[Gameplay] Bush Hitbox Analysis (Bot Lane Bushes are Wonky)

Xeigan·10/21/2015, 12:47:52 AM·1 votes·1,522 views

Being a support main, I've learned to ward in a particular fashion, utilizing the edges of bushes to get the most amount of vision possible if the situation allows. After doing this for quite some time, and having a bit of frustration with doing such, I looked into the hitboxes.

I'm aware there's been a thread or two about this already, but I still want to bring this to light. Also, if there's a feature to bump threads, inform me please.

Anyways.

I took it upon myself to investigate and check the hitboxes of all the bushes with wards. Most were fine, but there's a few that are particularly in need of attention. Below are the ones I've pointed out due to them being visually more than halfway in the bush, or in two cases, outside the bush.

Yes, I'm aware of the whole pointer switching to green when in the hitbox as well. This is purely a visual issue.

  • (1): Bot Lane's River Bush I think you'll find this one particularly bad. As you can see, the top-most area of the bush clearly isn't part of the hitbox. It visibly hits the brush, but is not in the hitbox.
  • (2): Blue Side's Bot Lane Bush This one isn't as bad as the one above, but it's still bad. The first ward is in the bush, the second is not. The hitbox is only off on the left side as well. The other sides seem to act appropriately.

The next ones are not as bad, but felt could use the attention as well because why not.

These next two are the opposite: they aren't in the bush visually but are in the hitbox. I had to be fair addressing an issue like this, and felt these were just as important, yet less problematic.

  • (5): Red Side Jungle, Blue Buff Bush This ward is in the bush. I've noticed this one a bit more often than the others. Notice the ward is a little more than halfway outside of the visual bush.
  • (6): Top Lane River Bush To clarify, the green ward is not in the hitbox, the pink ward is in the hitbox.

This last one is debatable in my opinion. While it does look like it's inside, the isometric view kinda makes it not look like it. I'm kinda 50/50 on it.

  • (7): Red Side Jungle, Mid-River entrance Sorry about the poor description, it's an odd location behind blue buff. The base really isn't in the bush. I'm not sure how to feel about it.

And that's all that I found in particular that had issues. I'd love to bring this issue to light as I've noticed it for a while yet never mentioned it.

TL;DR Bot Lane's bushes are wonky and I did research and took pictures, which are above.

Thanks for reading (if you did) my long winded post.

1 Comments

Deep Terror Nami10/21/2015, 12:53:21 AM1 votes

A lot of times that's because grass has a visual height, while gameplay-wise the grass is functionally only 2-dimensional (the game has no up/down Z-axis) so the hitbox is lower than the top of the grass (this applies to champions etc. as well).