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Is there any hope to see ranked dominion and/or ranked ARAM in season 5?

GreenBeatle··10 votes·1,332 views

Because I'd really love to see that. I know many players that play mostly Dom and/ or ARAM and they're actually very skilled at it so it's a shame there is no ranked for such modes. Can we expect that for the future?

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Dr Easter5 votes

I never understood why people ask for ranked ARAM. It's clear a fun mode, everything is random, and everyone is in the same lane. It pretty much destroys any reason to have ranked. And with these snow balls it's even less "serious". Dominion on the other hand can have it. Having a good team comp, denying vision to the enemy, blocking the ways in the jungle to prevent them from get your towers (rather than sitting under the tower and showing them where you are -.-), ganking bot, back caping. Are all strategic moves. All what is needed to have ranked.

rtbf2216514122 votes

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I never understood why people ask for ranked ARAM. It's clear a fun mode, everything is random, and everyone is in the same lane. It pretty much destroys any reason to have ranked. And with these snow balls it's even less "serious".

Jack of all trades; master of none is better than Jack of one trade; master of one.

How you don't think using multiple champions requires no skill is beyond me. That, and the team composition requires you to rethink your item builds. There is a time to use pure AP Sona and a time for Mana regain/AP Sona. You also need to know who can initiate in your current team. That actually requires more intellectual thinking for strategic TEAM game play than you want to admit considering all the champions are random. The snowballs are not a permanent part, or were not part of ARAM for a long time.

Also, this 'random' is from your champion pool. It's your fault if you can't use the champions before going into ARAM.

Dr Easter3 votes

Never said using multiple champions requires no skill ;) That's not the point here. Having it all random destroys the reason for ranked ARAM. Some matches are lost or won due to this. Sometimes there is nothing you can do and this is what shouldn't be in ranked. In other modes if your team comp is poor, well, that's your fault since you can pick what you'll play. Oh yeah, that has nothing to do with champion poll. Again: sometimes there is nothing you can do due to the random nature of the mode. This shouldn't be in ranked. Just like the crit chances ;-) Well, the same senseless excuse people use to ask for ranked ARAM. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy that mode a lot. But adding ranked to this would make less than 0 sense. Nuff said.

rtbf2216514122 votes

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Never said using multiple champions requires no skill ;) That's not the point here. Having it all random destroys the reason for ranked ARAM. Some matches are lost or won due to this. Sometimes there is nothing you can do and this is what shouldn't be in ranked. In other modes if your team comp is poor, well, that's your fault since you can pick what you'll play. Oh yeah, that has nothing to do with champion poll. Again: sometimes there is nothing you can do due to the random nature of the mode. This shouldn't be in ranked. Just like the crit chances ;-) Well, the same senseless excuse people use to ask for ranked ARAM. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy that mode a lot. But adding ranked to this would make less than 0 sense. Nuff said.

No, you can't end it like that because you ignored the fact your item builds can change a support character into something dangerous.

Also, poker is random yet there is competitive poker. I can't believe you just tried to wash it away with the random aspect.

Dr Easter3 votes

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Also, poker is random yet there is competitive poker. I can't believe you just tried to wash it away with the random aspect.

Oh yes, I can end like that... especially after that You are the one not seeing things here. Oh well. It's over. Give up, you can also talk to yourself, but not here please, I don't want notifications for this. ;)

rtbf2216514121 votes

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Oh yes, I can end like that... especially after that You are the one not seeing things here. Oh well. It's over. Give up, you can also talk to yourself, but not here please, I don't want notifications for this. ;)

Okay, because someone in Europe definitely means a lot on a NA forum.

Chavez Obama4 votes

You have a better chance of winning the lottery at this point.

Minarde4 votes

Riot's most likely just going to refuse ranked Dominion again, citing "insufficient playerbase," and go back to waiting for the map to magically generate new players before doing anything.

Kholdstare132 votes

They know we all want it, which is exactly why they will never give it to us.

Fried Noob2 votes

You will probably never see ranked ARAM, and why would you want to? It's an entirely luck based mode (unless you make an ARAM account) that's suppose to be fun and not taken seriously. I will agree that dominion should have a Ranked queue.

Kalarepa2 votes

Ranked ARAM would require some changes. Entire champion pool opened for everyone is mandatory. And some system, that give you more points for wining on weak team comp and takes more points for losing on strong team comp. It would require some mad math with win rates.

xLyo2 votes

i would love aram only if we could pick champions and ban champions. cuz if enemy team gets sona or soraka, its most likely gg

HellMuff1 votes

Nope, they do not want people complaining about the balance on those maps, its partly why special game mods do not stay around for more then a week or two. Plus the more ranked scenes there are, the harder it is to que with similar skilled players in the actual 5v5 map.

SKOBODO1 votes

They've pretty much said that Dominion won't get ranked unless the playerbase drastically increases, which I think is unlikely to happen unless they do something to make Dominion more attractive to more players. So, no, no Dominion ranked anytime soon.

ARAM ranked? Eh, I wouldn't trust someone who got, say, Diamond in ARAM to be actually good at the game. For one thing, people could duo-queue with friends and have their friend dodge whenever they don't like the lineup. Sure, the friend's LP will be sucky, but you might gain some more wins thanks to it. I could spend more time arguing why I think ranked ARAM would be a bad idea, but I don't think it's worth my time at this point.

There are ARAM tournaments though. If you really like ARAM and know other people that really like ARAM, sign up for an ARAM tournament.

Dessim81 votes

Could we get draft ARDAM first?

It would make things balanced more than anything else. The ability to pick and choose will mitigate 'luck' factors.

Dessim81 votes

I still don't see why we can't have a less random version of this map first. I was under the assumption the big thing about the map was the All Mid part.

rtbf2216514121 votes

Howling Abyss Ranked =/= ARAM ranked.

Dessim81 votes

In poker, you are just as likely as anyone else to get good cards, and unlike Poker, you don't get a 15 minute penalty for trying to dodge/fold if you don't like what you're dealt. Trust me, I love playing the game and would make it my career, but as I said, making a draft based version of ARAM would remove luck altogether.

Kholdstare131 votes

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In poker, you are just as likely as anyone else to get good cards, and unlike Poker, you don't get a 15 minute penalty for trying to dodge/fold if you don't like what you're dealt. Trust me, I love playing the game and would make it my career, but as I said, making a draft based version of ARAM would remove luck altogether.

in poker you lose your ante if you fold, and everyone plays with the same deck.

That said, to balance ARAM all you need to do is open up the entire champion pool, and punish dodges with a loss counted against the dodger. It would become an actual measure of skill over a large number of games, since you would expect everyone to average out the same number of advantageous and disadvantageous games, leaving the deciding factor as skill.

Dessim81 votes

Wouldn't opening the pool be a monetary detriment to Riot's "sell you champions" philosophy?

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