it's a secret. The hitbox of her ult is the only reason I play Ashe.

Lugg1 votes

It could have been a lag issue.

runewake21 votes

This is bound to happen, you are actually always ahead of where you actually are since your commands need to be sent to the server and processed. There isn't really a good way around this. It's the same reason you can get behind cover in Call of Duty and then get shot and die.

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