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[Lore] Swain completely disregards Talon?

Ask Talon·1/23/2018, 10:44:11 PM·2 votes·2,157 views
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Perhaps it is a bit too early to worry but after checking his interactions there's none with Talon?

From Swain's recent lines we learned two things:

1) General Du Couteau is pretty much dead. **2) ** It is possible General Du Couteau asked Katarina to assassinate Swain according to one of the taunts, could this have lead to the General being murdered in the first place?

General Du Couteau was Katarina's father and Talon's adoptive father. He became his mentor and the person Talon admired the most. He was a significant political figure in Noxus, a powerful noble and a master assassin, and one day, he vanished. Swain and the Black Rose were hinted as responsible in the Old Lore, while now we hear Swain play with this idea of being blamed.

The question is, is Talon too much of a lowlife/insignificant to be even addressed by Swain? ~~ Let's not mention he has lines for Jax and Taliyah wtf~~

It is known the Du Couteau was one of the most powerful noble houses in Noxus, and Talon "adopted". Perhaps in Swain's arrogant view, he was still a rat, a useful rat, though, as the snippet of his lore now states he assassinates for the High Command.

Does this mean Talon's search for the General -and the ones responsible for his death- continue? Is this how he searches for the truth? At least that is what Urgot's execution line reveals when killing Talon.

I admit I'm kind of disappointed, Talon's original teaser back in 2011 pretty much showed some link between him, the Black Rose, and even Beatrice perched on a blade. But now there's nothing, not even a line. item 3070

15 Comments

Warlord Dienekes1/23/2018, 10:49:45 PM3 votes

Honestly, always saw Talon's inclusion as Du Couteau as a potentially sketchy plot thread to unravel. It's likely that Talon's lore was being finalized when the VO was written, or that Rioters don't want to reveal something about him. Or they forgot.

The Iceborn1/23/2018, 11:19:45 PM1 votes

I dont know about his Lore but theres an interaction with him at 8 minutes! maybe that helps?

Blaiz Fenix1/23/2018, 11:23:40 PM1 votes

Talon doesn't really have any relation to Swain in the new lore. His was adopted by the Du Couteau, but not necessarily by the General himself.

JhonTeemon1/24/2018, 12:19:49 AM1 votes

talon cleans the boots of the du couteau's, he's not privileged enough to even speak about the grand general let alone be in his presence.

I am more concerned about Swain mentioned a certain Darkwill in his interaction with Singed. If this is indeed Boram Darkwill, why on earth would he have any connection with Singed? Boram was assassinated by Swain in pre-retcon lore.

CaptainAntiHeroz1/29/2018, 12:53:58 PM1 votes

Well Jax is a grandmaster at arms and (if I remember correctly) icathyn so he's incredibly unique and probably earned respect on a semi regional level, I mean he beat Fiora. Taliyah was probably there to emphasize swains view on magic, just like his interaction with lux. However if we go off swains words, and he didn't kill the general, he might not know of Talon. (And while interactions between unrelated characters may happen, to be fair he had no lines for kled either) However I do believe with the interactions between him and Darius that eventually a war is coming within noxus'....