Tired of Bronze 5

RedTao·Jul 26, 2016·1 votes·779 views

I've been stuck in bronze 5 for the past 4-5 years now.

I know that I'm garbage and have already been told to kill myself more times than I care so look at (I guess I'm just that bad). I'm pretty much going to be permabanned anyways so if I could get any assistance in figuring out how to get out of bronze 5 or other bronze players who want to try and play with me, both would be appreciated.

I couldn't care less about taking the game seriously anymore since Riot's threatening me, but if I could at least get out of bronze 5 before they give me the boot, it'd certainly mean a bit for me to not be the worst player in the game anymore.

I would honestly prefer people who don't mind bad players. I'm tired of offending people without even trying to and I don't want to subject anyone to "Negative experiences" from my bad playing anymore.

38 Comments

BlåbæretJul 30, 20162 votes

Dude, just stop writing in chat. Just stop.

Go practice 2-3 hard carry champs in normal for 2-3 weeks then go ranked (ONLY PLAY THESE CHAMPS). Play top, mid or jng. Don't play bot if you want to carry the game. You jave to carry to get out of bronze. Always assume that your team is useless.

With that said, usually people who's stuck in bronze 5 are actually playing at that level (not that I'm an amazing player myself), but there are of course exceptions. Most of the time it's the fact that people don't spend enough time on a specific set of champions and instead play their entire pool and fail miserably. You simply can't play 20+ champs to their maximum potential in bronze.

Sub to diamond+ streamers and watch them play. You'll pick up a lot of neat tricks.

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I can't say nothing in chat. You can look on boards and see that people are being permabanned without having to say anything. Because of this, saying nothing is not an option since Riot likes to assume things anyways. People seem to not report me when I say that i'm crap, apoligize for everything and agree with them on every insult they give me, so this is all I am permited to say without Riot saying i'm toxic.

I've specialized with several champs, I'm still crap and I still cant get out of B5. I've been trying for years now, I have my few champs Im good at, I'm just garbage. I can't do what pro players do. I've tried. I always fail. Since Riot is going to permaban me anyways, may as well play ranked then. I didn't have a reason to subject anyone else to my crap playing, so may as well do it now since no matter what I say/do I'm going to be permabanned. It's why I made this thread. To at least try and get out before they decide to permaban me. It's not like I can do anything about it now.

balbraakselJul 26, 20161 votes

Why play ranked if you're in Bronze 5? You must've noticed by now that that place isn't fun to play in and that usually you alone can't have influence on the outcome of the match. When I was in Bronze 5 I simply gave up, I mained support and still do but back then I was having a KDA of more than 10 (had a Lulu support KDA of 15,4 with 32 matches played, that was before Lulu became a common mid pick, and **still **more losses than wins) yet still wasn't winning at all, eventually I broke free and had a winstreak of 14 to Silver 4 or so.

RedTaoJul 29, 20161 votes

Because Riot has been threatening me with permaban with no instructions as to how to avoid it. It's been 5-6 months now since my last punishment and the next punishment in the tier is still permaban. Their statement saying that it goes down over time was a lie.

So since I'm going to be permabanned anyways, may as well try to get out of Bronze 5 for once in the years I've been playing. That was I can maybe at least say that I wasn't the worst player in the game anymore. If they're going to permaban me when I dont even play ranked, then there's literally nothing keeping me from it anymore.

Couple that with noone wanting to play with me anyways because of Riot's imposed threats that now force me to only be capable of saying 2 things (1. I suck, 2. Im sorry), I've now lost every friend I've made in this game. I've driven them off because i'm not allowed to say anything else. So now I'm here, looking for someone who wouldn't mind playing with a piece of crap like me for the short time I maybe have left here.

Depressing, I know. But when I have Riot and the Community here constantly telling me I'm a toxic piece of crap who sucks at the game and should go kill myself, I'd say it's easy to see it that way. I would disagree with them that I'm not tryign to be toxic and that I do have my occasional good games, but to do so "creates a negative experience" for others. So it's not allowed.

Im sorry for the long read. But I didn't want any details left out. Im also sorry if I offended you in anyway. It was not my intention and never has been in my 4-5 years playing this game. No matter what Riot says.

balbraakselJul 29, 20162 votes

Step 1: Read the Summoner's Code. Step 2: Abide by it.

Just do that, you don't have to get a punishment because some have never gotten any sort of punishment which I'm one of so it surely is possible, it's just really simple, just don't break the Summoner's Code.

There's nothing you said you could've offended me with.

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I did that, I was still punished. I showed them how I abided by it, I was still told im toxic piece of crap. I asked what I can say that isn't toxic, they wont tell me. I ask for any advice, they say follow summoners code.

Following the summoners code does nothing. Riot/Community decides what's against punishable and what's not, not the code. Because of this, I literally can't say anything without reprecussion. I'm now forced to either apoligize for everything (Even if it's not my fault) or bad-mouth myself. These are the only things I've been able to say for almost a year that people seem to want to hear from me and wont result in Riot saying I'm toxic.

Immortal spaxJul 30, 20161 votes

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Because Riot has been threatening me with permaban with no instructions as to how to avoid it. It's been 5-6 months now since my last punishment and the next punishment in the tier is still permaban. Their statement saying that it goes down over time was a lie.

So since I'm going to be permabanned anyways, may as well try to get out of Bronze 5 for once in the years I've been playing. That was I can maybe at least say that I wasn't the worst player in the game anymore. If they're going to permaban me when I dont even play ranked, then there's literally nothing keeping me from it anymore.

Couple that with noone wanting to play with me anyways because of Riot's imposed threats that now force me to only be capable of saying 2 things (1. I suck, 2. Im sorry), I've now lost every friend I've made in this game. I've driven them off because i'm not allowed to say anything else. So now I'm here, looking for someone who wouldn't mind playing with a piece of crap like me for the short time I maybe have left here.

Depressing, I know. But when I have Riot and the Community here constantly telling me I'm a toxic piece of crap who sucks at the game and should go kill myself, I'd say it's easy to see it that way. I would disagree with them that I'm not tryign to be toxic and that I do have my occasional good games, but to do so "creates a negative experience" for others. So it's not allowed.

Im sorry for the long read. But I didn't want any details left out. Im also sorry if I offended you in anyway. It was not my intention and never has been in my 4-5 years playing this game. No matter what Riot says.

Why dont create a new account? You will get easily to lvl 30 and if you go atleast 4-6 at the placement you will be silver 5.

Who knows, maybe you are just in elohell and in silver you will climb.

Sona PingJul 30, 20161 votes

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Why dont create a new account? You will get easily to lvl 30 and if you go atleast 4-6 at the placement you will be silver 5.

Who knows, maybe you are just in elohell and in silver you will climb.

Because then he would have to spend a stupid amount of time grinding an account to 30, taking that account into ranked, an account that certainly has less resources for him to work with, and then be placed against opponents that are above his Elo.

Playing a new account to try to climb is going to be nothing but a recipe for frustration

Immortal spaxJul 30, 20161 votes

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Because then he would have to spend a stupid amount of time grinding an account to 30, taking that account into ranked, an account that certainly has less resources for him to work with, and then be placed against opponents that are above his Elo.

Playing a new account to try to climb is going to be nothing but a recipe for frustration

One of the tips for climb is to main 2 roles with 2 champs for each role.

Basically she needs 4 champ to play.

Also as i said maybe he is in elohell, and with this new account he will climb.

She also said that her account will be permabanned and chatrestricted(?), in the worst case she will come B5 again, but atleast with a clean account

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

It takes weeks to get lvl 30, Runes are stupid expensive and take months to afford even a basic page, months on top of that to get the champs I'm not utter crap at, and even then it wont change that Riot wont let me say/do anything differently. They seem to only want to seem e talk crap about myself and apoligize for everything. It wont matter if I make another account if this is the case. I'm still forced to say the same 2 things all game, every game and I will still never get out of B5.

Thus why I made this thread. Since it wont matter what I do and it's going to end one way, may as well try to get out of B5. It's not like Riot/Community/anyone cares that I don't want to offend anyone and I'm just playing the game because I enjoy it. Not to torment anyone else, not to get a reaction out of others, not to offend anyone. Just play the game. The game was at least fun when I was able to say some of the things in my mind. Now that I'm stuck with only saying 1 of 2 things, there's just no joy in it anymore. It doens't help that I can't find anyone who doesn't get offended over everything. Even here I can't find anyone who actually likes playing with me.

maximumhpAug 19, 20161 votes

ok im not in anyway promoting buying accounts but... their like 50 bucks for 60+champs

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

It wont change anything. I still cant say anything other than apoligies or bad mouthing myself. As long as that does not change, then it wont matter what account im on. im not trying to get out of bronze 5 to prove anything. It's just something I've never been able to do and would like to do before Riot decides to permaban me.

AdeBugAug 19, 20161 votes

offending ppl without realizing it? hmmmm that's hard to believe and like someone else suggested, read the summoner's code again and again and see what you CAN say in the chat that is positive to the team and defo not toxic. If you don't know this by now then you clearly have not paid attention to it. and if you don't care about the game anymore, why would anyone help you? you can always just stick their advice where the sun don't shine cus 'idc', so....

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I analyzed it and even gave an essay showing how my behavior was in accordance with the Summoners code. Riot disregarded it without disproving any of my points made in it.

I don't care about the game anymore because noone cares about anyone else here. Why else would it still be commonplace to tell teams to report people, that they suck d**k and should go kill themselves? I've never been a jerk to others and it resulted in me getting punished. So now I don't care. It's not like people actually care about each other here. The fact that I can only apolgize for everything and constantly say how sh*t I am without negative action on me proves it. People only want to see other people suffer here. It's the only thing that wont get me banned. Unfortunately I've lost friends here because I'm forced to say only these 2 things. Riot wont tell me what else I can say despite telling me to "behave better". If I don't know what their definition of what good behavior is, I can't change accordingly.

AdeBugAug 19, 20161 votes

they did tell u, it's in the code.

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I did that. I even gave them an essay showing how my behavior was in accordance with the code. They disregarded it and just kept saying Im toxic. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that I've been doing what they banned me for for almost every game for the past 7 months, yet they reformed me for doing it while still threatening to permaban me.

Since they wont tell me what they want to see, I wanted to ask here since they're not telling me in tickets.

AdeBugAug 19, 20161 votes

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I did that. I even gave them an essay showing how my behavior was in accordance with the code. They disregarded it and just kept saying Im toxic. The thing that doesn't make sense to me is that I've been doing what they banned me for for almost every game for the past 7 months, yet they reformed me for doing it while still threatening to permaban me.

Since they wont tell me what they want to see, I wanted to ask here since they're not telling me in tickets.

like i said before, if u cant tell when ur being offensive, it goes both ways and u cant tell that ur abidin the summoner's code either. read it more carefully

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I did that. That's what I based my entire in-game behavior around.

It's pointless to follow the summoners code when you have Rioters like WobblyJibbler saying that it doesn't matter if you follow it or if you followed the directions of other Rioters. In the end, the individuals decide what's acceptable and what's not regardless what is said and written.

They can't/wont even tell me what they want to see from me. So I can't change anything about my behavior/speech from badmouthing and apoligiziing for everything to anything else. They're saying anything I do could result in permaban so I literally can't change what i'm doing without risk of getting banned.

Young JerkAug 19, 20161 votes

Guys think about this

if he is actually this bad, that people are reporting him enough for him to actually get punished, he must be ruining a lot of games with his terrible playing. I mean to be honest, if you lack the common sense to play at a decent level in BRONZE 5, you probably deserve to be permabanned

as opposed to ruining countless more games. I know it's harsh guys, but we all want to have fun, and when you are just playing terribly all the time no one is having fun, probably not even you

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

I don't care that I'm crap at the game. Im more upset that I'm only allowed to only badmouth myself and apoligize for everything. Even this Riot/Community are saying I'm toxic for doing despite them reforming me for saying nothing but these 2 things. I haven't been able to get out of B5 for past 4 years (Not from lack of trying) but now that I'm only allowed to say 2 things, I've lost most of the friends I've made here because of this. It's hard to maintain friendships when Riot is only allowing you to talk sh*t about yourself and apoligize for everything.

That being said, I seldom played ranked before Riot started threatening to permaban me. Me being the crap player that I am stayed in normals since I didn't want to ruin anyones ability to climb. Now that Riot is threatening me with permaban despite playing normals ("It's just normals after all") I now have no reason to stay out of Ranked. Im going to be banned anyways so may as well try to climb even if I have no chance of doing so. I know that I'm sh*t so odds are I'm going to end up ruining hundreds of peoples ranked games just because Riot took away any reason to stay away from them.

If you believe I should be permabanned, ask Riot why they haven't done it yet. They wont tell me but maybe they'll tell you.

170brashAug 19, 20161 votes

you're just feeling sorry for yourself. get over it kid. you just want attention go somewhere else

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

If only. I made this because Riot is not telling me anything regarding what they want to see from me and keep saying they're going to permaban me. Since they're not answering in tickets, may as well ask them here.

RazuredAug 19, 20161 votes

Add me, maybe I can give you some tips on the game! :)

RedTaoAug 19, 20161 votes

If you dont mind my bad playing and only being able to say 1 of 2 things, I wouldn't mind. Just keep in mind that I don't do/say anything with the intent of offending you. I just suck and have only 2 things to say that Riot approves of.

Is your username the same in client?

xPlay MakerxAug 19, 20161 votes

They wont perma ban you for being bad lol you either rage or throw games purposly. If i can give you one tip it is this. Pretend you teammates are bots.. Mute them. Focus only on yourself and what you can do to help the team. when a teammate dies say nothing but if they do something well say good job. Chat will tilt yourself and your teammates more than anything. Focus on what YOU can do better andyou will eventually climb.

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

People are getting banned regardless if they dont say anything. With this in mind, it doesnt' matter if I mute team. This just lets Riot/Community assume what they want and still result in permaban. "perception is reality". People think you're throwing, they're going to assume so since there's no way to prove otherwise. It doesn't matter that I'm garbage at this game, it's intentional feeding/throwing to them. There's no fighting perception.

I cant focus on bettering myself when I'm being threatened with reports if I dont do what other people want. If I dont do what they want, I'm seen as being "uncooperative" and creating a negative experience. It doenst matter is their orders are dumb/wont work. If I tell them no, then I'm toxic for not doing what they want me to.

FluffyBunniesAug 20, 20161 votes

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People are getting banned regardless if they dont say anything. With this in mind, it doesnt' matter if I mute team. This just lets Riot/Community assume what they want and still result in permaban. "perception is reality". People think you're throwing, they're going to assume so since there's no way to prove otherwise. It doesn't matter that I'm garbage at this game, it's intentional feeding/throwing to them. There's no fighting perception.

I cant focus on bettering myself when I'm being threatened with reports if I dont do what other people want. If I dont do what they want, I'm seen as being "uncooperative" and creating a negative experience. It doenst matter is their orders are dumb/wont work. If I tell them no, then I'm toxic for not doing what they want me to.

It sounds like people are just upset that you're making feeding in lane, so they all report you afterward for things you didnt do. Of course rito just assumes all the players reports are legitimate. I was stuck in bronze 5 for a long time also and something I noticed is that the vast majority of players in there are toxic themselves. (including myself at times) Best way out of bronze if no one offers to help you (i cant because i only just finally made it to bronze 1 again and dont want to lose it) is to just say fk them all, mute everyone start of the game and have some fun.

AdeBugAug 20, 20161 votes

u just admitted ur bad mouthin, first u didnt know when u can be offensive, now this... case closed.

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

Let me clarify: I am badmouthing MYSELF.

I've been badmouthing myself for over a year now and it resulted in getting me reformed. It's just what people want to see from me. Community likes seeing people feel like crap, Riot likes people beating themselves up to not create "negative experiences" for others.

xPlay MakerxAug 20, 20161 votes

"They can't/wont even tell me what they want to see from me. So I can't change anything about my behavior/speech from badmouthing and apoligiziing for everything to anything else. They're saying anything I do could result in permaban so I literally can't change what i'm doing without risk of getting banned." They want you to follow the summoners code lol you cant like you deserve special treatment from riot. They are not your baby sitters or your parents. They are not here to teach you right from wrong. GROW UP do it yourself. QUICK ASKING FOR HELP WHEN YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. Attention seaking at its finest

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

I do follow the summoners code. I've given them an essay showing it and they didn't disprove any of the points i made in it. They're not my babysitters, they're the wardens in this metaphorical jail. They decide what is acceptable, not my babysitter.

Im not asking for special treatment. Im asking what they want to see from me. What is acceptable and when does that action stop being acceptable. It's so subjective as to what's good/bad behavior that there's literally no way to see where the line is so that I cant cross it.

If you feel that I'm just an attention seeker then stop/dont talk to me. Im not asking you to be upset with me. Im asking for help. If you dont want to help, then dont. Noones forcing you to. At a minimum you wouldn't be upset if you just ignore me. I dont want anyone to be upset with me. Thus why I've been asking Riot what they want to see from me.

Darth AgamAug 20, 20161 votes

Well, I see that you're Bronze 4 now. So good job on moving out of Bronze 5. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

It only took 4+ years to do so. It wont matter in the long run. Riot's still going to permaban me. At least I'm not the worst player in Lol anymore.

FluffyBunniesAug 20, 20161 votes

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It only took 4+ years to do so. It wont matter in the long run. Riot's still going to permaban me. At least I'm not the worst player in Lol anymore.

A friend of mine holds that title, and he will defend it like his life depends on it if he has to.

On a side note that is totally unrelated.... I wonder if I am the only one who thinks watching bronze 5 games are more entertaining than LCS games. I think 10 bronze 5 players should be up on a stage playing how they normally do. I think the amount of toxicity being thrown around in chat, as well as the hilarious plays would be so much more [same wording sorry] entertaining.

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

Talking with other players was honestly the most fun part about the game since i'm so bad at it. Now that I cant say anything other than 2 things, the game is just a chore that i use to pass the time now. It's hard to have fun with a game you're bad at when you cant talk to people anymore without someone kicking you out of the game.

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

That's ok. I wouldn't want to ruin your score. Odds are you wouldn't like playing with me anyways. Call me an attention seeker for saying so but the record has been accurate on that.

While I would love to mute everyone and just do my own thing, this is considered a punishable offense by Riot. But not doing what the team is telling you to do you're deemed "uncooperative" and creating a negative experience. Thus why I apoligize for everything and badmouth myself. These are the things that got me reformed, doing anything else runs the risk of being deemed toxic and banned.

Im sorry if this response offended you. Have fun out there.

AptestAug 20, 20161 votes

I do not know your situation, however,

Assuming you do not talk to your team mates, do not run into enemy turrets and do not rage quit, I find it hard to believe you will be banned.

If you are being warned by riot, it means you are doing one of those three things. So I suggest you stop doing them. You do not have to mute other people - but you should mute yourself. Do not afk for whatever reason (if you are feeding because you sucked in lane give up the tower and roam), and do not feed "intentionally" I.E. by running into 5 opponents or into the enemy towers.

One more thing you can do, is queue dodge. If there are a lot of toxic players in your elo bracket, give up on playing with them once in a while. you do not have to play with a team that you think is going to be annoying.

As for climbing. I noticed you have a decent win rate with a bunch of champions. So you should have your climb going once you sort out your own attitude issue. I'd learn 1-2 more junglers, just in case you get bored of Snorewick.

also don't chase kills into the enemy forest.

EDIT: one last thing. do not think that having you on the team is hurting your team mates. Your team mates have not earned the right to have a better team mate than yourself. So they get what they deserve, no more no less.

RedTaoAug 20, 20161 votes

The weird thing about my situation is that Riot keeps giving me different responses. I have a few saying i'm doing fine, I have an overwhelming number of them telling me they're going to permaban me, those who're saying they're going to permaban me are all giving me different reasons why. Because of this I literally don't know what to do. There's no consensus among them.

I have to talk to team. Saying nothing does nothing to stop people getting banned. You can look at the boards and see that people are getting banned without having to say anything. I've been saying the same 2 things for almost a year, Apoligies and badmouthing myself, and it resulted in being considered good behavior. Despite this Riot is still saying i'm going to be permabanned even though half a year passed from my ban. Since they're all giving me different responses, i cant change my behavior or say anything different other than these 2 things. If I was able to mute myself from everyone elses chat i would, unfortunately there's no option to do that.

Queue dodging is a punishable offense. Considering Riot is threatening me with permaban 7 months after my last punishment, I'd rather not give them an excuse.