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Character Abilities Locking out; Let's pool our efforts

Rynmaru·10/29/2014, 8:14:23 AM·3 votes·1,856 views

(Just got done writing this, and seen how long it was. I know it's a little lengthy, but I hope it can help League of legends become better!)

I recently had a game in which an ability locked out, and I posted it in the forums in hopes that I would be able to help the Riot team find the cause. After a few days, and no word in that particular thread, I decided to look through some of the other posts that might contain information on the same thing. What I found was that, as expected, I was not the only person to have a similar issue; An ability locking out during a game and, even after the CD resets, not being able to use that ability again during the game (or at least until you Disconnect and then Reconnect).

I have an idea that I hope takes hold in the community, and helps Riot fix these issues in a timely manner and keeps league from becoming too glitchy for some to play. What I suggest is this: We make a thread (This one) and pool all the information we can into it while not cluttering the forums with multiple threads that may or may not be over looked

What should you post when giving an issue report?:

  • Summoner Name: I'm not POSITIVE on this, but I think it would be in riots best interest to be able to look at a game played and see some of the things going on. This could help them narrow down the issue at hand and hopefully see some the code running in the background that may cause these things to happen.

  • Time of the Issue: If Riot can look at games, it would be helpful to know when it happened. Even if they can't look at every individual game, they should be able to look at some of the issues being had in some manner, so try to include a date and the approximate time of day it is (Maybe even time zone) along with how far into the game you are. I.E: October 25th, 2014 7:35 PM est / 23:21 into the game

  • Champion Effected: If the list is only 4-5 champions out of the over 100, that would narrow down the issue a lot. Also try to include any champions involved that may have caused the issue, which is explained below.

  • What you believe to be the issue: most of what I have seen is that the issue occurs when the Champion effected is CC'ed by another champion. For instance;

       I played a game recently as Sion, and my Q ability stopped working twice. I believe that the first time I was affected was by Ahri's Charm ability (Which was cast on me 2-3 seconds after I had flashed towards her in mid lane) and while I was Charging my Q. So the order was: Sion Flashed > Sion Started charging Q > Ahri charmed Sion, all in the course of 2-3 seconds.  After I noticed my Q had stopped working (The issue was the last time I had used my Q, and then I noticed it about 1-2 minutes later that it did not work) I disconnected and then reconnected, that fixed the issue temporarily.

    The second time I believe i was effected by Ahri's charm again, but could have also been Thresh's Q or E abilities as well, or one of those along with Ahri's charm. I was going to Disconnect and then Reconnect, but then we lost.

What else can you do to help this issue be solved? I know that some of you reading this, or maybe even most of you reading this, are not beta testers, and no one is asking you to be, but perhaps you have some free time, and want to help? It's pretty easy to do, simply try to replicate the issue as best you can. Go into a custom with a few friends, and try to do the same actions in the same general locations of the map a few times. If you want to get a little crazy, maybe even try the same items sets and such, because maybe one of the on-hit effects from an item was partially to blame for the occurrence.

8 Comments

LOlonnais10/29/2014, 4:57:18 PM1 votes

Hey Rynmaru,

I'm totally with you on compiling our efforts into one thread.

I've been experiencing the same thing on occasion, and just heard back from Riot. Here's a portion of what I sent them that explains it...

"Today, the 28th of October around 1:30AM, while playing Sion on Hexakill, after about half of the game, my "q" and "r" simply stopped working. The funny thing is that I could still type "q" and "r," so it wasn't a keyboard issue, and when I died and pressed "q" or "r" the text would appear informing me, "You can't cast that ability right now." So, the key strokes must've also been registering in the game. There didn't appear to be any lag that I could notice, and the "w" and "e" key abilities worked just as normal.

I've had a similar problem with Warwick on Summoner's Rift where his "q" or "w" wouldn't activate, but until today I had written it off as an occasional keyboard malfunction or a game lag issue, as a lot of times this would happen during larger teamfights that are a much larger drain on my computer's processing speed and the server client. Then again, I also recall several times facing an opponent one on one where I was frantically pressing "w" or "q" to try and survive the fight, and it simply wasn't working. Occasionally, out of the great, blue yonder, it would work again once, then stop altogether again."

So far, I haven't been able to figure out exactly what triggers this, and in the response I got from Riot, they've been unable to replicate it as well. I think you might be on to something with it being triggered by an interrupting ability from another player, but we'll have to pay more attention to exactly when it happens to help them figure it out. We may also try having independent matches solely to try and replicate the effect once we have a few ideas of what may be causing it.

HolographicOne10/29/2014, 9:06:37 PM1 votes

Warwick I can confirm the Warwick Q/W bug among others-

Vi Vi's E not hitting all minions in cone, or sometimes not hitting any but the first creep. Also, if you die whilst having Q charged, the ability can be locked out when you respawn. This was my case.

Azir Azir's Q not working on the first W cast quite often, sometimes it is delayed cast.

Yasuo I've had issues with Yasuo not being able to proc my ult on the DASH-Q (where the Q becomes a circle instead of a line). These are the only issues I've experienced lately- it's not to say there isn't more because I get tend to stick with the old reliable champs when stuff like this is going down.

EDIT:

Leblanc I played Leblanc yesterday with smartcast enabled and often my 2nd W wouldn't trigger, or during a QWREW one or more spells would not proc. This was the first time I had played her in a month or so, but I recall hearing about a patch or fix that delayed a champ's (a couple champs?) cast time due to some unintentional outcomes, and now a lot of these bugs have seemingly come out SINCE that time. All except WW's which have been having issues for a while now.

naitohikari10/29/2014, 11:42:59 PM1 votes

I can confirm that the Vi Q bug (and the other locked-up abilities similar to it, like Warwick's) happens when you die before the second cast. That and the E bug are the reasons I don't play my main bae anymore...

However, the Q bug has, on occasion, seemed to happen at random as well. The skill won't lock up from the problem above half the time, so it's definitely a possible trigger but it isn't consistent. Other times I could be walking around in lane, using Q to get me closer to the turrets faster, and a few seconds later while I'm escaping (or at least try to) it locks up without warning.

One workaround I've found is to put it on quick-cast > quick-cast it (there's a slight delay between the skill activation and when she actually performs it) > take it off quick-cast, and use as normal. It's worked for me every time the glitch happens, and it might work for the other champs too (Sion's Q and R, Varus's Q, Warwick's Q and R).

I have sent a ticket to Riot the second time it happened (about a month back) but while they did acknowledge the issue, they said there wasn't a time window for when they'd be fixing the Q bug.

Anyways just my two cents, I haven't played her lately so I don't know if the bug is still very much active or otherwise. I can't give an exact timeline or reproduction steps for the glitch and I apologize, but the next time I pick her up I might just record my games.

Rynmaru10/30/2014, 5:45:21 AM1 votes

I just came on to look for any responses, and finding 4 already on here makes my day! I'm glad you guys are willing to take the time to put some effort into this, and if this takes hold, hopefully Riot will see it as a possible solution to bugs in the future as well. Keep up the good work guys, and feel free to direct anyone you want here to broaden the base. It might just be a seed now, but if we give it time, it can grow into something amazing! any time I am on, and if anyone wants to play, my Summoner name is Rynmaru (Obviously) and though I'm not ranked and kind of suck at the game, we can start customs and try different approaches to finding the reasons to the bugs.

buttstripe1/8/2015, 6:32:05 AM1 votes

happened to my roommate as sion, almost broke his keyboard in a fit of rage

edit: it was against a blitz and happened after getting pulled.