Something just occurred to me about Veigar.

Kaspellaer··39 votes·3,211 views

I don't believe Riot ever told us exactly how Veigar escaped captivity - only that he did so.

He is, however, one of the only Yordles not hated by a certain champion who specializes in making deals to transport people places, only to leave them miserable wretches in the end. Indeed, the wiki even lists them as allies at the moment.

TahmKench

Guess Noxian prison cells are a river too, huh?

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A Superb Villain11 votes

As a child, Veigar was a normal yordle with one small exception - he had a deep curiosity for the world beyond Bandle City. The young yordle spent much of his time studying the rest of Valoran, and he jumped at the chance to join a business that traded with other major city-states. Unfortunately for both him and the world, a deal with Noxian trader turned into shady business and went bad; Veigar and his companions were subsequently set up to take the fall.

What if the deal was helping Veigar journey the world and the price was his freedom; a deliciously ironic twist. Tahm finds suffering delectable, and by having Veigar imprisoned for years, the River King had a steady stream of anguish flowing from Veigar's lonely cell.

Hard Penetrator1 votes

Why would they be friends by now?

A Superb Villain1 votes

Uh... they aren't? Maybe?

Veigar enjoys causing pain and suffering, and Tahm clearly enjoys "devouring" anguish, so I suppose the Tiny Master of Evil's schemes satisfy Tahm's hunger.

Then again, Veigar is terribly unhinged, so he may be more trouble than he's worth to deal with.

Ebonmaw Dragon9 votes

Is good to see that I'm not the only one who thought the same.

Even if Veigar Veigar is not friend or enemy of TahmKench Tahm, he IS a yordle... and Riot confirmed that the Demonfish knows all the yordles, including the Master of Evil.

I guess that TahmKench is a Demon that is very interested in corrupting the hearts of people (after eating all the important things (and people) that are important for the person that made the "pact" with him)... Humans are easily corrupted, even more the ones from places like Bilgewater, Noxus or Zaun... but yordles? They are usually a happy race that would never make pacts with the "demon", excluding Veigar and Amumu, who aren't enemies of TahmKench.

Now, lets remember the Taunts of Kench... he has A LOT of taunts... but, he only taunts 4 yordles, even if he is enemy with almost all their race:

Amumu Amumu (Enemy) "I say, you're as 'fun' as a leaky roof." An insult (Ally) "Coveting friendship is barely an appetite - but one I do so sympathize with." He is offering his "help" in order to corrupt him even more... it makes sense considering that Ammumu, as i said before, is sad and can be "corrupted".

Gnar Gnar (Enemy) "Your conversation makes as much sense as a fish in lingerie!" The insult _ (Ally) "Time is just a river, boy, let me take you back where you belong."_ Another "offering"... Gnar is a child (4 years old without counting the ice) and can be manipulated with ease, aside from the fact that he has anger problems.

Lulu (Enemy) "The enormity of the hat doesn't hide the vacancy beneath it!" Straight insult, he not even bother to make an "offering". Lets consider that she is the only friend of Veigar, and a very happy yordle.

Teemo Teemo _(Enemy) "You're as likable as a rat in a bridle shop." _ Other insult (Ally) "Every heart has its own hunger. Tell me yours." This one is interesting... the demon is not "offering" anything, but he is interested in corrupting "Satan", after all, Teemo is a psycho under that yordle mask.

... So... It makes sense that TahmKench already "helped" Veigar to escape from the prison... and maybe, he ate the masters of Veigar? idk

Dextix LT5 votes

For me it seems that TahmKench Had something to do with Veigar becoming evil dark and crazy. Veigar was imprisoned before he became the evil mage. IT is possible that The fish made a deal with the cray cray from no interaction veigar, to get him out of the prison.

However, we know that TahmKench always collects. What did he take from veigar? His goodness? His soul? Empathy? Love?

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Is good to see that I'm not the only one who thought the same.

Even if Veigar Veigar is not friend or enemy of TahmKench Tahm, he IS a yordle... and Riot confirmed that the Demonfish knows all the yordles, including the Master of Evil.

I guess that TahmKench is a Demon that is very interested in corrupting the hearts of people (after eating all the important things (and people) that are important for the person that made the "pact" with him)... Humans are easily corrupted, even more the ones from places like Bilgewater, Noxus or Zaun... but yordles? They are usually a happy race that would never make pacts with the "demon", excluding Veigar and Amumu, who aren't enemies of TahmKench.

Now, lets remember the Taunts of Kench... he has A LOT of taunts... but, he only taunts 4 yordles, even if he is enemy with almost all their race:

Amumu Amumu (Enemy) "I say, you're as 'fun' as a leaky roof." An insult (Ally) "Coveting friendship is barely an appetite - but one I do so sympathize with." He is offering his "help" in order to corrupt him even more... it makes sense considering that Ammumu, as i said before, is sad and can be "corrupted".

Gnar Gnar (Enemy) "Your conversation makes as much sense as a fish in lingerie!" The insult _ (Ally) "Time is just a river, boy, let me take you back where you belong."_ Another "offering"... Gnar is a child (4 years old without counting the ice) and can be manipulated with ease, aside from the fact that he has anger problems.

Lulu (Enemy) "The enormity of the hat doesn't hide the vacancy beneath it!" Straight insult, he not even bother to make an "offering". Lets consider that she is the only friend of Veigar, and a very happy yordle.

Teemo Teemo _(Enemy) "You're as likable as a rat in a bridle shop." _ Other insult (Ally) "Every heart has its own hunger. Tell me yours." This one is interesting... the demon is not "offering" anything, but he is interested in corrupting "Satan", after all, Teemo is a psycho under that yordle mask.

... So... It makes sense that TahmKench already "helped" Veigar to escape from the prison... and maybe, he ate the masters of Veigar? idk

I dont know how much he cared for those wizards.

Rinky Dinky3 votes

Then the real question is, what did he take from Veigar?

Or even better.... what does he plan to take?

macromite5 votes

What if he takes lulu.

10110011100017 votes

You monster.

Only Teemo would come up with something so cruel.

Manwalrus2 votes

Tahm is teemo confirmed, you heard it here first.

HeadHonchkrow2 votes

Maybe his sanity

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

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Maybe his sanity

He cant take something that Veigar already lost... if the theory is correct, TahmKench "helped" Veigar to escape after he went insane.

HeadHonchkrow1 votes

oh, ok. derp

GreenLore1 votes

What if Veigar became more insane after Tahm Kench took his payment.

As in Veigar escapes,not that sane anymore,then gets his family/friends eaten by Tahm and goes full on crazy.

EndGamer113 votes

Tahm took the ability for him to be taken seriously. An evil person with no influence is weak. Now, when Veigar threatens the Mothership, the yordles laugh at him, "oh, you're too weak to do it". This damages Veigar's self-esteem, creating the suffering Tahm wants. However, as it was indirect, Veigar didn't draw the line of his lack of influence to Tahm, and thinks he is a friend.

babyghidorah1 votes

oooooo id believe it

Davy Crockett1 votes

I've read that Veigar was free by Teemo but Veigar left Teemo for dead after he was free (whether or not this is canon or not I do not know).

NullDragon1 votes

That's... actually pretty interesting of a theory. Huh. Makes sense.

Marbelara1 votes

Another theory (although yours is just the sweetest omg)-

What if Veigar really did escape out of sheer spite and anger. What if he got tired and pissed, unlocked his in-universe incredibly OP Q and busted himself out like we've always thought?

But then, he'd decided to put the _world _ on it's knees. Now, that is something TahmKench likes. That's something he'd not only gently help with, but get a reward of his choosing for doing so.

I mean, after reading your awesome theory I can't shake off Veigar sitting in his cell, just hearing Tahm sweet-talk to him. Lamenting and laughing. Telling Veigar to get his revenge.

But at the same time, I've always thought that his taunt "Do you want to reach your potential? It's a journey I could provide." is for Veigar rather than for MonkeyKing .

Towboat4211 votes

Do you guys think Tahm is a darkin, he is listed as an ally of aatrox which i found to be very strange and rather random. But think about it what do the darkin do they interact with and "help" mortals in order to reach their own ends for tahm thats sating his hunger and for aatrox his lust for battle.

theragingnerd1 votes

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Do you guys think Tahm is a darkin, he is listed as an ally of aatrox which i found to be very strange and rather random. But think about it what do the darkin do they interact with and "help" mortals in order to reach their own ends for tahm thats sating his hunger and for aatrox his lust for battle.

darkin are living weapons i don't see no weapon but his tounge

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

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darkin are living weapons i don't see no weapon but his tounge

That is just a Theory... a Game Theory!

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