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Why are pairs allowed in a Solo queue ranked?

KilikOdagawa·5/19/2015, 8:05:32 PM·7 votes·1,506 views

For a company that is trying its absolute best (as far as face value goes) to reduce the amount of toxicity in the game, why are you setting up players to suffer at the hands of two friends who can do no wrong in each others' eyes? Especially in ranked queues?

These are the same types of people that don't understand the concept of communication. The ones who only pay attention to their small little universes surrounding their role and hold you accountable for them not paying attention. You could use the smart pings for YEARS and they still won't quite understand that there is something going on outside their little box that the should be paying attention to. A vast majority of the games I've been in (ranked) that involved a duo, I have lost. Because what I believe is the tendency of the pair to cover each others backs, and put the full blame of the game on someone else, even if they had a fault in it somewhere.

I recently installed Curse Voice and whenever I get to verbally communicate with these people rather than type to them, things go better. But when I have a special pair with their own voice communication program that just doesn't want to include anyone else, it sets up the first wall that I've got to get over in order to be on a level playing field.

EDIT: Duo queues are found using Scouter sites, such as LolNexus, LoLMate, and LoLSkill TL;DR

Duo queue ranked raises toxicity in that queue and I feel this should actually be looked into.

33 Comments

Deep Terror Nami5/19/2015, 8:07:06 PM4 votes

Most duos you probably don't even realize they are queued together. If they are toxic, report them and let the system take care of them; they are not getting any sort of preferential report immunity.

IcyPepper5/19/2015, 8:46:52 PM4 votes

A vast majority of the games I've been in (ranked) that involved a duo, I have lost.

Are you sure? Not a lot of duos are vocal about it for the obvious reasons, and some of the vocal duos say so to get their roles.

For all you know, every game could have involved a duo and they just never told you.

Sukishoo5/19/2015, 8:38:34 PM4 votes

Most MOBAs have a Duo in Solo queue... get used to it. Should check out Heroes of the Storm, they allow ALL types of queues in ranked from 1-5.. so you could queue with 4 people and it's still called "solo" lol.

KilikOdagawa5/19/2015, 8:18:02 PM3 votes

How duos are unaware they're queued together I'll never understand. I understand they don't have report immunity, but PREVENTING the queue from happening would reduce overall toxicity in the queue.

Xonra5/19/2015, 8:44:09 PM2 votes

Sure most mobas have duos in solo queue, but they shouldn't, is the point.

I am going into solo queue - not duo queue

As the op, I use sites or programs that show me when people are duoing, and probably 99% of my games do not have a duo, and the ones that do tend to go poorly as the duo is either bot, or mid jungle.

Usually the bot does terrible or keeps others from going bot when they are last pick, or the jungle only ever ganks his buddy, and that is rarely not the case.

I don't mind having some duos if they are there to play with the team, but I don't like the idea of being forced to go in solo and be put with two people that can easily make the game worse when 2 out of 5 is a high percentage in this game. I just don't see a reason there should be duos in ranked by default, instead of an option to opt out of queueing up with any duo group.

If you want to play with friends, either a) play in team builder or b) start a 5s team.

I do and have done both, I don't duo with my friends in ranked, and vice versa.

Mandang05/19/2015, 8:40:04 PM2 votes

Riot should still allow duos to play ranked, but they should give solo players the option of a solo-only queue. You'd have better matchmaking, fewer fights over lanes (don't have the last pick duo member asking to lane w/ their friend when you want that lane), and you'd never need to wonder whether you're laning against the s5 member of the duo or the g1 member.

Xonra5/19/2015, 8:50:51 PM1 votes

Too many babies who can't stand someone disagreeing with them in here and just downvoting with no response. Someone downvoting on multiple accounts too lol

You guys are sad.

Tsunday5/20/2015, 2:29:55 AM1 votes

Botlane is actually a lot easier if you duo queue. Since each adc/support reacts to things differently voice communication is not only more efficient but finding a partner who thinks like you or synergizes with your champion pool significantly increases your chances of winning. One of my closest friends hit Diamond 5 during preseason as someone who was a Diamond level support, claimed to be a plat level ADC, and fed at mid/top/jungle. I remember asking him for advice at one point and he said "find a duo partner and stick to them. If you learn how your ADC plays and you can support tp their playstyle you'll win botlane more often than not". I honestly think it's good advice.

The biggest problem with duo queue is really the "duo bot" groups where they don't main botlane but are calling botlane because it's the duo lane and they are a duo.

I honestly don't think that a duo queue raises toxicity otherwise though. Maybe it's because I'm not a toxic person, I consider myself an overly optimistic/positive player in 95% of my games and I refuse to duo with anybody who rages but even when I give up my main (support) and my second main (adc) to a duo I almost never have a duo that is toxic or unhelpful whether they feed or carry. I think you just have bad luck with duos.