18/10/19 Jungle regularly and still losing every match... Bronze hell

Mori420·Aug 9, 2016·1 votes·569 views

What gives, how the heck can one win games when scoring S three games in a row but losing every match?? HOW CAN I GET OUT OF ELO HELL?? :( I am constantly given teams who feed and push too far without wards and just in general SUCK at the game. Honestly, do I have to stop playing jungle? I cant get these people to snowball when they should be... I press every advantage.

Are there any teams out there looking for a decent amumu/warwick jungle Cait bot Lux mid?? :) willing to prove myself in a match with you.

Recently picked up amumu, had a few rough games but I regularly score S with him now

13 Comments

Mandie MooreAug 9, 20163 votes

KDA doesn't mean anything and if it does, you've died too much. Anything past 5 deaths is excessive. Looking at your match history, you're playing Amumu, Warwick, and Shyvana. All three are the best at 6. If you're as good as you say, you don't need these farm-til-six champs. You need to play early game champs and get those early ganks off to snowball those lanes. Lee Sin and Rek'sai are great and both can get down great wards. Also, as a jungler, you should always have sweeper - usually after the first back.

Mori420Aug 9, 20161 votes

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KDA doesn't mean anything and if it does, you've died too much. Anything past 5 deaths is excessive. Looking at your match history, you're playing Amumu, Warwick, and Shyvana. All three are the best at 6. If you're as good as you say, you don't need these farm-til-six champs. You need to play early game champs and get those early ganks off to snowball those lanes. Lee Sin and Rek'sai are great and both can get down great wards. Also, as a jungler, you should always have sweeper - usually after the first back.

Thank you.

I am "alright" i tend to do better than my team on average 3/4 times. i have a lot of bad games, last night and tonight have been excessively terrible. but I was just in B3 from b5 0 lp...

Thank you for the feedback.

JoJo NA Aug 9, 20161 votes

Letter score means jack shit. work on lowering that center number. thats it.

Mori420Aug 9, 20161 votes

I sacrifice myself a lot in position to get teams kills, hence the high number of Assist, but yes that is the #1 priority im working on at the moment. Thank you for the feedback.

JoJo NA Aug 9, 20161 votes

fuck sacrificing yourself. if youre given the option to not die or die. choose not die 100% of the time. not every fight has to result in team kills. this game is a lot about waiting for the right time. you dont get better by going all-in every team fight.

Votable JesterAug 9, 20161 votes

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fuck sacrificing yourself. if youre given the option to not die or die. choose not die 100% of the time. not every fight has to result in team kills. this game is a lot about waiting for the right time. you dont get better by going all-in every team fight.

There are times when it is best to die (blocking important skillshots for your adc for example). Now, I do agree that it is usually best not to die, but there are times when the option that gives the greatest likelihood of winning involves your own death.

suioyAug 9, 20161 votes

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There are times when it is best to die (blocking important skillshots for your adc for example). Now, I do agree that it is usually best not to die, but there are times when the option that gives the greatest likelihood of winning involves your own death.

Not true. If it results in your own death then blocking the skill shot for your adc is not important. It is up to your adc to position correctly and to have the ability to dodge skill shots. It is okay to die peeling for your adc as long as you are both dealing damage but if you are dying for free it is not worth it, especially as the jungler. If you die depending on how low your team is that is a free baron/drag for the enemy team because your team now no longer has smite.

Magical PlayerAug 9, 20161 votes

Kills do not = win objectives = win change the focus from killing enemies to taking objectives from them

Just my 2 cents also try finding a premade group to work with communication makes an average player, amazing and makes an amazing player, unstopable

so in light of that discord https://discord.gg/5zQYQkb

Mandie MooreAug 9, 20161 votes

No problem. I wish you luck. Also, you've only got 120 games in ranked. You don't know if you're where you're supposed to be unless you've played hundreds of games. Ignore how well/bad your teammates are doing. Focus on yourself. Don't look at your LP or match history. Just trust me on that one. I'm Diamond now but was Bronze at one point. ;)

suioyAug 9, 20161 votes

Well for one you play amumu and ww both of which are bad. Warwick is bad because he is just bad. Any champion who is only useful for their ult is not a good champ. Since devourer is gone every jungle even some off meta jungles outclass him. After mid game when the top, jungle, adc and the mid(if they are smart) have qss you are 100% useless. Amumu on the other hand is bad because he is a team fight/pick only jungle. He is bad at securing objectives, pushing, he isnt even good in the front line. He is more or less blitzcrank except you have to engage as opposed to pulling someone for a free kill. With him being nothing more than a bandage toss and ult he is heavily team reliant which means if your teams are bad as you say they are then amumu is 100% useless.

Play strong meta jungles if you want to climb. Go to champion.gg and look at the top 10 for jungles and then pick ones that are not team reliant. Go with hecarim, zac, kha'zix, volibear, gragas, sejuani, graves etc. These jungles are not only good for team fights but they are all(for the most part) strong early, easy to snowball lanes with, have strong gank potential which means you can snowball lanes, decent jungle clear and can go tank or damage depending on how fed you get and what your team needs. The rest is all about decision making. If you snowball early then your 1st item should almost always be a damage item to further snowball and then tank after(except on graves/kha obviously). Other than support imo jungle is the hardest role to play in bronze unless you play something that can hard carry.

ExpectatiOnzzAug 9, 20161 votes

Add me ill play with you for a bit s4

DeclinedAug 9, 20161 votes

Pick champions who can push towers. It doesn't matter if you score a penta, if your remaining team is sucking their thumbs killing red/blue/jungle leaving you unable to capitalize on your Ace simple because you can't push the towers on your own.