The First Step to Competitive ARAM

Savayaa·Sep 25, 2015·6 votes·1,287 views

Honestly I've been playing Aram for awhile now. And I love the mode. What would be the step into trying to make it competitive/tournament play. Hopefully this page gets looked at and isn't over shadowed because there is a lot of people that play Aram. I've recently feel like I've reached to the top because majority of all my games are now hosted and I keep playing with people that are up there too. Every game is good I see the skills in every player and would like to see more out of me and the thousand of other players that play Aram as well. Would love to see rankings and tournament play for Aram. I guess this is the first step. So show your support if you would like to see rankings and tournament play so maybe we can get this going!

I support!

17 Comments

ZielmannSep 25, 20153 votes

Step 1: Open up the whole pool for ranked ARAM Step 2: Remove individual RRs and allow for a team-wide RR for ranked

I think these two steps go a long way toward putting the game on an even footing. I don't expect balance out of ARAM, but I think a fair, even playing field is the proper way to do this.

Maximum MordeSep 25, 20153 votes

I voted yes, but only on condition that rerolls are gone, all champs opened, and bans are implemented.

IlyaK1986Sep 25, 20153 votes

Already play in ARAM tournaments. Have won 4000 RP so far ^_^. There IS a method to the madness. It isn't "oh it's just ARAM". There are ways to win. Yes, you can get hosed by the RNG, but that's the breaks. But these days, it's not as simple as "oh they got Ziggs/Kog/Sona/Galio, they win". Snowball + warmogs makes a lot of games a lot closer than they would be otherwise. Worst to worst, you go health/level yellows, start off tanky item (sunfire/randuins/dead man's plate/banshees/locket/visage), Black Cleaver/Titanic Hydra, or RoA into warmogs, and just clear waves. The only way you can be well and truly screwed is if you have so little waveclear that your towers first 2 turrets go down in 10 minutes.

Koraji yoOct 4, 20151 votes

I feel like more than the old "they got Ziggs\Kog\etc, they win", it's "they got Wuk\Garen\Tanky high damage guy... that with snowball... they win". The power just shifted from poke heavy, and was given to those tankier champions who have tons of damage, since their normal weakness of lacking appropriate gap closers are covered by the new Summoner mark.

IlyaK1986Oct 4, 20152 votes

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I feel like more than the old "they got Ziggs\Kog\etc, they win", it's "they got Wuk\Garen\Tanky high damage guy... that with snowball... they win". The power just shifted from poke heavy, and was given to those tankier champions who have tons of damage, since their normal weakness of lacking appropriate gap closers are covered by the new Summoner mark.

This is more the exception than the rule. It's just that a kog, Jayce, Sona, Ziggs, or Varus is no longer a free win, and that comps matter now that some melees can abuse snowball, and quite a few melees can be a pain in the ass with one damage item + snowball.

That said, if the other team gets a melee champ with amazing engage abilities (Alistar, Amumu, Wukong), then yeah, you're gonna be in some hurt.

The biggest bomb on ARAM, though, is the champion that has everything you want for ARAM--waveclear, sustain, bomb engage, and poke. Namely, Galio. That said, Garen and Darius, while annoying, aren't the be-all-end-all. I'm still far more scared of poke champions that can keep punishing you if you miss a snowball, or the Galio that can hard engage on you to press an advantage, or waveclear like crazy to stall out a game in which his team somehow doesn't.

Nevertheless, there's quite a large pool of champions that can work so long as the comp isn't just ridiculously bad.

Dessim8Oct 5, 20151 votes

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This is more the exception than the rule. It's just that a kog, Jayce, Sona, Ziggs, or Varus is no longer a free win,

It never was? Seriouly, you get to lategame and build tanky, they blow their load and then you kill them!

People with a give up/don't give a shit attitude need to leave... into a volcano.

InphernalSep 25, 20152 votes

Stop trying to make the fun game modes competetive. Just more reasons for people to yell at their teammates

SavayaaSep 25, 20152 votes

It will always be Fun, but most people that play games in general no matter what it is or label as just a "Fun mode" will take it competitive to some aspect. Play with your friends, they wont yell at you? I haven't came across many people that has yelled at their teammates for a mistake or anything really. That's what the mute button is for also. Learn to not take offense to what someone is saying

Kholdstare13Sep 25, 20152 votes

No.

Step 1 is to get ranked Dominion settled and fully supported as the actual competitive mode of the game.

Then we get normals ARAM balanced with:

A new champion select system, (full pool is only one option for a balanced version of this)

Dodge penalty revamp: MMR loss for dodging Penalty applies against time spent logged in. Penalty decay only over a number of completed games, not free daily reset.

And then we can look into getting it more competitive. Tournaments would need to be large round-robin with many games per set tho. Elimination is a no-go for ARAM. Even after the balancing, the only measure of skill is consistency over large numbers of games. You need a big enough sample for the randomness to even out.

Poorly DressedSep 25, 20151 votes

I think it would need a bit of additional balancing to make the mode fair. Soraka (just an example) usually heals for what others do in damage. Some champs need serious addressing to make the mode at least a bit balanced. I have played 1500+ games of ARAM. Would play a competitive mode though :D

SavayaaSep 25, 20151 votes

The mode is fair. I can tell you the few things most people would point out.

Poke comp vs non poke comp
Getting a champ that excels well in aram over others
the sustain from some champs. All beatable, EVERY game is win-able. I've been on a team full of just poke champs and went against a tanky team with engage, they whooped us. And vice versa, so every matchup you get is win-able, just need to play correctly. I've literally seen it all and done it all. EVERY comp can win, all comes down to how you guys execute plays and work together as a team.

Poorly DressedSep 26, 20151 votes

I do agree with you, dont get me wrong! Though, I'm really sure the higher you climb in a competitive ARAM the less champions are viable. like on any other map :)

UteOct 3, 20151 votes

I find it to be a bit different. In high MMR aram games a lot of champs are viable, not less. People learn how to counter the simple poke+win strat pretty fast.

RendarkanSep 28, 20151 votes

The best matches happen when everyone gets a melee champ. It goes from gunfight to mideval warfare.

BixitsSep 25, 20151 votes

This would be great, half my friends mostly only play ARAMS now.

Dessim8Oct 3, 20151 votes

I still don't see how you can have a fair, balanced non-luck based ELO with a random factor.

Remember when Tabi's had a % based evade and that was considered uncompetitive because of luck factor? Anyone?!

Koraji yoOct 4, 20151 votes

I feel like it'd need to be rebalanced again. Right now Aram is balanced in such a way as to give the stronger comp an easier time closing out the game. This was done by adding the 4 HP buffs, one of which is easily stolen if your team's early comp is strong enough. The nexus and inhib towers also have no HP regen at all, making it much easier to win the game over time. For awhile they even removed one of the Nexus towers. Right now the game mode heavily favors the team with the strongest early game, I feel it'd need better balancing for it to be more competitively viable.

Ofcourse maybe Mark does a lot to balance that out now since the old early weaks were the team's that benefited the most from Mark.