Zyra's plants have a blind spot

KafkaBrother·3/31/2015, 2:31:59 AM·54 votes·3,478 views

[gameplay] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwJt-d3U4b0&feature=youtu.be Here is an example of her plant just sitting there for no reason. how to repeat this put plant down have minions walk within range of plant then attack the 1 minion just slightly outside the plant range and your plant sits there and does nothing.

Can we fix this please riot?

23 Comments

Izbiz3/31/2015, 2:23:09 PM17 votes

The plant was obviously trying to last hit as opposed to auto-attacking eveything

Borbland3/31/2015, 2:12:16 PM11 votes

I'm a big Zyra player and I played her since she got released July 2012.

Her plants were smarter before, until they "improved" plants targeting, they became completly stupid.

This is one of the few "bugs" her plants have:

Another well known bug is the fact when you cast a spell on a plant, the plant grows, then has a random delay before it starts attacking. Sometimes it's instantly, sometimes it's 2 long seconds.

Other problem when you grow a plant, they spawn then attack an ennemy champion in range if there is one (That is what is supposed to happen after the plant AI changes), they do one AA, then attack a minions, they don't keep attacking the champion. Anothing thing, it's probably normal but still a pain in the behind, they attack him once, and then the champion goes out of range, and it changes it focus. The champion can go back into plants range, doesn't matter, still attacking that creep unless I go to the dangerous AA range with Zyra and AA the enemy champion so finally my plants continues attacking him... until he goes out of range again....

Please fix Zyra plants, I lose tons of damage because of that

Valhalla Rising3/31/2015, 5:18:19 AM10 votes

indeed i've noticed in the past couple of months that zyras plants don't auto select new target when zyra's basic attacking something out of her plants range.

at least thats what i gather, i dont think it's a blind spot as much as failure to aggro.

either way this seems like a new bug to me and it's actually quite impactful on her in game success.

KafkaBrother3/31/2015, 2:37:16 AM7 votes

for the record this is one of the most annoying things about playing zyra.. Her plants dont attack..

let me explain what happens in the video for those that dont see what i am talking about: plant is summoned .. and it attacks the closest minon i then attack a minion slightly out of range and the plant stops attack the minon within range then the minion moves slightly and out of the blind spot then attacks the close minion again.. then the minion i was attacking comes back in the blind spot and the plant stops attacking then it dies and it attacks the other minion within its range.

this causes her plants to sometimes sit there.

for those that dont understand why this is a big thing.. let me do the math: spitter does : 23 (+6.5/Zyra's level) (+20% AP)

so .. the plant shot 3 shots during its duration but it should have shot 8 each hit does 83 damage on the video

3 shots gave it - 249 damage 8 shots would be - 664 damage

damage missed out because the plant has a blind spot - 415 damage

is +400 damage a big thing? ask yourself how many people walked away with less then 400 health.

Intimidator3/31/2015, 11:15:29 AM5 votes

this isn't a new bug Zyra's plant AI and targeting is so bad it looks like the 12 year old nephew of Ryze coded it.

But sadly Riot doesn't give a fk bug reports like these go mostly unnoticed

junglerboy163/31/2015, 12:27:12 PM4 votes

Looks like it is an aggro bug, where attacking the minion outside of range makes the plant try to attack, but can't because of its range. It then remains aggroed to that minion outside of its range until that unit dies or you attack a different unit within range. Simple fix for Riot would be to adjust aggro range to match actual range.

bulldoggamer3/31/2015, 10:40:45 PM2 votes

Could we maybe get it so that we can use alt to pick a target for the plants? kinda like tibbers. But cooler and actually fair.

UPfreely3/31/2015, 5:45:07 AM2 votes

i wonder if this is why heimer turrets stop attacking

KafkaBrother3/31/2015, 5:40:36 AM2 votes

this isnt a new bug... i have played zyra for 2 years.. this is just an issue never realized or understood till they gave range indicators. the plants have done this regularly.

iLuma3/31/2015, 6:08:24 PM2 votes

I just think her plants either need a little more health or to prioritize champions as targets. I hate when a lane opponent has one health left and I summon a plant next to them, just to have the plant start attacking a minion instead. >< And plus, the plants get wiped so fast, you never really notice them go into frenzy mode during her ult. at least if you ult on top of frenzy plants, give them more health.

Cansema4/4/2015, 12:23:21 AM1 votes

does anyone know if this will be fixed?

CaptnJakSparrow3/31/2015, 3:48:59 PM1 votes

I really do not want release Zyra's plants back. She's pretty much the only champion where in the nerf video Phreak said.

"Zyra is blatantly overpowered."

And then nerfed a crap ton of her kit. @_@.

But to be fair . . . with how her plants worked, getting a pentakill was easier than Kat vs an entire team of no CC that just got caught in a galio ult and an Ez ult.

Cansema3/31/2015, 10:54:22 PM1 votes

interesting... ty for the video explains alot