Add a "For Fun" Game Mode?

Treequil·Oct 29, 2014·5 votes·2,168 views

So, some of my friends just started playing LoL. The problem? I'm level 25, and they're not yet over level 10, yet they also have some level 30 friends. (Which is probably the quickest way to ever kill a new game for someone, play with or against a 30.) So after a few custome matches the newer ones were fairly annoyed at the level 30s, since the gap between 30 and 29 is huge enough as we all know... Try 5 and 30... Really becomes no fun... And then I realized, "Oh, no... In just 5 levels I'll be taking all the fun out of this game for my friends too! D: ", and as much as I really wanna buy stuff, that fear is really why I don't, so this all made me thinking...

"What if there was a game mode that didn't use Masteries, Runes, etc? Where levels didn't even matter." Thus I am here, to request such a game mode. Not all of us are into the "Hardcore Ranked" gameplay, and I think I'd have a lot more fun if I could have a pure match of fun instead of getting pummeled by the occasional 30 with amazing runes, or having them carry the entire AI match from start to finish while 4 of us do nothing... I'd also be a lot more likely to spend since even if I'm not good with a character, I can still have fun playing in with friends playing in an awesome skin (whereas at my current level, I get repeatedly yelled at for not being "ubersuperduberpropro" with that character when I use cool skins). >.>

So, basically I was thinking, maybe there could be a "For Fun" button next to "Play Now", or something that would allow us the normal map options, minus the Masteries, Runes, and any other thing that Level grants. Preferably it would still give IP and EXP so you could have fun leveling your friends and training in a non-lvl-30-rofl-stomp environment. Hopefully you could get IP for use on champions still. ("For Fun" would allow both PvP and PvAI, to add the most variety for the fun, also they wouldn't interfere with normal ranked stuff.) For Fun mode would NOT be custom mode, though it could perhaps be added as a setting in Custom as well. Since Custom Mode still uses levels, masteries, runes, etc. you still have the 'lvl-30-rofl-stomp' effect, so I'd really hope this would be a separate button but still give IP and EXP, but will not affect ranking at all. (To be honest, really hardcore players could use it as a "True test of skill" since Masteries and Runes are out, it'd purely be skill, not settings.) AND it would also filter out the people playing for fun in your training for league play... (Bonus for you hardcore players? ;D )

If this got added I'd honestly probably never stop playing this game, since I love League, I just really don't like how horridly it does the whole "playing with friends" bit... x.x;

30 Comments

Matthias9119Oct 29, 20142 votes

The problem with a "casual" or "laid-back" or "fun" queue is that frustrated Ranked players or skilled trolls will deliberately join it to stomp new/bad players. Not having runes/masteries will not stop them from being able to destroy someone who's only played a handful of games.

You mentioned people going into AI matches to "comp stomp" as being un-fun as well. People ALREADY go into beginner bots to rack up more kills than Intermediate, despite getting less IP for doing so. They'll do it in that mode too if it means they get weaker teammates and can get even more kills.

ZekromEXOct 29, 20141 votes

it's called normals man xD

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

it's called normals man xD

I'll take it you've never played normals with a level 5 when you're 25 or 30 then. Normals is not what I'm talking about. I want a mode where level means squat (sorry normal), so I can actually play on even footing with my new friends who are plenty good, they just aren't 25 or 30 yet. .-.

Pvt Yong TaiOct 29, 20141 votes

Normals is all you're getting, bud. If you aren't having fun when playing with friends, regardless of their rank, you're queuing with the wrong attitude. You cannot expect to win with the level discrepancy. In fact, expect to lose and have fun while still keeping that in mind.

Oh yeah EDIT: downvoting everyone with whom you disagree with is pretty shitty. Fat chance I'll be happy to help you next time.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

Normals is all you're getting, bud. If you aren't having fun when playing with friends, regardless of their rank, you're queuing with the wrong attitude. You cannot expect to win with the level discrepancy. In fact, expect to lose and have fun while still keeping that in mind.

Oh yeah EDIT: downvoting everyone with whom you disagree with is pretty shitty. Fat chance I'll be happy to help you next time.

I haven't down voted people, I don't think... :o If I had it was due to their attitudes, please don't be rude right off the bat. n.n;

You shouldn't assume either, it's not because of losing (I have a good time losing)... But I was playing with my little sis (she's fine losing too) and I could just see her lose interest and get fairly disappointed as she'd get smushed even though with the items and skills and capability, her and her opponent were even, but with runes and masteries, she stood no chance. I just want her to have fun, that's why I came here. To the forums. Literally the furthest thing from fun, I absolutely hate forums, people always lash at the smallest things, forums suck... But I'm doing it just on the off-chance Riot sees this so my little sister has fun. Even if I never play again after getting blasted by some of the rude comments I get for submitting my idea, I just want her to have fun with her friends... But whatever, I guess that shouldn't matter... Thank you for leaving such a great impression of the LoL community on me. n.n

KzooCrasherOct 29, 20141 votes

Dominion Aram we have screw around just fun modes already

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

Dominion Aram we have screw around just fun modes already

Please read before commenting. I explained what I would like fairly well; a mode where levels don't matter and neither runes nor masteries are active. >.>;

Even in ARAM, you can tell the 30s of the groups just because their masteries and runes overpower everything that isn't level 30. Even an extremely skilled level 5 doesn't stand a chance to a noob 30 with good runes. It's not balanced for varying levels even if they're "Fun" for those of you who go through obliterating every non-30. .-.

KzooCrasherOct 29, 20141 votes

That's not true at all. I was playing on my lower level account like level 11 I didn't even have flash and I was still competing with silvers and golds. Once you get your first item its not even noticeable. Believe it or not I did read your thread and aram fits your needs perfectly.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

That's not true at all. I was playing on my lower level account like level 11 I didn't even have flash and I was still competing with silvers and golds. Once you get your first item its not even noticeable. Believe it or not I did read your thread and aram fits your needs perfectly.

Not really... I would really like to be able to buy skins and use them in a level free setting. .-. (They add new modes all the time, wouldn't this be fine? I don't understand why everyone's against it. q.q)

Yeah, you compete with silvers and golds, doesn't mean your much of a challenge, I don't just mean fun, I want to be balanced with my new friends, since not having an unequal footing is usually more fun than having the level 30 carry the whole team with a Support doing more damage than our well-specced DPSs do simply due to runes+Masteries. x.x

KzooCrasherOct 29, 20141 votes

You can play aram with your friends and use your skins.... FYI no support is out damaging a solo laner just because of 20 ap from runes.... they don't make nearly as much of a difference as you are making them out to be. I know I am against this game mode idea because it takes everything you earn while leveling and says OK none of this matters. I'm sorry you aren't willing to stop using your skins for a few games to play with friends but that sounds like a personal problem not a game problem.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

You can play aram with your friends and use your skins.... FYI no support is out damaging a solo laner just because of 20 ap from runes.... they don't make nearly as much of a difference as you are making them out to be. I know I am against this game mode idea because it takes everything you earn while leveling and says OK none of this matters. I'm sorry you aren't willing to stop using your skins for a few games to play with friends but that sounds like a personal problem not a game problem.

sigh I haven't used any skins, I've only bought 1 because I've dreaded the day when I hit 30. And +20% Cooldown reduction is nothing? +20% Attack Speed is also nothing? Wow, neat, that's what a lot of items do isn't it...? Okay, I'll stop being sarcastic there. Sorry. But the 'constant against' gets to me... o.o; So I guess the only option is to tell all of my friends friends to make new accounts and do the same? (Or just find a new game that's half as good as LoL?) q.q

SukishooOct 29, 20141 votes

That's not true at all. I can go on a smurf and wreck without any runes/masteries. You just need to understand the game and you can do quite well without those. Try playing the MOBA, SMITE: Battleground of the Gods, that teaches you how to survive without the need of Runes/Masteries because they use neither (even at level 30)

Pvt Yong TaiOct 29, 20141 votes

They're level 5. Make a new account?

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

They're level 5. Make a new account?

Then why would I ever buy any skins? What about my current skins and characters? I don't suddenly get those on my new account do I? Also making a new account is against the ToS, just fyi. o,,o

KzooCrasherOct 29, 20141 votes

Seeing as they literally celebrate the pros for having multiple accounts I don't think it is or if it is its not enforced so your in the clear.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

"Then why would I ever buy any skins? What about my current skins and characters? I don't suddenly get those on my new account do I?" >.>

SukishooOct 29, 20141 votes

LOL. Against the ToS... many people have multiple accounts. It's not at all against the ToS. If it were, there'd be so many less people in this game

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

LOL. Against the ToS... many people have multiple accounts. It's not at all against the ToS.

Okay, I get it, I got that part wrong, but I still have half a valid argument that nobody's commented on... q.q

Pvt Yong TaiOct 29, 20141 votes

Play with them on the smurf account until they reach an appropriate level for your main, then switch.

And I'm pretty sure it's not, or it's not enforced. Riot representatives have explicitly said before that smurfing is okay.
I personally have about 9 accounts, and each one brought anywhere from 2 to 7 new players to the game. In total I've personally introduced or tutored about 40 people in League of Legends. Against the ToS? Maybe. Against Riot's interest? Certainly not so.

If you wanna play with your skins and look cool rather than play on your friends' skill levels, that's fine. None of my business, just giving you a suggestion.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

Play with them on the smurf account until they reach an appropriate level for your main, then switch.

And I'm pretty sure it's not, or it's not enforced. Riot representatives have explicitly said before that smurfing is okay.
I personally have about 9 accounts, and each one brought anywhere from 2 to 7 new players to the game. In total I've personally introduced or tutored about 40 people in League of Legends. Against the ToS? Maybe. Against Riot's interest? Certainly not so.

If you wanna play with your skins and look cool rather than play on your friends' skill levels, that's fine. None of my business, just giving you a suggestion.

Literally I say one wrong thing in text while quick replying, and bamo grief... I don't care about my champs or skins, I just don't want that to be the only option for my friends when they invite new people to the game. q.q

That's literally saying to them "Oh, yeah, work as hard as you want on that account, but as soon as you invite a new friend you gotta make a new account and not play with any of it for a while whilst you level up your friends." I don't like saying stuff like that to people, it's kinda mean... q.q

Pvt Yong TaiOct 29, 20141 votes

You take things too personally. I haven't said anything directly mean to you yet you're q.qing all over your post.
If your little sister loses interest from not having the skills to play the basics of the game properly, then she's simply not interested. Maybe put her up against intro bots?

Runes and mastery bonuses are nominal. They are not a big enough difference to make the difference between getting crushed and doing well (except in jungling, but that's probably not the case)

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

I'm upset because I just said an idea and half the people commenting are being mean, I thought the community here would be more like the people I meet when playing, who are 99% of the time nice... q.q

But if they're really nominal then what's wrong with the game idea? x.x;

Pvt Yong TaiOct 29, 20141 votes

nominal, as in they're small differences. A game mode specific to removing these small differences would not make much of a difference in play, would serve only to further split queues resulting in longer wait times, and is in no interest of Riot's because it's another big project for release with little to no corporate gains.

People are giving you advice and it's simply advice you don't want to hear. Honestly making a new account is not that hard. They are level 5 so you will be pretty much at their level. 2 games (1 tutorial 1 beginner bot game) and you're already level 3.

Franz StanglOct 29, 20141 votes

Normals is the laidback "fun" queue. keep your fun to normals, and your business in ranked. that's how i go about it anyway.

RainleinOct 29, 20141 votes

I'm not sure what's stopping you from using a blank rune page and a blank mastery page in custom games and play with your friends o_o....... You don't need a new account and you can still use your skins. Your friends just won't have flash for a while and you can very much just take whatever summoner spells that are available to you at whatever level you want to pretend to be. Problem solved?

The true difference is your skill level. When I first started playing, beginner bots roflstomped me and I had 9 or 10 deaths per game in my first week. Now I can 30+/0/x beginner bots on a level 5 account with no runes or masteries. I honestly think you are looking in the wrong places for a solution to your specific situation lol.

TreequilOct 29, 20141 votes

I was actually doing that, but then we get paired with another highbee with everything equipped and the +20AP in the beginning is enough for most mages to squish starting sets. (Since that's usually what happened when I used my runes and masteries, wasn't as much fun... x.x) But it seems the best thing to do is really to make a new account for every friend I invite. But then won't I have like, 24 accounts by the time they're all ranked? xD I think I'm gonna need more emails... >.>;

RainleinOct 29, 20141 votes

You don't really need to, depending on how often your friends play with each other and by themselves. I recruited maybe 4 new accounts and I made 1 new account to play with them. Right now they are all level 20 ish and my smurf is only level 8 because after a while, my friends were confident enough to play with each other and queue without me so they can get matched with people just like them.

koalaknightOct 29, 20141 votes

Well, runes and masteries will give some noticeable advantage to people with access to tier 3 runes, but as others have mentioned, skill level difference will play far more of a role. There is a lot of things to learn in League, and smurf accounts are able to dominate even without any runes and mastery. If you have this "For Fun" mode, the level 30 players will probably crush the new players, unless the game mode makes it much more difficult for the veteran players with, say less gold per CS (with more passive gold generation for newer player), no wards (while low level players get more vision), and so on. Could be an interesting mode, but without the handicap, the skill difference will just be too great to make it not very fun for everyone involved (unless the veteran players enjoy stomping newer players... which will probably be what most people play the mode for).

I guess Doombots probably would have been a great mode to play with new players (well, at least level 1 doom bot). There is always bot matches to help new players get used to the game.

And if you really want to play with newer players, making a smurf account is probably the best option... yeah, you won't have as many champions and will probably be limited to free champion rotation ones + the three free ones, but it will probably be a much nicer experience than playing on our main account and getting into matches that are strangely balanced. But it will only be temporary, and if your friends like the game enough, it won't take them too long to level up to 30.

Lady of HresvelgOct 29, 20141 votes

The Problem is, that it wont help you if the lvl 30 player cant use his masteries and runes. He's still WAY more experienced than you and your friends and will crush you anyway.

LoL is one of the games where matchmaking works almost all of the time, leave it at that.

And i created a NEW ACCOUNT, ONLY FOR THE GAMES I DID WITH MY FRIEND UNTIL HE WAS LVL 30, THAT WAS CERTAINLY NO PROBLEM.