What say Ranked ARAM?

Crazymanboy··6 votes·1,571 views

Hello fellow ARAM players!

Me and my wife play ARAM all the time. However, the only way to achieve a ranked title is by playing SR or TT. ARAM takes a different kind of skill to play. Not any old SR player can play ARAM. I believe that people should not be limited to only 2 maps to be able to get ranked status.

What do you all think?

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38 Comments

Lululoopsy3 votes

Wish riot would seriously do this!

Crazymanboy2 votes

For sure, I think Riot would have much more traffic on their game if they made more modes of the game more competitive.

FDru1 votes

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For sure, I think Riot would have much more traffic on their game if they made more modes of the game more competitive.

It would, but Riot doesn't want anybody playing other maps than SR. So even if 2 million more players showed up tomorrow, if 1/5th of the SR population started playing other maps then Riot marketing would lose their shit.

Major Sparkles2 votes

ranked play for ARAM doesn't make any sense.

Crazymanboy2 votes

Why wouldn't it?

Kivolan1 votes

Issues of people only making accounts with champions they're good at playing. The randomization just doesn't make sense for ranked.

Crazymanboy2 votes

People already make new accounts and buy champions they are good at. The thing about ARAM is that you have to be able to play against all odds. You wont get to choose who you are going to be, which scares a lot of people who only know how to ADC or Mid or whatever. This Mode can go ranked and I think it would be good, maybe even make people better in other modes,

Major Sparkles1 votes

Ranked ARAM doesn't make sense because it becomes a game of chance rather than a game of counter play. Even if all champions were available it would be frustrating to try to climb. Think people complain about elo hell now? Add a dash of randomness the and QQ would never end. To have ranked play you must have a constant and control and ARAM provides neither.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

It could be argued that more chance in lobby=more skill in game. As long as steps are taken to make sure extreme examples of abuse are prevented imo who are you to say its not worth playing? No one is asking for a ton of resources or demanding both ranked AND balanced ARAM. The fact that people are asking means they want to play it for their own reasons. Are you really gonna try to convince someone their favorite color is not what they think it is?

Look at it this way. I play only aram. If there was ranked aram I would only play that. If I had been playing ranked ARAM this whole time and had not only a rank but a rank to try and achieve, I would be a much more engaged and satisfied gamer. This outcome is undisputably good. The questions that matter are would it take too many resources and would it turn into a truly toxic cesspool.

You wanting to play it or not is irrelevant to everyone but you.

Leblancs Boob2 votes

ARAM is entirely luck based. You can have a stacked team full of high elo players but if their team lacks poke/sustain/etc, it doesn't matter how good they are if the enemy team has a better ARAM comp. Also you will have ARAM only accounts rampaging through games using only Sona, Janna, Xerath, Jayce, Fiddlesticks, etc.

It isn't a bad idea but there needs to be adjustments to make it fair. For starters all champions need to be available so everyone has an even chance of getting each champion.

Crazymanboy2 votes

I have played many games where it seems like it would be impossible to win, however if everyone knows how to play their champ you can come back from a rough start. Its like that in any game mode.

That would be one idea but I don't think its a must because of the free rotation. To even play aram you have to have more than a few champions. If there are 10 players in total, with the free rotaion, all of the champions should be available.

Only Play Darius1 votes

I get the feeling you have never rolled Skarner ARAM.

There are some champions (usually junglers) that do all of their damage strictly at close range. They are designed to flank around in order to get close and do their damage. These champs are miserable to play in ARAM because there is literally no opportunity to flank, hence why ARAM will never be considered a fair or competitive game mode.

ARAM is a fun game mode good for de-stressing, let's try not to make it any more than that.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

Im calling you noob straight up. Not in an insult way, just a factual one.

There are plenty of comps that STOMP poke comps so hard the poke comp is on allchat talking about how op that 4 tank+1 sustain comp is and how they never stood a chance.

It is undeniable that some comps counter others and there will be games which are very one sided. Is that any different than on SR?

Sukishoo2 votes

LOL NO.

Crazymanboy2 votes

Not everone has 60-90 minutes to play a ranked game. I love ARAM and I know a lot of people who only play ARAM. There are no less reasons ARAM should't be able to be ranked as SR and TT. Randomness is scary, but it takes skill to over come it.

97DarkShadow2 votes

I love this idea! I play ARAM all the time, and they already have a rank for twisted treeline. WHY NOT MAKE IT FOR ARAM! I give this 11/10

Crazymanboy2 votes

Thank you for your input! I feel the same!

vC48YNoGbJ1 votes

ARAM, as it is, is (by definition) far too dependent on luck. There is no real solution to this either, even if it were to be draft 5v5 on the Howling Abyss, since a TON of champions would be overcentralized/pick or ban status. The nerfs to balance them all would be incredibly time intensive and I don't think many people in general feel they want a ranked ARAM status anyways.

Crazymanboy2 votes

But thats the thing, ARAM is not just all about luck. People think that because they get champs they do not know how to play. The only luck is if you are going to get a champ you like or not. The thing about ARAM is knowing how to play any champion and being able to initiate properly. Riot does a swell job on the balance of champs. Any 5v5 works in ARAM.

Only Play Darius1 votes

First time I ever played Vel'Koz was on ARAM, went 17/3

First time I ever played Caitlyn was on ARAM, went 23/4

First time in a long time I played Kog'Maw, was on ARAM, went 28/7

I am experienced with both Skarner and Rek'Sai, could never get better than a 0.5 kd on ARAM with them.

Sorry but ARAM is luck, trying to make a luck-based game competitive is going to lead to more rage then is already on SR.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

So do you think those things you said mean that poke champs are OP in aram? I already explained that there are plenty of comps which stomp poke comps. If not early game then later on. So the job of the stomp comp is to not feed and get to late game while dodging poke and such things as are involved inplaying this game. The poke comp tries to abuse their poke and get rolling out of control. This seems like a real game, with real strats and real potential for victory or loss in most situations.

If you think a high kd ratio is the measure of your success I would say you don't know what you are talking about.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

No, ARAM by definition is randomish champ select. The game itself would only appear random to someone who doesn't understand what they are seeing.

OhOkYea1 votes

Everyone would just make a new account and only buy champs that are OP in aram

Crazymanboy2 votes

Every champ has more than one counter. If you know how to use and fight against that champ then you will be good. Its a fast paced team fight to the death that relies on how well you know your champ and how will you know how to fight theirs. Even with an OP champ, which SR has as well not just ARAM, you have counters.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

What is your point? You claim it will be everyone and that sounds as fair as it gets in this life.

OhOkYea1 votes

Everyone meaning the people that actually have nothing better to do but level up multiple accounts for things like this. The people that can't play 16 hours a day will once again get shafted.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

You know this is possible and a fair point to bring up. I believe that the only situation where this would make a significant difference is teams of such smurfs. I envision teams where each person has an account with nothing but adcs, another nothing but tanks, another apcs...you see where im going. I cannot get overly upset at a smurf account getting varus because thats the only unlocked champ and his odds are better of getting him. What would be game breaking are smurf strats that accomplish specific team comps, or at least put the odds extremely in their favor. Then that becomes the meta and you are right, that doesnt sound fun.

A simple solution, have only solo q. No premade teams.

OhOkYea1 votes

simple solution

Riot

Pick one

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

I respect your opinion of riot but its a little beyond this discussion.

OhOkYea1 votes

I had nothing else to say

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

I have a ton of respect for honesty.

Im gonna go be honest right now as a matter of fact, passing it forward=)

Imbajoe1 votes

Adding another criticism I didn't see anyone else make, ARAM queue already takes quite a bit of time, 3-6 minute queue times seem to be the average. I imagine splitting up the ARAM playerbase would only add to this

Crazymanboy1 votes

Hmm, I never had a 6 minute queue time in ARAM. The average for me has been around 1 minute.

Dr Jarjarbinks1 votes

I play only aram and I would say average time to get a lobby is between 30 and 120 secs.

If Im being honest though I have to include the number of lobbies that end with a dodge, which is high enough for me to have written angry posts about it.

Sometimes I get a few games in a row that get through lobby and start. Followed by 4 dodge lobbies. Its a real problem and it may get worse with higher stakes.

Miku Lv991 votes

Everyone would dodge so much whenever they didn't think the had a good set of champions on their team. I like the idea, but it'd probably end up being virtually unplayed since unranked ARAM would be considered mostly the same thing but you could get into games a lot faster and with fewer dodges.

Only Play Darius1 votes

No.

Can't wait to roll someone like Skarner Udyr RekSai and lose LP because I am fighting a team consisting of Velkoz Fiddlesticks Caitlyn Nidalee Blitzcrank.

Not to mention getting reported by my entire team because i'm the only one with no poke yet i am supposed to be somehow doing well in ARAM.

Sorry but so long as ARAM stays random, ranked will NEVER happen.

Mr Tumnus1 votes

Hi there, My names Mr Tumnus and I'm not quite sure what to say as my thoughts, I mean I think its a great idea, but being completely honest I feel like quite a few people against it have made valid points, and you have to remember that this mode wouldn't have existed without people populating an amazing unexistant game mode in customs. I think there is only so far you can take something and there would be too many flaws to make it a clean competitive mode. I do however Believe that Dominion ranked needs to be considered. the thing with THAT tho is that not enough people play it to even get a draft pick game, sad face Amumu

I made a post on eu boards regarding the idea of Free for all, if you like that idea please support ^^

http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/maps-modes-en/yrtMVmPL-free-for-all-mode-ffa

billdow1 votes

So the prerequisite's would be: Level 30 (Duh) Own all champions Be in good standing and considered non-toxic (30 or negative/lost less Tribunal cases) the pick ban phase will be back and forth one at a time 15 seconds each. (turn will end once ban is completed) Everyone gets to ban one champion then all are blocked except the random button and you can only hit it once(no re-rolls) If you fail to click the random button a random champion will be assigned(Teemo ) If you fail to ban on your turn a random champion will be banned(Teemo )

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