Garen has an ingame issue which I think is very unfair and unjustified

Xidea·3/1/2018, 1:17:34 PM·1 votes·580 views

A garen that has built only armor, because he is fed, takes 700 damage from a full Veigar combo (E,W,Q,R) who is also fed and has full magic penetration with a deathcap. Over 800 AP with magic penetration boots and a void staff. The garen was 12/2/0 the Veigar was 8/0/0. This only happens against a Garen. I have played over 1k games on Veigar, and I know my damage capabilities very well. I could one shot anyone on the enemy team, but couldn't even do 800 damage to Garen. He had built no resistances to that type of damage. I think this undermines the point of building correctly against a certain matchup, and that being fed should not have this much impact. Broken? Should garen be aloud to build anything he wants and still be able to win any matchup against any champion with being fed justifying it? I think that because he has no magic resist, the champion should take damage like anyone else. He should have to build the magic resist in order to resist against the magic damage that I am pumping out. I can easily take down a tank built that way, but a Garen specifically has too much resistances if he is fed, even without the magic resist. Normally if a tank doesn't have magic resist, I can just about kill them with one combo, even if they are fed. I can understand if his base stats on magic resist should specifically be higher then other champions, but to nullify damage when all of his magic resist is being penetrated is all around not fair. This issue has only been encountered with the champion Garen.

7 Comments

Shreddermen573/1/2018, 2:19:34 PM3 votes

I am not quite sure which game you are referring to when you talk of playing as an 8/0/0 Veigar against a 12/2/0 Garen, I can't seem to find it so I am going to assume you are talking about your most recent Veigar game against a Garen.

To that I must say, why do you feel the need to lie to try and get your point across, there are 5 lies that I can count and at least 1 exaggeration.

Garen most likely didn't take as much damage as you expected him to due to the passive on his W ability that allows him to gain up to 30 extra resistances from killing enemy minions. (Not to mention that you were actually 3/7/1 with only a Rabadon's, Sorc boots, and a blasting wand for damage 24 minutes into the game.)

And saying Garen only built armor would indeed be correct, but he only had Ninja Tabi to give him +30 armor.

Friendly Ram3/1/2018, 2:24:42 PM1 votes

W gives flat damage reduction. Try not to hit him when he has shields up.

Critmaster Garen3/1/2018, 5:50:30 PM1 votes
  1. his w passive gives him 30 armor and magic resistance

  2. activating w gives him 60% damage reduction and tenacity for 0.75 seconds, and then 30% damage reduction for the remaining duration. chances are he parried most of your burst combo by timing his w, and then dived you while the ability was running

  3. if he had steraks gage, you probably triggered its passive, which absorbed a large amount of your burst. you may have destroyed the shield with the same damage that triggered it, why you may not have noticed it and it just looked like he took little damage

there is no issue with the champion. you probably just didnt take all the factors into consideration.