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Petricite Absorbing Magic Explains so Much

LeviofEnvy··32 votes·20,160 views

In Sylas' lore it reveals that petricite absorbs magic, which explains so much about why there are so many mages in Demacia, despite strong anti-magic sentiment, and why the land is so fertile when other areas with minimal magic presence like Noxus Prime and Shurima are usually arid or not fertile at all. A lot of petricite means a lot of magic is being absorbed from somewhere, right?

And then there's the fact that Ryze keeps all the World Runes in a vault under the petricite groves, the vault itself is even made of petricite. The lore says Ryze thinks the petricite suppresses the World Runes but we know that's not true anymore: It absorbs their magic.

No wonder there's so much magic in Demacia and evidence of magic, there's an archmage keeping like 20 runes of world-shattering power underneath an entire field of magic-absorbing rocks.

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Warlord Rhinark11 votes

Petricite has been absorbing magic since Galio's rework.

LeviofEnvy8 votes

I'm aware, but this is the first time it's been outright stated, rather than implied. Galio's lore implies that petricite absorbs magic, and even at the time Riot was saying it seemed to suppress magic. There was an implication that the suppression was not the reality, but that's not directly stating it.

RiotRiot Scathlocke18 votes

Does a magnet suppress all the paperclips I dropped?

Nope. But there are no more paperclips on the floor. Job done!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

This is a great example of people using something they perhaps don't fully understand, to achieve their own aims. The people of Demacia know relatively little about how petricite works, compared to any League player who has now read the lore...

Flemman2 votes

well, ryze being able to cast spell in a forest of petricite was a big hint of it not supressing anything :p (and raise the concern about stacking all rune in the same place, that's a big magic bomb he is about to create >-<)

LeviofEnvy2 votes

I don't think Ryze even understands petricite or how it works. I imagine the only culture that might fully understand it would be the Blessed Isles, which is since destroyed and Demacia probably wouldn't listen to anyway considering the Blessed Islanders still aware of their own identities are, respectively, unwilling to leave the Isles and so corrupted by dark magic he can't be reasoned with in any capacity.

The Iceborn1 votes

{quoted}

Does a magnet suppress all the paperclips I dropped?

Nope. But there are no more paperclips on the floor. Job done!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

This is a great example of people using something they perhaps don't fully understand, to achieve their own aims. The people of Demacia know relatively little about how petricite works, compared to any League player who has now read the lore...

I dont know about that youve written stories and sometimes there are more paperclips on the floor, sometimes there powerful magic involved that isnt easily exhausted or absorbed thus making the sponge saturated before it had time to absorb all the spilled water :P

Whyte Lyon1 votes

Originally it seemed Demacia's trepidation towards magically gifted people was small scale in reality. That because of Petricite exposure spanning generations upon generations, that there were only a 1%, maybe less, population of actually gifted people at any given time. So even though socially Demacians were vigilant of threats they were focused entirely on outsiders because there was never any evidence, except by slanderious suspicion pointing towards citizens. So something like a mageseeker was never really used within the country's borders and they themselves rarely meet any sorcerers.

That way I always pressumed any 'oppression' was essentially nonexistent as there would be hardly anything to actually oppress, expect foreigners or prisoners of war.

But now that seems to be less the case. That sorcerers are born no less abundantly than anywhere else in the world and they can use their magic almost completely unhindered.

LeviofEnvy1 votes

You have a point. The magic that is canonically hindered is limited too, within Demacia's walls, Shyvana's magic is repressed and undead beings affected by the Black Mist are implied to be less powerful (not that an apocalyptically powerful Mordekaiser really cares), but that might be an effect of the World Runes. Shyvana's magic comes from an inner rune, and the Black Mist is very basic necromancy amplified to catastrophic levels by magic artifacts, a World Rune could certainly be among them too since the destruction occurred during the Rune Wars.

It's possible that the high quantity of World Runes in Demacia hinders magic that's runic in nature and therefore conflicts with the present runes, hence sorcerers and natural mages, most of whom don't possess runic magic, can use magic normally.

Tomoe Gozen6 votes

Have Demacians read their own lore, for pete's sake... Are they burning books about magic, too?

Necro Warrior873 votes

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Have Demacians read their own lore, for pete's sake... Are they burning books about magic, too?

I mean considering one of the stories is them burning down a village with no f*cks given I dare to say yes.

RiotRiot Scathlocke8 votes

No one in the lore, reads the lore.

Never confuse the level of knowledge and understanding we have as players and readers, with what the people of Runeterra know. I don't think there's many people who even have any kind of map, like we do.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

Yeah, but really, who needs a map?

Oleandervine6 votes

It's not indicated anywhere that any of the other regions have more or less magic present than Demacia. I mean hell, Noxus is currently in a political war between a cabal of ancient mages and a mage general, while a great deal of the champions from Noxus utilize magic in some form or fashion. Then there's Shurima, who's country was founded on harnessing the magic of the cosmos through a sun disk, and their elite of the past were cosmically infused beings - plus, we see evidence of magic EVERYWHERE in Ezreal's lore as he explores Shurima as well as through Taliyah's existences as a hereditary mage. Then if we move to Piltover/Zaun, magic is everywhere there as the engineers try to find ways to harness it and merge it with science and technology. I don't even HAVE to mention Ionia or the Shadow Isles and their omnipresence of magic, or even the Freljord, with a magical race of ice people. So it's a little tough to say that Demacia has more magic than anywhere else...

That said, we also have no indication what happens to the magic petricite absorbs. Obviously, Durand created Galio, and the magic he absorbs gives him life (so it wasn't news that Petricite absorbs magic...), but we don't know if it's consumed like an energy, or simply dispersed after a time. So we really don't have evidence that the petricite cells holding the World Runes are distributing that magic in any other way.

LeviofEnvy1 votes

Early discussions of Shurima indicate that natural magic is uncommon there, even if the empire itself utilizes magic, and though Noxus weaponizes magic, there's a strong indication, particularly from Vladimir and Swain's lore, that magic found within Noxus is still from an outside source (Vladimir's magic comes from the Shuriman Darkin, Swain's is literally demonic). Even basilisks, a strongly magical creature used by Noxus, comes from a different part of the empire.

And since the Shuriman Empire and LeBlanc predate the Rune Wars, we have no indication that these regions were once rich in magic like Ionia and the Blessed Isles or if they've always been like this. Lore indicates Shurima was once much more fertile and is becoming more fertile again, and the same could be true of Noxus. Ionia, Kumungu, and the Blessed Isles all have an indication that powerful magic makes their land extremely fertile and full of life. It's not that Demacia has more magic, I never said that it did, it's that Demacia's fertility being tied to magic might make more sense than it being fertile and there being no magic to speak of, and petricite absorbing magic and having the capability of being channelled could explain it.

Oleandervine1 votes

Yes, but that explanation is limited because Petricite was not a natural occurrence, it was crafted by people who realized that the fossilized trees in a specific forest had magic dampening abilities. So if the fossilized trees and the petricite made from were a cause of some kind of fertility, it would be extremely regional to where that forest was, not over the Demacian empire as a whole - because even then, Petricite is a limited material (the trees are not infinite), so they can't afford to make every town and structure out of the stuff (and they don't since mages in the rural areas are active). So that means that petricite is really limited to the capital of Demacia, near the forest where it's crafted, which means that the further reaches of the empire are not influenced by it. Even then, Sylas discovered it COULD be channeled and he did this by actively using magic through petricite, so that's not an event that would randomly happen without a mage intervention, meaning the magic absorbed by petricite remains there.

LeviofEnvy3 votes

Limited, but still a possibility, especially since Demacia built their walls, armor, weapons, and some buildings from petricite, meaning the whole kingdom is surrounded by and filled with materials that absorb magic. There's also that Garen's lack of awareness of the magic in his Demacian steel armor indicates that channeling petricite isn't really something that requires an expert or even awareness that they're doing it.

I mean, the Blessed Isles' magic comes directly from a single spring of water but the fertility is still everywhere.

I'm not saying this is definite, I'm saying that, to me, it makes a lot more sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, that's fine, agree to disagree, it's not like we have confirmation from Riot one way or another.

Oleandervine2 votes

Demacia's entire kingdom isn't surrounded by a wall of petricite. Just the capital city. Their empire is fairly sized, and the map makes no indication of a massive wall wrapped around the coast or their boundaries with other nations.

And in regards to the Blessed Isles, that water was under the ground everywhere, not just in the spring. The spring was the only place where it surfaced that people could encounter it. Maokai in his lore found the water table under the isles that contained the water, and pulled what he could into him before it all became corrupted, so that indicates that the waters were all over the isles, not just in the one pool.

Terozu2 votes
Psyrix1 votes

This is kinda incorrect. Ionia has more mages than any other place. It’s been outright stated that mages are rare in general... meanwhile in Ionia Akali is a rare example of someone who has no trace of magic. It’s unusual for an Ionian not to have some magic. I think, but not 100% sure, that a similar case existed within the blessed isles.

I thought it had been stated that Demacia has less mages than other nations on account do both the petricite and the almsot “xenophobic” nature of central Demacians and their attitude to magic. This was in a discussion about whether Magic was genetic

GinoSoldier1 votes

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It's not indicated anywhere that any of the other regions have more or less magic present than Demacia. I mean hell, Noxus is currently in a political war between a cabal of ancient mages and a mage general, while a great deal of the champions from Noxus utilize magic in some form or fashion. Then there's Shurima, who's country was founded on harnessing the magic of the cosmos through a sun disk, and their elite of the past were cosmically infused beings - plus, we see evidence of magic EVERYWHERE in Ezreal's lore as he explores Shurima as well as through Taliyah's existences as a hereditary mage. Then if we move to Piltover/Zaun, magic is everywhere there as the engineers try to find ways to harness it and merge it with science and technology. I don't even HAVE to mention Ionia or the Shadow Isles and their omnipresence of magic, or even the Freljord, with a magical race of ice people. So it's a little tough to say that Demacia has more magic than anywhere else...

That said, we also have no indication what happens to the magic petricite absorbs. Obviously, Durand created Galio, and the magic he absorbs gives him life (so it wasn't news that Petricite absorbs magic...), but we don't know if it's consumed like an energy, or simply dispersed after a time. So we really don't have evidence that the petricite cells holding the World Runes are distributing that magic in any other way.

I'm betting that the world runes will create Malphite after a lil' while. T'would be a twist!

Lady Sylum5 votes

The irony. The reason why Demacia is so fertile and rich is because they've been stealing magic from all over. And because I'm sure all citizens and warriors carry the material whenever they travel , they are bringing it inside the kingdom whenever they return.

That and there's a group that knowingly uses magic for Demaica and the one of the future king's closet allies is a freakin Dragon , and two daughters from the royal families ( Lux and Sona ) are a couple of the most powerful mages in existence.

Honestly , Sylas doesn't have to kill or destroy anything. Release this information the demacians will destroy themselves.

NotaRobot10063 votes

Which means Sylas might have less trouble getting recruits for his Glorious Mages' Revolution than I first thought.

Hold up, we know Garen's ult looks distinctly magical (giant sword). We know the special rock absorbs magic. We can be reasonably certain Garen's armor is Demacian steel, and thus contains said special rock.

What if his ult is what happens when his magic-absorbing armor reaches its cap and overflows?

GreenLore8 votes

The lore of Sylas mentions that there are some people who have magial powers even if they don't admit it and are actively against mages and I'm certain that Garen might be one of these cases,with his R being his own magical power that he denies himself(though you could explain his Q and W this way).

mrmeddyman2 votes

I think Garen is just actually ignorant of it and has never used his R in the lore

Game and lore exist in separate states

GreenLore6 votes

Honestly I think his ultimate was simply designed before they had any idea into which direction they should take the demacia lore.

However I wouldn't be surprised if they turned it into a plot point eventually,because otherwise it'd be just extremely random.

LeviofEnvy3 votes

It probably was designed that way, but knowing Riot they will absolutely capitalize on it.

GenoXx1 votes

It will be.

Terozu2 votes

Actually Garen's Q is his petricite sword absorbing their magic.

Flashes1 votes

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The lore of Sylas mentions that there are some people who have magial powers even if they don't admit it and are actively against mages and I'm certain that Garen might be one of these cases,with his R being his own magical power that he denies himself(though you could explain his Q and W this way).

So THAT'S how he spins for so long without getting dizzy.

Oleandervine5 votes

We know that Durand's creation, Galio, utilizes the magic he absorbs as a fuel that gives Galio life. But we also know that the petricite used by the mageseekers in Demacian Heart turns black and disintegrates once too much magic has been absorbed - and there was no resulting magical phenomena when that happened. So petricite doesn't overload and cause magic if it absorbs too much. It merely crumbles unless it was crafted by Durand.

That said, Sylas' story ALSO mentions that the elite of Demacia are also harboring magical talent they are either unaware of, or aware of and using their power and influence in society to make the mageseekers disappear. Given that Lux has IMMENSE magical powers, it's pretty much a given at this point that her hereditary aptitude for magic is shared by her family members to some degree, and this includes her brother. I would say Garen's abilities are his own magic manifesting.

Ifneth3 votes

This sounds like the plot for a really good story about the Demacian Royal Public Works Authority investigating unusual fertility around the World Rune Storage Facility. It writes a report revealing that the petricite of the vault has absorbed as much magic as possible and has begun leaking into the earth around it.

Public panic and official consternation ensues as Demacians recognize that this fertility extends throughout their land, and that the food they eat and water they drink have been touched by magic for generations. Protests surge throughout the country, demanding that the facility be closed or quarantined, and the World Runes be destroyed.

What a political thriller that would be...

Altronza1 votes

So the Petricite being a battery theory is pretty much proven here. Yay that makes things easier.

The Highest Noon1 votes

Yes. You must not read the stories because all of what you said was kinda explained in them lol

Why do you think that Galio is alive, when he is literally a petricite statue? Because he absorbed Lux's magic.

LeviofEnvy1 votes

Where do you think I got the direct statement "petricite absorbs magic"? It's literally in Sylas' biography. The thread isn't about petricite absorbing magic, it's about how that absorption affects Demacia's landscape.

As I've stated before in this thread, this is the first time it had been directly stated petricite absorbs magic and that it can be channeled, rather than just implying it.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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Where do you think I got the direct statement "petricite absorbs magic"? It's literally in Sylas' biography. The thread isn't about petricite absorbing magic, it's about how that absorption affects Demacia's landscape.

As for that, I'm pretty sure it was mentioned when the tales of Demacia vs Mages originally began but I could be wrong. Still, pretty smart catch.

As I've stated before in this thread, this is the first time it had been directly stated petricite absorbs magic and that it can be channeled, rather than just implying it.

I suppose, but it never really implied it neither. Lux and Galio's story generally includes the realization that Galio absorbed Lux's magic to fuel himself, and Lux wanted to keep visiting him so he could keep absorbing it to move around while also keeping her power a secret. Also something heavily implied, as you said, through his gameplay in that he generates a magic-absorbing shield.

As you might have noticed regarding Lux though, that plan didn't work out.

Vlada Cut1 votes

So basically. Demacia is a ticking giant Rune bomb now at this point.

LeviofEnvy1 votes

Quite possibly, what's very likely is that Demacia is in the same predicament as the Blessed Isles, where there's a huge concentration of magic sitting on this land mass, waiting for someone to act on it, even inadvertently, but will cause mass destruction in the end.

jocomotion1 votes

This just makes me feel even worse for Galio, poor guy is made up of a magic absorbing rock from people who hate magic, and can only gain sentience in battle against the very thing he was made to “destroy”.

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