Let's be honest. Playing anything but ranked is useless.

Lyless·Jul 12, 2015·1 votes·2,175 views

I am trying to get the hell out Bronze 5 so does anyone in Bronze want to team up?!?!?

107 Comments

OhBoyItsaMegamanJul 12, 20158 votes

I know you were asking for a partner and not just advice, but you could use some advice. You never buy wards, you never upgrade your trinket, you sometimes go entire games without using the trinket, and sometimes you forget to even buy one at all. You also—and this is the shocker—almost never buy boots. This shows that you really are missing a big part of the game as a jungler.

There is a Tips and Tricks board where you can get all kinds of help. People will spectate your games, watch your replays, hop on Skype with you, whatever you need. If duoing with this guy gets you carried out of Bronze V and into mid-Bronze, you will not be able to stay there unless you learn more about the game.

Mister LauJul 12, 20153 votes

holy moly i'm getting aids

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

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holy moly i'm getting aids

sorry, the warding doesn't help me to win, so I am just not doing it and I am not going to get a trinket and take up a valuable spot that can be used for something else.

steampigJul 12, 20151 votes

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sorry, the warding doesn't help me to win, so I am just not doing it and I am not going to get a trinket and take up a valuable spot that can be used for something else.

Trinkets don't take up space that can be used for anything else. Ever had a dragon stolen, a baron go uncontested by your team, or lost a buff from your own jungle? Likely you have. Wards don't win games, but they certainly help.

DeathStormJul 13, 20151 votes

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sorry, the warding doesn't help me to win, so I am just not doing it and I am not going to get a trinket and take up a valuable spot that can be used for something else.

First, The Trinkets have their own slot, so it's not taking away from your six item build. Next, if warding isn't helping you win, then what is, you must be Challenger or something. Warding is not just the supports job. Everyone has a part to play. 1 player can placed 3 stealth wards and 1 vision ward at a time. Not nearly enough to grant full map vision, maybe enough for an objective, but everything else will be darker than my closet. Honestly, you come here to be carried out of bronze, we are here to teach you how to carry yourself. It's not lazyness of why we don't carry you, it's so you can continue to carry out of more than just bronze.

BeertasterJul 12, 20152 votes

I spent 20 games last year getting out of Bronze 4 to silver 5 and then the next season comes along and throws me back into B1. Ranked is dumb.

ToonspikeJul 12, 20152 votes

ok how about this, for the next 5 games whether it be ranked or normals record and watch over them later on OP.GG ( http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lyless+) look over all of your games from start to finish look over all your ganks, your objective attempts and even how the enemy team responds to them so you can observe everything from a different perspective, if you never used this site before then when you search you summoner name while you're in a game and click on ingame info while you the game is loading you can click the record button so its records the entire game and it saves it the site, its lasts on there for up to 10 days so you can look at it whenever

On HuntJul 12, 20152 votes

how old are you?

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

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how old are you?

How dare you say that?

Make Na GreatJul 14, 20152 votes

The watch yourself and learn what you do wrong, but you can't see what you're doing wrong without watching someone show you which option is better. You don't see your own faults, which means someone else perspective can look at your actions objectively without getting defensive. You say wards don't help you win games? Are you using vision correctly? Do you know what to do with vision? how to obtain objectives? If you don't know, then when will you ever if you aren't asking these questions to yourself? Pro players or those in high elo will tell you why. Listen to them instead of rejecting it. It's not going to be a quick fix. You aren't going to win right away, unless you can apply all the advice they are going to give you. It's not going to be easy. 1 game isn't going to fix everything, but their advice will help.

ToonspikeJul 12, 20151 votes

^ Yeah i agree with this guy you're stuck in B5 because your build paths are terrible, duoing with others is not going to fix that. Playing nothing but ranked without understanding the basics is going to keep you in bronze

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

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^ Yeah i agree with this guy you're stuck in B5 because your build paths are terrible, duoing with others is not going to fix that. Playing nothing but ranked without understanding the basics is going to keep you in bronze

Yeah, this isn't the place to tell how terrible I am. But I am not terrible. I am playing to win, not some meaningless normal games that mean nothing. As soon as I have a good team around me. I won't lose.

name is marlonJul 12, 20152 votes

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Yeah, this isn't the place to tell how terrible I am. But I am not terrible. I am playing to win, not some meaningless normal games that mean nothing. As soon as I have a good team around me. I won't lose.

Vision is part of the game, vision wins or throws games. If you as a jungler dont ward drag and baron and throw a few pinks down, you shouldent be in ranked.

OhBoyItsaMegamanJul 12, 20152 votes

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Yeah, this isn't the place to tell how terrible I am. But I am not terrible. I am playing to win, not some meaningless normal games that mean nothing. As soon as I have a good team around me. I won't lose.

I spectated your game just now. Compared to other Bronze V players, you are average. Compared to the rest of the ranked community as a whole, you are terrible. I'm not saying it to be mean, I'm saying it to put things into perspective and also to let you know that there is A LOT about this game that you have yet to learn.

I saw two ults where you could not perform the dash because you were out of range of the champion you wanted to hit. I saw at least two flashes that were completely unnecessary: one where you flashed away from a 0 mana Heimer while you were at half health and already safe under tower, and another where you were dueling Nasus and literally flashed from one side of him to the other even though both of you were standing still. I saw your team get 3-for-0 and you broke off to wander around and do your blue instead of taking mid or baron with the team. I saw all 5 members of your team in mid get a double kill (with 2 showing at bot) and you did not immediately go for baron. I saw you walk past your red several times without bothering to take it. I saw you try to solo a Lee Sin who had an entire item up on you, instead of running towards your Twitch who was half a screen to the right. I saw you stand in place attacking someone as they ran, instead of moving with them between autoattacks.

I saw you doing at a lot of things that even Silver players almost never do. And if you're not willing to look at your flaws, you're not ever going to learn not to do those things. Most of these were not "oops" moments where you knew the right thing to do but did the wrong thing by accident. These were things that you either thought were right or things that you were doing on autopilot without thinking about them at all.

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

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Yeah, this isn't the place to tell how terrible I am. But I am not terrible. I am playing to win, not some meaningless normal games that mean nothing. As soon as I have a good team around me. I won't lose.

I used boots before but it didn't work out so I dropped it. The result will not be any better with boots or with a ward. I need a better team.

ToonspikeJul 12, 20151 votes

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I used boots before but it didn't work out so I dropped it. The result will not be any better with boots or with a ward. I need a better team.

instead of getting better youself so you can carry yourself out of B5 you immediately have the mindset of " i need a better team to carry me out" but the problem in this lies in that the people you play with/against have a similiar skill level as yourself so rarely will there be a "better team"

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

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instead of getting better youself so you can carry yourself out of B5 you immediately have the mindset of " i need a better team to carry me out" but the problem in this lies in that the people you play with/against have a similiar skill level as yourself so rarely will there be a "better team"

at some point it won't matter how good I am, if the team remains the same level. Besides I haven't seen one thing saying hey, this is how you can get better! All I see is you suck and you won't get better the end. You think I didn't get boots before. But...... if you lose mid within in the first ten mins of the game, well...

ToonspikeJul 12, 20152 votes

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at some point it won't matter how good I am, if the team remains the same level. Besides I haven't seen one thing saying hey, this is how you can get better! All I see is you suck and you won't get better the end. You think I didn't get boots before. But...... if you lose mid within in the first ten mins of the game, well...

are you actually saying that after two pages of comment you havent found a single thing you could do to improve your playstyle, and those games where one lane lost horribly, what were you doing during that time, and how does that dignify you not getting any boots

steampigJul 12, 20151 votes

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Yeah, this isn't the place to tell how terrible I am. But I am not terrible. I am playing to win, not some meaningless normal games that mean nothing. As soon as I have a good team around me. I won't lose.

They aren't just telling you you're terrible, they are trying to help you. Consider the advice, don't just brush it off. You aren't a Challenger player stuck in a Bronze V account, you are are Bronze V player. We've all been there. The ones who progress are the ones who are willing to learn.

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

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They aren't just telling you you're terrible, they are trying to help you. Consider the advice, don't just brush it off. You aren't a Challenger player stuck in a Bronze V account, you are are Bronze V player. We've all been there. The ones who progress are the ones who are willing to learn.

You are saying the same crap boots and trinkets and warding. All of which I am doing, and what happened last game. My team just fed out of control. But I suppose that's my fault somehow!

ToonspikeJul 13, 20151 votes

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You are saying the same crap boots and trinkets and warding. All of which I am doing, and what happened last game. My team just fed out of control. But I suppose that's my fault somehow!

wins arent going to just be handed to you, even if you do everything right there are some games you will end up losing but by actually learning on how you yourself can do better instead of sticking with a method that obviously hasnt been working you'll start winning more games

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

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wins arent going to just be handed to you, even if you do everything right there are some games you will end up losing but by actually learning on how you yourself can do better instead of sticking with a method that obviously hasnt been working you'll start winning more games

well I don't have time for that. I want to win now.

ToonspikeJul 13, 20151 votes

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well I don't have time for that. I want to win now.

its because you're looking for instaneous results instead of trying to steadily improve with that kind of mindset and attitude you're going to stay in bronze and quite frankly deserve to

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

a ward isn't going assure a kill, it will only help me locate it. You guys act like I am playing 1vs5!

ToonspikeJul 12, 20151 votes

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a ward isn't going assure a kill, it will only help me locate it. You guys act like I am playing 1vs5!

it also helps you deny kills, as it shows when you're about to get ganked/ what objectives the enemy team are setting up to do/ catches out carries that are overextended/ split pushers etc

LylessJul 12, 20151 votes

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it also helps you deny kills, as it shows when you're about to get ganked/ what objectives the enemy team are setting up to do/ catches out carries that are overextended/ split pushers etc

but it doesn't guarantee a win or having good teammates. Hell, most of my teammates feed! And my build is fine!

ToonspikeJul 12, 20152 votes

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but it doesn't guarantee a win or having good teammates. Hell, most of my teammates feed! And my build is fine!

If you're stuck in bronze 5....its not because of your teammates

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

this BS every game. I am doing what people are saying. It's done nothing. I am actually worse now, than I was before. So thanks for that!

Deko The GeckoJul 13, 20151 votes

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this BS every game. I am doing what people are saying. It's done nothing. I am actually worse now, than I was before. So thanks for that!

you deserve w/e division you are in said a wise man, probably yoda.

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

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you deserve w/e division you are in said a wise man, probably yoda.

I was told get rid of my KOTR and bloodthrister combo and now I am not nearly as strong. So thanks for that!

Deko The GeckoJul 13, 20151 votes

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I was told get rid of my KOTR and bloodthrister combo and now I am not nearly as strong. So thanks for that!

i never told you to do that, but you're welcome :D

ToonspikeJul 13, 20151 votes

may you stay forever in the swamp that is bronze

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

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may you stay forever in the swamp that is bronze You should have just said from the start!

ToonspikeJul 13, 20151 votes

Here this video was made for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLrRj3plqVY

LylessJul 13, 20151 votes

same result as the first. Thanks to this advice I am getting worse.

ToonspikeJul 14, 20151 votes

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

Now I am telling your punk self to not comment anymore! This is how LOL players act I guess!

BRAV0SJul 14, 20151 votes

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SohamJul 14, 20151 votes

lets fuck baby ill play with you

SohamJul 14, 20151 votes

lets fuck hard baby

Make Na GreatJul 14, 20151 votes

After reading or skimming through, you just want to win. It had nothing to do with how to win or how to increase your chances of winning. Just winning isn't good enough, especially if you're not learning. If you want to achieve your goal, how will you do it(ask that to yourself every game)? What are you doing wrong and what are you doing right? If you can stream, you should be able to rewatch your game and look at every action with an objective eye. When to gank, where to ward. Watching pro streamers on how to jungle will do wonders. There is a reason why they're up there. Notice how I'm not talking about your team. That is out of your control. Focus on what you can do, instead of wishing for a random good team.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

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After reading or skimming through, you just want to win. It had nothing to do with how to win or how to increase your chances of winning. Just winning isn't good enough, especially if you're not learning. If you want to achieve your goal, how will you do it(ask that to yourself every game)? What are you doing wrong and what are you doing right? If you can stream, you should be able to rewatch your game and look at every action with an objective eye. When to gank, where to ward. Watching pro streamers on how to jungle will do wonders. There is a reason why they're up there. Notice how I'm not talking about your team. That is out of your control. Focus on what you can do, instead of wishing for a random good team.

I don't get better by watching others! I am not that kind of learner.

LylessJul 14, 20151 votes

This just isn't going to get any better.

bobbylopez94Jul 14, 20151 votes

LOLz this guy/gal aint never gonna get out of b5 hahaha poor kid. Warding is the shit. go to ward score.com and see your score and try to improve. Because honestly this game is about team work. the more drags you pull the better and wards will help. If your losing but a decent about of kills you can still win with 4 drags. WARD,WARDS,WARDS. GG EZ item 2044 item 2043 buy us ;'(

ToonspikeJul 14, 20151 votes

he's essentially asking to get carried without wanting to put in the effort to get better himself, he insists that when he loses its because of his teammates doing bad even though he'll have games like this himself ( http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1885310644/217527769?tab=overview ) like how do you even defend this