LF Coach to get out of Bronze

MalaceX··1 votes·879 views

I thought I had been improving my play, yet I'm still not able to win games consistently. I record most, if not all, of my games if that would be of help. Looking for a higher tier player open to giving me some long term guidance or advice. Message me here or add me in game: MalaceX. Thanks.

17 Comments

Spicay2 votes

I'll add you and spectate some games Malace.

Qwandee1 votes

oh you want guidance? you're in bronze. Well then here's how to get out of bronze and get into silver gold or platinum which are basically all just bronze anyways.

If you've ever seen the wizard of oz "Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!" Just change that to "Barons and Dragons and Towers, Oh My!" and repeat it about 2000 times. Then when you have the option to take free barons or dragons or towers oh my you dont chase someone into your death. Or when you can go for barons or dragons or towers oh my don't waste your time trying to setup ganks for a team full of shitties from a bad elo that have no idea how to make plays or recieve help. instead split push and take barons and dragons and towers ohmy.

MalaceX1 votes

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oh you want guidance? you're in bronze. Well then here's how to get out of bronze and get into silver gold or platinum which are basically all just bronze anyways.

If you've ever seen the wizard of oz "Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!" Just change that to "Barons and Dragons and Towers, Oh My!" and repeat it about 2000 times. Then when you have the option to take free barons or dragons or towers oh my you dont chase someone into your death. Or when you can go for barons or dragons or towers oh my don't waste your time trying to setup ganks for a team full of shitties from a bad elo that have no idea how to make plays or recieve help. instead split push and take barons and dragons and towers ohmy.

So that I understand, in Bronze I should split push and get objectives over team fighting?

Qwandee1 votes

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So that I understand, in Bronze I should split push and get objectives over team fighting?

correct. You should not team fight in any elo below like platinum unless you have some prior reasoning based on the gameplay to believe you actually have a decent player on your team in another damage carry role other than yours who will help you. Which is why duo queueing is better to climb because it gives you the option to carry teamfights. The only champions that can carry team fights in low elo are: Ezreal, Leblanc, Khazix, Katarina, and maybe Rengar if you're good at him but i dont suggest it cuz if you're bronze you're probably not good enough at rengar. Ezreal and Leblanc because they have no need to learn anything about positioning cuz they can basically blow someone up and escape from anything... khazix and kat cuz noone uses exhaust or anything properly in those elos so they dont cancel your shit.

Qwandee1 votes

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correct. You should not team fight in any elo below like platinum unless you have some prior reasoning based on the gameplay to believe you actually have a decent player on your team in another damage carry role other than yours who will help you. Which is why duo queueing is better to climb because it gives you the option to carry teamfights. The only champions that can carry team fights in low elo are: Ezreal, Leblanc, Khazix, Katarina, and maybe Rengar if you're good at him but i dont suggest it cuz if you're bronze you're probably not good enough at rengar. Ezreal and Leblanc because they have no need to learn anything about positioning cuz they can basically blow someone up and escape from anything... khazix and kat cuz noone uses exhaust or anything properly in those elos so they dont cancel your shit.

Also if you wanna get out of bronze and straight into gold really fast just play a really strong split pushing top laner or a really really op snowballing mid and get good at it.

My two suggestions are probably Tryndamere for top lane and Orianna for mid. Since Orianna if you're good at her and fed can one hit a whole team. Tryndamere low elo cant deal with because they have no prioritization of anything so they just let him run ragged.

MalaceX1 votes

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Also if you wanna get out of bronze and straight into gold really fast just play a really strong split pushing top laner or a really really op snowballing mid and get good at it.

My two suggestions are probably Tryndamere for top lane and Orianna for mid. Since Orianna if you're good at her and fed can one hit a whole team. Tryndamere low elo cant deal with because they have no prioritization of anything so they just let him run ragged.

Ok. Thank you. I'll practice Ezreal and Kha'Zik. I'll try to get better at Tryndamere. It has been hit or miss with him, but focusing on split pushing as you suggested should help a lot.

Qwandee1 votes

that troll ass advice should take you to at least silver.. possibly gold.. maybe even platinum who knows the skill cap changes by about 10% mechanically between bronze and plat anyways....

Plat and bronze the difference is literally: Barons > Dragons > Towers > Kills > Cs prioritization generally plats know Build paths that are at least half assed plats know Building based on your opposing champion maybe about 1/4th of plats know.... sadly.. Mechanics about 10% better than a bronze. (not even better just know more general stuff [freezing, slow pushing. wave momentum]) Ingame decision making, plats are probably equivalent too or worse than bronze... pathetically... Also plats ward more.

DJ Hatsune Miku1 votes

I'm a two time gold player who is quite knowledgeable on every role that isn't top lol. If you would like some more hands on coaching/instruction than, "Do this buy that ward there" and don't mind some critical judgement of your play/choices, I can help you out. I've made the silver climb twice, played in bronze, and like to think I'm pretty darn familiar with how to improve from that point.

Add me in game @ DJ Hatsune Miku if you'd like to play some normals 'n stuff.

MalaceX1 votes

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I'm a two time gold player who is quite knowledgeable on every role that isn't top lol. If you would like some more hands on coaching/instruction than, "Do this buy that ward there" and don't mind some critical judgement of your play/choices, I can help you out. I've made the silver climb twice, played in bronze, and like to think I'm pretty darn familiar with how to improve from that point.

Add me in game @ DJ Hatsune Miku if you'd like to play some normals 'n stuff.

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Zeu 1 votes

I'm a platinum solo que player with a bunch of plat/diamond team experience. I have also given lessons to friends in bronze and have analyzed and "coached" a plat level team earlier this season. Nothing impressive, but I definitely know how to raise your Elo. Have gotten 3 or 4 accounts from low bronze to at least gold V.

My question would be if there would be any compensation? Naturally giving time and service is something that is talked about. Also would have a few questions regarding how you would want to approach the teaching.

Add me if you want to talk. IGN: Zeusey

MalaceX1 votes

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I'm a platinum solo que player with a bunch of plat/diamond team experience. I have also given lessons to friends in bronze and have analyzed and "coached" a plat level team earlier this season. Nothing impressive, but I definitely know how to raise your Elo. Have gotten 3 or 4 accounts from low bronze to at least gold V.

My question would be if there would be any compensation? Naturally giving time and service is something that is talked about. Also would have a few questions regarding how you would want to approach the teaching.

Add me if you want to talk. IGN: Zeusey

I'll be direct: There is no compensation. As far as teaching, I am looking for a review or analysis of my play once every two or three weeks after our initial "coaching." I have moments where I go on win streaks, get promoted, then lose until I am eventually back where I started days later. I would like to know why this is happening continuously. Last season was my first full year and I sucked, but managed to get Bronze 3 several times, but couldn't win my promos for Bronze 2. This season, I have yet to stay in Bronze 4 for long. Adding you in game if you're interested in helping.

7Vightmares1 votes

I'm Bronze V and here is my advice

Get Lucky

I consistently have 20+kills around 10 deaths and around 10 assists every game with around 180 CS on average I consistently dominate and shut down my own lane

So why would I still be Bronze V?

Here's the answer...

1/10 Bronze players is a troll... so basically you have a 50% chance that troll is on your team of the 9 remaining 2/9 aren't very good and need carried so 22% of the champs (That aren't the troll) in game need baby sat Statistically ending up with all 3 of these players is unlikely, however, it happens and when it does that is an automatic loss. Oh and you also have to deal with the 16.5% chance that someone on your team will DC that game.

Figured out the math? Good! Now some times to avoid playing! at around 2-4pm for each time zone the little kiddies start to come home from school don't even try to play ranked at these times as your statistical chance of getting trolls and unskilled players increase exponentially Play late at night when the kiddies are sleeping because they have school or earlier in the day whenever they are at school.

On weekends try to play during the day rather than at night because there is a better chance the little kiddies are at home playing games at night.

Follow all these instructions and it still boils down to....

Get Lucky with your teammates...

Hope I helped!!!!!!!!

Dincht1 votes

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I'm Bronze V and here is my advice

Get Lucky

I consistently have 20+kills around 10 deaths and around 10 assists every game with around 180 CS on average I consistently dominate and shut down my own lane

So why would I still be Bronze V?

Here's the answer...

1/10 Bronze players is a troll... so basically you have a 50% chance that troll is on your team of the 9 remaining 2/9 aren't very good and need carried so 22% of the champs (That aren't the troll) in game need baby sat Statistically ending up with all 3 of these players is unlikely, however, it happens and when it does that is an automatic loss. Oh and you also have to deal with the 16.5% chance that someone on your team will DC that game.

Figured out the math? Good! Now some times to avoid playing! at around 2-4pm for each time zone the little kiddies start to come home from school don't even try to play ranked at these times as your statistical chance of getting trolls and unskilled players increase exponentially Play late at night when the kiddies are sleeping because they have school or earlier in the day whenever they are at school.

On weekends try to play during the day rather than at night because there is a better chance the little kiddies are at home playing games at night.

Follow all these instructions and it still boils down to....

Get Lucky with your teammates...

Hope I helped!!!!!!!!

When you dominate your lane, you should try to gank other lanes to help them snowball. I noticed that you're playing diana with teleport. So it should be easy for you to assist your other lanes. JS

7Vightmares1 votes

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When you dominate your lane, you should try to gank other lanes to help them snowball. I noticed that you're playing diana with teleport. So it should be easy for you to assist your other lanes. JS

I do... But ganking becomes babysitting to either A. bring my teammates back into game or B. shut down enemy who is 4/0 already. Thus causing me to lose XP and turrets in my lane.

Also when you gank a lane and you have players so bad (I.E. A Lux that refuses to go in and then misses her ult on the 150hp Heimer with no flash running away) all you end up doing is... nothing.

MalaceX1 votes

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I do... But ganking becomes babysitting to either A. bring my teammates back into game or B. shut down enemy who is 4/0 already. Thus causing me to lose XP and turrets in my lane.

Also when you gank a lane and you have players so bad (I.E. A Lux that refuses to go in and then misses her ult on the 150hp Heimer with no flash running away) all you end up doing is... nothing.

I agree completely. I noticed once I do get my tower and roam to help, the rest of my teammates simply just allow the enemy team to push my open tower. I've also noticed that there are a lot of junglers with poor map awareness. This easily makes most games/fights 4v5.

HeroSaitama1 votes

tryndamere is the best champ to climb to from bronze to gold. Step 1 have the right runes and masteries. Step 2 make sure to learn how to trade very important. Step 3 get 250+ cs before 30mins with a couple kills on your belt. step 4 split push all day until you win game.

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