Taric Ultimate Continues through Death [Gameplay]

Goosbee·Jun 13, 2016·1 votes·1,452 views

This may or may not be a bug but I am reporting it as such. I would assume as with most champions with delayed abilities that if you kill them before the effect goes off that the damage/effect is negated.

When Taric ults (for clarity: he had bastioned someone before ulting), killing Taric before the invincibility effect had taken effect still results in both aoe fields still producing an invincibility buff on any nearby units despite focusing him down. I dont know if it is intentional or not. But some champions like Morgana's Ult will not activate the secondary damage and stun effect if she dies or Karthus channeling his ult and then dying interrupts and puts the ability on cooldown. On the opposite end, Vladamir will still do bonus damage and damage amplification on targets affected by his ult whether or not he dies.

So I am not sure if this is a bug that Taric's ult still goes off on both target positions despite his death specifically. I would make the assumption that Riot would give him this very powerful ability with counterplay being backing away or bursting Taric to disable the effect.

3 Comments

HellpyreJun 13, 20162 votes

AFAIK, it's intended to only produce invuln from champions that are alive when the ult finally drops, but it is for sure supposed to go off for the linked player it they outlive Taric.

GoosbeeJun 13, 20161 votes

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AFAIK, it's intended to only produce invuln from champions that are alive when the ult finally drops, but it is for sure supposed to go off for the linked player it they outlive Taric.

Yes, it does produce the invuln for champs alive only. The big reason I brought this up was because of counterplay of quick focusing either the target or taric. To not be able to mitigate Taric's ult by killing him before its activation seems off when there are other champions that you can focus when they activate abilities and it cancels their effects on death Anivia Galio Janna Karthus Kennen Malzahar Maokai Morgana Rammus ...

There are some where its the opposite Annie Azir Gangplank Fizz JarvanIV Kindred Mordekaiser ...

There are many more cases of both types where they persist or they dissipate on death. But usually, high value abilities with strong effects can be canceled or ended with focus on the original caster of the ability. But for an AOE invulnerability where you can literally make your entire team unkillable should have some counterplay in stopping the ability. It does have a warm up time (which is some counterplay) but it is technically not a channel ability so cannot be interrupted or stopped by CC and you can try to burst the target before invincible but you can't necessarily focus two targets within 2.5s who are about to receive invulnerability.

The reason that I find it odd that his ult still goes off on his bastioned target is that ON DEATH, bastion's effect of duplicating spells (and bonus armor transferred) disappears meaning that TECHNICALLY his ult should not be able to still complete on a target without bastion still on it (or at least how I see it) when Taric dies. But Cosmic Radiance is not a normal spell and so doesn't act like other spells. The major guiding theme is that when a champ uses an ult that is a game changer, focusing them to mitigate or disable the effect usually tends to be the trend. When Janna ults, killing her prevents her allies from healing, when Taric ults, killing him **should **prevent his allies from receiving the buff.

I only brought this up, because I dont know if this is an intended effect from Riot or its a quark in how they coded Taric.

HellpyreJun 13, 20161 votes

I don't want to go dig it up, so I may be wrong, but I recall a Red saying that it was intended to work that way during his time on the PBE. His Stun works in much the same way.