UNFAIR GAME, OR SIMPLY STUPID PROGRAMMING?

MoreVictory88·Jul 9, 2017·0 votes·741 views

Ok. Ill keep this simple.

I love this game. So does my brother. When we play separately we usually win our games. Sometimes defeat of course.

But when we team up WE ALWAYS LOOOOOOSE. AND LOOSE BIG. Im talking 20-1 deaths.

We have tried different characters but it always ends up the same.

So what can be done about it? I want to play with my brother, but its impossible.

HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE TRIED :

Me and my brother together - GET TOTALLY OWNED Me alone - Usually wins My brother alone - Usually wins Me and my brother + 2 other good guys - GET TOTALLY OWNED Me and my brother IN ANY COMBINATION OR FORM - GET TOTALLY OWNED.

Help please. Why is this. We are both good players, no noobs.

22 Comments

DrCyanideJul 9, 20174 votes

They assume that the two of you together should be able to perform better than the two of you isolated, so they adjust match making accordingly. It's a fair assumption to make, since you can coordinate with your brother and you both know what the other is likely to do.

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

THIS : Seems right. But again, would mean no victories for me and my brother :(

Only solution would be to create brand new accounts.

DrCyanideJul 9, 20171 votes

It wouldn't mean no victories unless the two of aren't working together when you play together.

Edit: It looks like you both are just really new at the game and suck because of that. I'm not holding it against you, since I think the new player experience is pretty terrible at getting players started, but I don't think it's a problem with matchmaking. Matchmaking seems to be doing it's best to match you with equally clueless players.

Both of you: Heal + Teleport isn't the winning combo of Summoner Spells, and Thunderlords Decree isn't the best Mastery for every champion. I recommend looking up some guides on your favorite champions and seeing what other players build on them, because your builds aren't quite as effective as you're thinking they are.

Victory88: Windspeakers Blessing is far better on Soraka than Thunderlords, since it makes her healing even stronger. Buy item 2049 early and use it to give your team more information about where the enemy is. Normally supports run summoner 3 and summoner 4 as their summoner spells, letting them reduce the damage of enemies, get into situations to save allies, and out of dangerous situations.

MoreVictory88: Use item 3340 . It's free, you've got one every game, but you've got several recent games where you haven't placing a single ward. That's frankly unacceptable for anyone past level 10. In general you want summoner 4 as a Summoner Spell every game, largely for the added safety it gives you. Who cares about getting to a lane a little faster when you can avoid dying or get more kills with Flash.

BerylCrabJul 9, 20174 votes

One of you isn't as good as you think you are. Or both of you. You need to analyze where you are going wrong in your games, and chances are you are being too aggressive in one way or another.

archerno1Jul 9, 20173 votes

Ok,i checked your match history and u wont like the answer. Reason why you win when u play alone and lose when u play with your brother, is because when u are alone your team have only 1 bad player, while when u play with brother, your team have 2 bad players and its much harder to carry

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

Would have been true, but sometimes I CARRY my team. So not true.

La SporkJul 9, 20172 votes

This thread is so cute and innocent and it gave me a good laugh. Pretty sure the OP is a little kid, and I don't mean to be condescending in saying that...

archerno1Jul 9, 20171 votes

Which ranks are you and your brother? Also you built item 3085 as first item on Jinx and item 3089 as first item on mages, you might wanna reconsider that last line in your thread

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

Im 17 and him 37 i think.

Rand0mH3r0XJul 9, 20174 votes

My gosh, he said ranks not age.

Victory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

Lol, hover over your friend on your friendslist, the little number top left.

Rand0mH3r0XJul 9, 20173 votes

That's mastery points.

Victory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

I can confirm this, I thought it might be an algorithm to prevent smurf or maybe paid carry. Not sure. But we are about equally good. We just cannot win at all when we play together. We used to win when we played together like a month ago though. But suddenly just... nop.

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Which ranks are you and your brother?

both 30. and 17 and 37

AmetDeCryptJul 9, 20171 votes

may just be the difference in ranks throwing the team's mmr off and pitting people against opponents they just can't handle.

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

THIS : If its true, then it is just terrible

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

Ok, then we are back to the issue. Im doing the same thing alone and its possible to win. I buy the same stuff when I play alone. So we can rule out that then.

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

Ok, so this is me alone then :

https://youtu.be/VZAzerjqJJI

DrCyanideJul 9, 20171 votes

If not for the name tags, I would have thought you were playing Beginner Bots. I wouldn't call that an example of good play.

WeatheredJul 9, 20171 votes

How would programming at all play a role in this.

MoreVictory88Jul 9, 20171 votes

THIS : Really, algorithm ? It knows when Im playing together with my brother, hence place us in a game where we not belong, with much much better players. The same algorithm places me alone in games where I CARRY the team. Bust.

TheLastShadow45Jul 9, 20171 votes

And this is a bug how?

ModiJul 10, 20171 votes

There is a third possibility: your play styles are not compatible. It could be that you just don't mesh well as a team. It even happens at the pro levels, look at TSM when they had YellOwStaR. Yellow was unarguably one of the best supports in the world at that time, but he just didn't fit with the rest of TSM (for whatever reason).