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Tired of Afks in 4 out 5 games, need smurf

Lyless··1 votes·1,037 views

Need smurf to carry me out Bronze.

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PDE5 Inhib10 votes

You'll get demoted right back into it :D

Lyless2 votes

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You'll get demoted right back into it :D

Is that positive talk you were preaching? Oh yea..... it must be.

PDE5 Inhib3 votes

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Is that positive talk you were preaching? Oh yea..... it must be.

I speak the truth :)

Lyless1 votes

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I speak the truth :)

If you aren't going to help, please leave.

Lyless1 votes

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I speak the truth :)

And you actively rooting against me.

PDE5 Inhib6 votes

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Miror B3 votes

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If this post doesn't get a massive amount of upvotes, I will be thoroughly surprised.

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

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If this post doesn't get a massive amount of upvotes, I will be thoroughly surprised.

It won't. There isn't even going to be a "massive" amount of people that even view his thread lmfao.

Lyless1 votes

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It won't. There isn't even going to be a "massive" amount of people that even view his thread lmfao.

Honestly I can see why you guys aren't a higher rank than what you are. You both are jerks and just trolls. So glad, not to call you my friends.

Lyless1 votes

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If this post doesn't get a massive amount of upvotes, I will be thoroughly surprised.

Oh it's the quitter. How are you today quitter!?!?!

Lyless1 votes

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You offered me advice without listening to the problem. I can't use advice like that. I will take any advice that helps my problem. But I am also playing the games. And I know more about what happens in them than you. So, if you are so evil to root against someone who wants to improve, but simply cannot. Or someone who has used a lot of the advice and it's failed because it not tailored to my problem be my guess. But you are now one of those trolls, just so you know.

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

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Lyless1 votes

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I disagree. I just need a little help.

xShadowBlade2 votes

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someone who wants to improve, but simply cannot.

What the fuck did I just read. what. the. FUCK. did I. just. read. Are you serious bud? There is no can or can't improve, you either do or dont. And if you're in bronze youre obviously not improving. I'm willing to bet (without looking at your other threads) that these people gave you good advice and you ignore it because you "know" it or you think its not true. You want out of bronze? heres the secret: everything you know is wrong, all of it. Stop convincing yourself otherwise because you get a win streak every now and then.

So let me TRY to help you, here goes:

  1. Sejuani games, why do you have windspeaker's key stone? she has no shields and no heals, you are literally wasting your keystone, either go for a more tanky build with strength of the ages or take bond of stone to keep your teammates alive and have some more damage protection.
  2. You have no flash on some of your games... If pros take flash because they know they arent perfect and mess up, what makes you think youre a special snowflake? you go 0/6, 0/5, 1/3 or wash up with 10+ deaths because you have no flash and get caught or baited. Take. Flash.
  3. If youre supporting with sejuani, sighstone is always your first buy. always. followed by boots and an aegis, no you do not build anything except SS into aegis into swifty boots. every. game.
  4. So how do you pick what 2nd summoner to take as support? easy, do they have somebody that does a lot of damage or crits? yi, trynd, hyper carry (i.e kogmaw, tristana), do they have somebody that deals burst damage who you need to exhaust before their combo so your carry has a chance of surviving? (LeBlanc, Syndra, Ryze, etc.) Take exhaust for sure. Ignite is only viable if they have none of the above AND they have somebody like mundo, darius, Irelia, Warwick, etc. who heals alot and you need to make sure to ignite them during team fights to stop them from being unkillable. All other times take exhaust.
  5. Sejuani can work as support but if you want results play "meta" tanky supports, Alistar, Braum, Nautilus, Blitzcrank if youre decent at hooks. Hell even malphite might work because its harder to dodge his engage.
  6. Again keystones, you take fervor of battle on ashe... why? you have no Attack Speed boosts, Fervor gets taken on people like Ezreal whose passive gives him a boost to AS, or kogmaw who has his W, on AA based champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Tristana, etc. Thunderlords is almost always flat out better. And on tank nocturne im not sure about taking the stormraiders, you know you have 2.5s to deal 30% MAXIMUM hp to proc it right? so unless you hit a 1.5k HP squishy ADC/Mid laner with everything you have and maybe even hydra proc you MIGHT, might barely proc it. Im not a jungler though so i cant say what other keystone might be better. Try Grasp or maybe strenght of the ages if youre going tank.

This is without even getting into decision making which is non-existant in bronze and silver, and minimal in gold, only starts to appear in mid plat. And team comps which im sure you have no clue how to pick into/around. Then Item choices i'd really have to look at build orders and team comps on both sides.

In bronze its not the game, its the player. And youre a player that knows little to nothing.

Lyless1 votes

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What the fuck did I just read. what. the. FUCK. did I. just. read. Are you serious bud? There is no can or can't improve, you either do or dont. And if you're in bronze youre obviously not improving. I'm willing to bet (without looking at your other threads) that these people gave you good advice and you ignore it because you "know" it or you think its not true. You want out of bronze? heres the secret: everything you know is wrong, all of it. Stop convincing yourself otherwise because you get a win streak every now and then.

So let me TRY to help you, here goes:

  1. Sejuani games, why do you have windspeaker's key stone? she has no shields and no heals, you are literally wasting your keystone, either go for a more tanky build with strength of the ages or take bond of stone to keep your teammates alive and have some more damage protection.
  2. You have no flash on some of your games... If pros take flash because they know they arent perfect and mess up, what makes you think youre a special snowflake? you go 0/6, 0/5, 1/3 or wash up with 10+ deaths because you have no flash and get caught or baited. Take. Flash.
  3. If youre supporting with sejuani, sighstone is always your first buy. always. followed by boots and an aegis, no you do not build anything except SS into aegis into swifty boots. every. game.
  4. So how do you pick what 2nd summoner to take as support? easy, do they have somebody that does a lot of damage or crits? yi, trynd, hyper carry (i.e kogmaw, tristana), do they have somebody that deals burst damage who you need to exhaust before their combo so your carry has a chance of surviving? (LeBlanc, Syndra, Ryze, etc.) Take exhaust for sure. Ignite is only viable if they have none of the above AND they have somebody like mundo, darius, Irelia, Warwick, etc. who heals alot and you need to make sure to ignite them during team fights to stop them from being unkillable. All other times take exhaust.
  5. Sejuani can work as support but if you want results play "meta" tanky supports, Alistar, Braum, Nautilus, Blitzcrank if youre decent at hooks. Hell even malphite might work because its harder to dodge his engage.
  6. Again keystones, you take fervor of battle on ashe... why? you have no Attack Speed boosts, Fervor gets taken on people like Ezreal whose passive gives him a boost to AS, or kogmaw who has his W, on AA based champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Tristana, etc. Thunderlords is almost always flat out better. And on tank nocturne im not sure about taking the stormraiders, you know you have 2.5s to deal 30% MAXIMUM hp to proc it right? so unless you hit a 1.5k HP squishy ADC/Mid laner with everything you have and maybe even hydra proc you MIGHT, might barely proc it. Im not a jungler though so i cant say what other keystone might be better. Try Grasp or maybe strenght of the ages if youre going tank.

This is without even getting into decision making which is non-existant in bronze and silver, and minimal in gold, only starts to appear in mid plat. And team comps which im sure you have no clue how to pick into/around. Then Item choices i'd really have to look at build orders and team comps on both sides.

In bronze its not the game, its the player. And youre a player that knows little to nothing.

I almost never use Ashe.

I am not using Sej anymore. So, most of this isn't an issue.

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

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What the fuck did I just read. what. the. FUCK. did I. just. read. Are you serious bud? There is no can or can't improve, you either do or dont. And if you're in bronze youre obviously not improving. I'm willing to bet (without looking at your other threads) that these people gave you good advice and you ignore it because you "know" it or you think its not true. You want out of bronze? heres the secret: everything you know is wrong, all of it. Stop convincing yourself otherwise because you get a win streak every now and then.

So let me TRY to help you, here goes:

  1. Sejuani games, why do you have windspeaker's key stone? she has no shields and no heals, you are literally wasting your keystone, either go for a more tanky build with strength of the ages or take bond of stone to keep your teammates alive and have some more damage protection.
  2. You have no flash on some of your games... If pros take flash because they know they arent perfect and mess up, what makes you think youre a special snowflake? you go 0/6, 0/5, 1/3 or wash up with 10+ deaths because you have no flash and get caught or baited. Take. Flash.
  3. If youre supporting with sejuani, sighstone is always your first buy. always. followed by boots and an aegis, no you do not build anything except SS into aegis into swifty boots. every. game.
  4. So how do you pick what 2nd summoner to take as support? easy, do they have somebody that does a lot of damage or crits? yi, trynd, hyper carry (i.e kogmaw, tristana), do they have somebody that deals burst damage who you need to exhaust before their combo so your carry has a chance of surviving? (LeBlanc, Syndra, Ryze, etc.) Take exhaust for sure. Ignite is only viable if they have none of the above AND they have somebody like mundo, darius, Irelia, Warwick, etc. who heals alot and you need to make sure to ignite them during team fights to stop them from being unkillable. All other times take exhaust.
  5. Sejuani can work as support but if you want results play "meta" tanky supports, Alistar, Braum, Nautilus, Blitzcrank if youre decent at hooks. Hell even malphite might work because its harder to dodge his engage.
  6. Again keystones, you take fervor of battle on ashe... why? you have no Attack Speed boosts, Fervor gets taken on people like Ezreal whose passive gives him a boost to AS, or kogmaw who has his W, on AA based champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Tristana, etc. Thunderlords is almost always flat out better. And on tank nocturne im not sure about taking the stormraiders, you know you have 2.5s to deal 30% MAXIMUM hp to proc it right? so unless you hit a 1.5k HP squishy ADC/Mid laner with everything you have and maybe even hydra proc you MIGHT, might barely proc it. Im not a jungler though so i cant say what other keystone might be better. Try Grasp or maybe strenght of the ages if youre going tank.

This is without even getting into decision making which is non-existant in bronze and silver, and minimal in gold, only starts to appear in mid plat. And team comps which im sure you have no clue how to pick into/around. Then Item choices i'd really have to look at build orders and team comps on both sides.

In bronze its not the game, its the player. And youre a player that knows little to nothing.

I take fevor on Cait lol.

1st Movement2 votes

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What the fuck did I just read. what. the. FUCK. did I. just. read. Are you serious bud? There is no can or can't improve, you either do or dont. And if you're in bronze youre obviously not improving. I'm willing to bet (without looking at your other threads) that these people gave you good advice and you ignore it because you "know" it or you think its not true. You want out of bronze? heres the secret: everything you know is wrong, all of it. Stop convincing yourself otherwise because you get a win streak every now and then.

So let me TRY to help you, here goes:

  1. Sejuani games, why do you have windspeaker's key stone? she has no shields and no heals, you are literally wasting your keystone, either go for a more tanky build with strength of the ages or take bond of stone to keep your teammates alive and have some more damage protection.
  2. You have no flash on some of your games... If pros take flash because they know they arent perfect and mess up, what makes you think youre a special snowflake? you go 0/6, 0/5, 1/3 or wash up with 10+ deaths because you have no flash and get caught or baited. Take. Flash.
  3. If youre supporting with sejuani, sighstone is always your first buy. always. followed by boots and an aegis, no you do not build anything except SS into aegis into swifty boots. every. game.
  4. So how do you pick what 2nd summoner to take as support? easy, do they have somebody that does a lot of damage or crits? yi, trynd, hyper carry (i.e kogmaw, tristana), do they have somebody that deals burst damage who you need to exhaust before their combo so your carry has a chance of surviving? (LeBlanc, Syndra, Ryze, etc.) Take exhaust for sure. Ignite is only viable if they have none of the above AND they have somebody like mundo, darius, Irelia, Warwick, etc. who heals alot and you need to make sure to ignite them during team fights to stop them from being unkillable. All other times take exhaust.
  5. Sejuani can work as support but if you want results play "meta" tanky supports, Alistar, Braum, Nautilus, Blitzcrank if youre decent at hooks. Hell even malphite might work because its harder to dodge his engage.
  6. Again keystones, you take fervor of battle on ashe... why? you have no Attack Speed boosts, Fervor gets taken on people like Ezreal whose passive gives him a boost to AS, or kogmaw who has his W, on AA based champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Tristana, etc. Thunderlords is almost always flat out better. And on tank nocturne im not sure about taking the stormraiders, you know you have 2.5s to deal 30% MAXIMUM hp to proc it right? so unless you hit a 1.5k HP squishy ADC/Mid laner with everything you have and maybe even hydra proc you MIGHT, might barely proc it. Im not a jungler though so i cant say what other keystone might be better. Try Grasp or maybe strenght of the ages if youre going tank.

This is without even getting into decision making which is non-existant in bronze and silver, and minimal in gold, only starts to appear in mid plat. And team comps which im sure you have no clue how to pick into/around. Then Item choices i'd really have to look at build orders and team comps on both sides.

In bronze its not the game, its the player. And youre a player that knows little to nothing.

I can vouch for you This guy literally spams these forums asking for help and ignores all of it

AG Innocent1 votes

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What the fuck did I just read. what. the. FUCK. did I. just. read. Are you serious bud? There is no can or can't improve, you either do or dont. And if you're in bronze youre obviously not improving. I'm willing to bet (without looking at your other threads) that these people gave you good advice and you ignore it because you "know" it or you think its not true. You want out of bronze? heres the secret: everything you know is wrong, all of it. Stop convincing yourself otherwise because you get a win streak every now and then.

So let me TRY to help you, here goes:

  1. Sejuani games, why do you have windspeaker's key stone? she has no shields and no heals, you are literally wasting your keystone, either go for a more tanky build with strength of the ages or take bond of stone to keep your teammates alive and have some more damage protection.
  2. You have no flash on some of your games... If pros take flash because they know they arent perfect and mess up, what makes you think youre a special snowflake? you go 0/6, 0/5, 1/3 or wash up with 10+ deaths because you have no flash and get caught or baited. Take. Flash.
  3. If youre supporting with sejuani, sighstone is always your first buy. always. followed by boots and an aegis, no you do not build anything except SS into aegis into swifty boots. every. game.
  4. So how do you pick what 2nd summoner to take as support? easy, do they have somebody that does a lot of damage or crits? yi, trynd, hyper carry (i.e kogmaw, tristana), do they have somebody that deals burst damage who you need to exhaust before their combo so your carry has a chance of surviving? (LeBlanc, Syndra, Ryze, etc.) Take exhaust for sure. Ignite is only viable if they have none of the above AND they have somebody like mundo, darius, Irelia, Warwick, etc. who heals alot and you need to make sure to ignite them during team fights to stop them from being unkillable. All other times take exhaust.
  5. Sejuani can work as support but if you want results play "meta" tanky supports, Alistar, Braum, Nautilus, Blitzcrank if youre decent at hooks. Hell even malphite might work because its harder to dodge his engage.
  6. Again keystones, you take fervor of battle on ashe... why? you have no Attack Speed boosts, Fervor gets taken on people like Ezreal whose passive gives him a boost to AS, or kogmaw who has his W, on AA based champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Tristana, etc. Thunderlords is almost always flat out better. And on tank nocturne im not sure about taking the stormraiders, you know you have 2.5s to deal 30% MAXIMUM hp to proc it right? so unless you hit a 1.5k HP squishy ADC/Mid laner with everything you have and maybe even hydra proc you MIGHT, might barely proc it. Im not a jungler though so i cant say what other keystone might be better. Try Grasp or maybe strenght of the ages if youre going tank.

This is without even getting into decision making which is non-existant in bronze and silver, and minimal in gold, only starts to appear in mid plat. And team comps which im sure you have no clue how to pick into/around. Then Item choices i'd really have to look at build orders and team comps on both sides.

In bronze its not the game, its the player. And youre a player that knows little to nothing.

Great advice for this bronzie

Sukishoo1 votes

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You'll get demoted right back into it :D

Nah, just depends on how truly bad you are. If someone was bronze, as he is, and was helped to get to S5 at least, then you can't be demoted unless you loss enough games at 0LP that you are still playing bronze level.

oneshot j4 mid3 votes

It's simply not your team. The other people on this thread are right.

How do you think silver players are silver? How are gold players gold? How are platinum players plat? Do you really, honestly believe they just lucked out with good teams? If so, you're really off. If you honestly think your team determines your elo then the reason you're Bronze 5 is very apparent.

You even said it yourself - "Need smurf to carry me out Bronze." Clearly you believe it's possible to carry bronze elo if you're asking a smurf to do it. You're in Bronze 5 with a 45% winrate because you belong in Bronze 5. If you can't accept that, you won't look for ways to improve because you truly believe that you're not the problem, but your team is. And guess what? You can't control your team, but you can control your own gameplay.

My advice:

  • Watch some educational League of Legends YouTubers. You will learn a lot very quickly.
  • Don't play support in low elo. As a support, you complement your team by making plays, and you give them the gold. If you don't have competent players on your team, how do you expect to win if they have all the gold? You can't solo push as a support, you can't solo kill as most supports, and you can't single-handedly win a teamfight as most supports without a somewhat competent team. Play a carry champion in a carry role.
  • Accept the undeniable, factual reality that if you have a 50% winrate, you belong in your rank. If it's higher, than 50%, good for you, you're in the process of climbing, and after grinding out enough games you will hit the rank you deserve (and your winrate will level out). If it's lower, you're in the process of dropping, and deserve a lower rank. Statistically, if you're not an AFKer/troll/baddie, then only 4 players on your team could possibly be AFKers/trolls/baddies, while 5 players on the enemy team could be AFKers/trolls/baddies. This puts you at a factual advantage, so after enough ranked games, you will climb if you're truly good.
Lyless1 votes

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It's simply not your team. The other people on this thread are right.

How do you think silver players are silver? How are gold players gold? How are platinum players plat? Do you really, honestly believe they just lucked out with good teams? If so, you're really off. If you honestly think your team determines your elo then the reason you're Bronze 5 is very apparent.

You even said it yourself - "Need smurf to carry me out Bronze." Clearly you believe it's possible to carry bronze elo if you're asking a smurf to do it. You're in Bronze 5 with a 45% winrate because you belong in Bronze 5. If you can't accept that, you won't look for ways to improve because you truly believe that you're not the problem, but your team is. And guess what? You can't control your team, but you can control your own gameplay.

My advice:

  • Watch some educational League of Legends YouTubers. You will learn a lot very quickly.
  • Don't play support in low elo. As a support, you complement your team by making plays, and you give them the gold. If you don't have competent players on your team, how do you expect to win if they have all the gold? You can't solo push as a support, you can't solo kill as most supports, and you can't single-handedly win a teamfight as most supports without a somewhat competent team. Play a carry champion in a carry role.
  • Accept the undeniable, factual reality that if you have a 50% winrate, you belong in your rank. If it's higher, than 50%, good for you, you're in the process of climbing, and after grinding out enough games you will hit the rank you deserve (and your winrate will level out). If it's lower, you're in the process of dropping, and deserve a lower rank. Statistically, if you're not an AFKer/troll/baddie, then only 4 players on your team could possibly be AFKers/trolls/baddies, while 5 players on the enemy team could be AFKers/trolls/baddies. This puts you at a factual advantage, so after enough ranked games, you will climb if you're truly good.

Once again, where did I not say I was B5? Who said I didn't accept this? You guys make points I don't dispute. ANd that's your problem for bringing it up, not mine.

I can't control my team play but if someone feeds and I can't kill them, then it will affect my play. That's what you forgot to say.

Let's see...

Those videos don't help. I have tried that before. It doesn't work for me.

I am not playing support as of today.

Who said I don't accept my situation? I believe I made a post about it.

Yesterday I had 4 afks in my games. I have no advantage in any game. Once again you wouldn't know what kind advantage I have if you don't view my games. So, don't speak on it.

oneshot j4 mid2 votes

It's very obvious that you don't truly accept that you're Bronze 5 because of the way you respond to criticism. I didn't even say anything that should provoke you in my first post, yet you got all defensive because you can't accept facts.

Those videos work for everyone, you're just really negative and haven't put enough effort into absorbing the content or looking for a YouTuber who works for you. If you understood anything about cognition, you'd realize this.

You do have a statistical advantage, if you truly don't AFK/feed. I explained this in the post you just replied to. This isn't debatable; it's based on factual, statistical information. Just because you had 4 AFKs in one day doesn't mean you have no advantage, you're just negative. It's like the good old "I've tried everything" excuse. You've only scratched the surface, and now you want to make some generalized assumption that you have no advantage, without digging any deeper.

It's very clear that you deserve to be in Bronze 5. Watching your Warwick game right now and there's a 6/1 (and counting) Varus, yet you haven't yet ganked bottom. You have an incredibly low APM, like you literally click once every 4 seconds or so. You wander around the jungle confused and have no idea where to go next, so you change direction over and over again and miss exp+cs as a result. I could go over all the other countless mistakes.

So if you accept your situation, why do you want to be carried out of Bronze 5? If you're truly B5, like someone else said, you're just going to drop back down as soon as you start soloqing again. There's no such thing as elo hell, and if you don't deserve a rank, then why would you think you're worthy to be carried to it?

Lyless1 votes

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It's very obvious that you don't truly accept that you're Bronze 5 because of the way you respond to criticism. I didn't even say anything that should provoke you in my first post, yet you got all defensive because you can't accept facts.

Those videos work for everyone, you're just really negative and haven't put enough effort into absorbing the content or looking for a YouTuber who works for you. If you understood anything about cognition, you'd realize this.

You do have a statistical advantage, if you truly don't AFK/feed. I explained this in the post you just replied to. This isn't debatable; it's based on factual, statistical information. Just because you had 4 AFKs in one day doesn't mean you have no advantage, you're just negative. It's like the good old "I've tried everything" excuse. You've only scratched the surface, and now you want to make some generalized assumption that you have no advantage, without digging any deeper.

It's very clear that you deserve to be in Bronze 5. Watching your Warwick game right now and there's a 6/1 (and counting) Varus, yet you haven't yet ganked bottom. You have an incredibly low APM, like you literally click once every 4 seconds or so. You wander around the jungle confused and have no idea where to go next, so you change direction over and over again and miss exp+cs as a result. I could go over all the other countless mistakes.

So if you accept your situation, why do you want to be carried out of Bronze 5? If you're truly B5, like someone else said, you're just going to drop back down as soon as you start soloqing again. There's no such thing as elo hell, and if you don't deserve a rank, then why would you think you're worthy to be carried to it?

Oh wow. You are going to tell me what I am thinking? You got some nerve. If I say accept it, then take it as truth and move on.

Those videos do not work for me, nothing works for everyone. That's a lie.

Once again if I am going to over 50% of my games with a afk at some point then you I am going in with a disadvantage. If I have teams that do not work together the same applies. Once again do some research rather than just guess and run your mouth. If I was telling you what you do wrong. I would at least view a game first, but you don't feel that you need to. And that's because you think you are right all the time!

Once again, I never said I didn't belong in B5 lately. You need to get off the same talking point,

You aren't here to help, you just say the same crap that doesn't work. And you are too stupid to realize it doesn't.

oneshot j4 mid1 votes

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Oh wow. You are going to tell me what I am thinking? You got some nerve. If I say accept it, then take it as truth and move on.

Those videos do not work for me, nothing works for everyone. That's a lie.

Once again if I am going to over 50% of my games with a afk at some point then you I am going in with a disadvantage. If I have teams that do not work together the same applies. Once again do some research rather than just guess and run your mouth. If I was telling you what you do wrong. I would at least view a game first, but you don't feel that you need to. And that's because you think you are right all the time!

Once again, I never said I didn't belong in B5 lately. You need to get off the same talking point,

You aren't here to help, you just say the same crap that doesn't work. And you are too stupid to realize it doesn't.

Just because you claim not to be something doesn't mean I'm just going to look past the facts. If I tell someone who is punching holes in a wall after losing a game that he has an anger problem, and he tells me "YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO TELL ME WHAT I'M THINKING!!", that doesn't just make him immune from having an anger problem. You're simply in denial, and it's very common in psychology to see insecure people in denial, which only blinds them from their true issues.

"nothing works for everyone" is the real lie, you can't just deny a natural human learning process and claim yourself as special and immune to learning in a proven way. Unless you have a learning disability you can learn from educational league videos and improve. Like I said, you're just negative :)

Nope, you still can't deny the factual statistics I have presented, you still fail to realize that my point about AFKers is OBJECTIVE, not SUBJECTIVE, it is not an opinion, it's a fact. You do not have AFKers in over 50% of your games, that's an exaggeration you make because you're negative, and this is easily proven by reviewing your ranked games on OP.GG. With over 500 ranked games, it's also very close to statistically impossible that YOUR team has more AFKers than the opposing team on average. Stop making stuff up :)

You never said you don't belong in B5? Then answer my question, what makes you think that someone should just carry you to a rank you don't deserve?

I was here to help, until I realized that you are beyond repair. Enjoy your lack of success in League of Legends, and also your lack of success in any other area of your life that you treat like this.

Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Anticarry,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-24T01:18:12.731+0000)

Just because you claim not to be something doesn't mean I'm just going to look past the facts. If I tell someone who is punching holes in a wall after losing a game that he has an anger problem, and he tells me "YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO TELL ME WHAT I'M THINKING!!", that doesn't just make him immune from having an anger problem. You're simply in denial, and it's very common in psychology to see insecure people in denial, which only blinds them from their true issues.

"nothing works for everyone" is the real lie, you can't just deny a natural human learning process and claim yourself as special and immune to learning in a proven way. Unless you have a learning disability you can learn from educational league videos and improve. Like I said, you're just negative :)

Nope, you still can't deny the factual statistics I have presented, you still fail to realize that my point about AFKers is OBJECTIVE, not SUBJECTIVE, it is not an opinion, it's a fact. You do not have AFKers in over 50% of your games, that's an exaggeration you make because you're negative, and this is easily proven by reviewing your ranked games on OP.GG. With over 500 ranked games, it's also very close to statistically impossible that YOUR team has more AFKers than the opposing team on average. Stop making stuff up :)

You never said you don't belong in B5? Then answer my question, what makes you think that someone should just carry you to a rank you don't deserve?

I was here to help, until I realized that you are beyond repair. Enjoy your lack of success in League of Legends, and also your lack of success in any other area of your life that you treat like this.

You instead of actually helping me, you spit out the same hot garbage as others in this forum?

Some people learn visually, others learn in many other ways. You are narrowed minded.

I do have more afks against me than in my favor. That's a fact. You have no proof to back up a word you say. You want to help me? Play with me, instead of being quitter like the rest.

I will answer you question. Because my other B5 friends are getting carried my smurfs, so why not me? Oh because people like you don't like me. I get it, everyone should get carried but me. What great people on this forum.

Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Anticarry,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-24T01:18:12.731+0000)

Just because you claim not to be something doesn't mean I'm just going to look past the facts. If I tell someone who is punching holes in a wall after losing a game that he has an anger problem, and he tells me "YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO TELL ME WHAT I'M THINKING!!", that doesn't just make him immune from having an anger problem. You're simply in denial, and it's very common in psychology to see insecure people in denial, which only blinds them from their true issues.

"nothing works for everyone" is the real lie, you can't just deny a natural human learning process and claim yourself as special and immune to learning in a proven way. Unless you have a learning disability you can learn from educational league videos and improve. Like I said, you're just negative :)

Nope, you still can't deny the factual statistics I have presented, you still fail to realize that my point about AFKers is OBJECTIVE, not SUBJECTIVE, it is not an opinion, it's a fact. You do not have AFKers in over 50% of your games, that's an exaggeration you make because you're negative, and this is easily proven by reviewing your ranked games on OP.GG. With over 500 ranked games, it's also very close to statistically impossible that YOUR team has more AFKers than the opposing team on average. Stop making stuff up :)

You never said you don't belong in B5? Then answer my question, what makes you think that someone should just carry you to a rank you don't deserve?

I was here to help, until I realized that you are beyond repair. Enjoy your lack of success in League of Legends, and also your lack of success in any other area of your life that you treat like this.

You weren't here to help. You were just here to tell I suck over and over again. Guess what I know that. You have nothing new to say and I answered you question but people like won't respond to it. Why because you got carried and then got good based of watching others play and playing with other. The very thing you are trying to deny me. Yeah, you aren't trying to help, you just want to keep me down.

Sniper 02 votes

Lyless please... I don't want you in any silver games... :C I feel like it would be very unpleasant to play with you... z.z

Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zyra Suit Samus,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-04-24T02:16:42.385+0000)

Lyless please... I don't want you in any silver games... :C I feel like it would be very unpleasant to play with you... z.z

your opinion.

blackychan162 votes

I got a headache reading all of this lol

Gimpy892 votes

whenever people say "help im in bronze and i cant get out" i think of the life alert commercial and all those ridiculously clumsy old people.

Lyless1 votes

{quoted}

whenever people say "help im in bronze and i cant get out" i think of the life alert commercial and all those ridiculously clumsy old people.

well you never have been in this situation where litterallyeverything is against you.

Gimpy891 votes

{quoted}

well you never have been in this situation where litterallyeverything is against you.

everyone has unwinnable games and everyone has unloseable games with about equal probability, but you will go to where you belong over 100 ish games as the only common factor in your games will be your game-play. you have spent 500 games in bronze. this isn't bad luck (if you want i can prove this mathematically). Just do CS training in customs and try to get better. don't get boosted. Don't be the cancer of ranked.

if you want to get silver start with these very basic things for about 3-4 champs: 1)only play rank 5 champs (you will hit rank 5 practicing any champ in morns before it is ready for ranked)

get a higher elo to help with this if you want 2)learn all the items and what they are used for. EX:Maw is a offensive/tanky AD item good against magic damage (especially burst). 3)have variable build paths for all your champions that take into account being ahead/behind and what team you are and are against(ap/ad high/low cc ect).
4)practice CS with that champ in a custom game vs nothing. try to get 95% cs. 5)learn that champs matchups and how to deal with counters. 6)EVERY game you play learn to identify your own mistakes and think about what to do better. record your games if you have to.

Lyless1 votes

{quoted}

everyone has unwinnable games and everyone has unloseable games with about equal probability, but you will go to where you belong over 100 ish games as the only common factor in your games will be your game-play. you have spent 500 games in bronze. this isn't bad luck (if you want i can prove this mathematically). Just do CS training in customs and try to get better. don't get boosted. Don't be the cancer of ranked.

if you want to get silver start with these very basic things for about 3-4 champs: 1)only play rank 5 champs (you will hit rank 5 practicing any champ in morns before it is ready for ranked)

get a higher elo to help with this if you want 2)learn all the items and what they are used for. EX:Maw is a offensive/tanky AD item good against magic damage (especially burst). 3)have variable build paths for all your champions that take into account being ahead/behind and what team you are and are against(ap/ad high/low cc ect).
4)practice CS with that champ in a custom game vs nothing. try to get 95% cs. 5)learn that champs matchups and how to deal with counters. 6)EVERY game you play learn to identify your own mistakes and think about what to do better. record your games if you have to.

I have done all these thing but record my games. And don't need to do that because I remember most of them.

HardcoreVenom1 votes

I have a account I am leveling, I'll be on in 30 mins. add vEnoMmmLives

shorwar21 votes

add me im s5 my mains gold though

Lyless1 votes

Now anyone welcome to help me is welcomed to do so. Please ignore the trolls and jerks who continue to harass me for no reason, even when I ask them not to.

Enraged Peanut1 votes

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Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Enraged Peanut,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-04-24T02:11:48.151+0000)

I have an honest question. What is preventing you from becoming as good as the smurfs who are carrying your friends out of b5? If there are people carrying your friends out of this elo that is impossible to win in, how are they doing it? Are they on super lucky accounts that allow them to win games that normal people can not win?

Part of becoming good at this game involves identifying the mistakes you are making and how you can improve. Some games will not be winnable, it happens. But in bronze, 90% of them are winnable, even the 4v5s.

If you truely have a desire to improve, spend some time looking at your replays and seeing where you go wrong. Could you have been somewhere on the map faster to help with a fight? Can you catch out someone rotating at a bad time? Are your lanes overextended and you can provide pings for them to improve their map awareness?

If you are in bronze 5, it is quite simply because you are not good. You need to realize this, identify your mistakes, learn from those trying to help you, and eventually you will get better and begin to climb.

When I have said I am good? You keep bringing up mute points. I know what I am doing wrong. And 90% of 4vs5 are not winnable. My friends are getting out because they are getting carried out. But no one will just carry me out. I have to jump though 8000 hoops and they just get a free pass.

In the hour long game I had tonight, I lost because my friend Jeff had a smurf team to carry him, did I? Nope. And you people won't help with that! You aren't trying to help me.

Enraged Peanut2 votes

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Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Enraged Peanut,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-04-24T02:26:08.355+0000)

We actually are trying to help you. Its the analogy of give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will be fed for a lifetime. People are trying to teach you to climb, rather than just carry you.

What good will it do you to be carried to silver where you will just lose more games?

And trying to teach me the game? You are trying to doom into a horrible soul crushing losing streak, but you don't care. I should watch everyone else get carried while I stay in the same spot. Yeah that will work.

Lyless1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Enraged Peanut,realm=NA,application-id=K6EGEal2,discussion-id=zIU2t9sz,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2016-04-24T02:26:08.355+0000)

We actually are trying to help you. Its the analogy of give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will be fed for a lifetime. People are trying to teach you to climb, rather than just carry you.

What good will it do you to be carried to silver where you will just lose more games?

I am losing games now, your way I will lose even more. How low do you want my MMR to go? You want me learn my getting my brains beat out even more?

SoulNibbler1 votes

I am gold 5 and i would win about 85% of bronze 5 games. The point is that bronze is your skill level and instead of learning what you did wrong, you are focused on everone else. Someone else lost the game, someone else should carry you.

ANY person who is much higher elo could tell you how to win games, but you don't want to learn.

Lyless1 votes

{quoted}

I am gold 5 and i would win about 85% of bronze 5 games. The point is that bronze is your skill level and instead of learning what you did wrong, you are focused on everone else. Someone else lost the game, someone else should carry you.

ANY person who is much higher elo could tell you how to win games, but you don't want to learn.

I want to be shown not told, I don't learn by being told, I have to see it. You guys just don't get it.

HEAljvLykd1 votes

Lyless you'll stay Bronze as long as you keep complaining!!, Please, do you have a stream? If not make one, I would LOVE to watch you play!

Lyless1 votes

{quoted}

Lyless you'll stay Bronze as long as you keep complaining!!, Please, do you have a stream? If not make one, I would LOVE to watch you play!

when I get my smurf like everyone else got I will stop. Once I climb I will stop.

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