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Lets break down why the Varus lore change was a dumb idea

Rockman··122 votes·7,124 views

I'm literally writing this in vain, with amount of work they put into it, but fuck it.

  1. This completely retcons his entire Voice Over
  2. This turns him too similar to Rhaast/Kayn
  3. They didn't have to turn the human Varus into the Darkin Varus. Pallas still exists.
  4. They removed the human tragedy and gave a Darkin tragedy.
  5. "Hurr durr ma sister" like Aatrox and Rhaast being brothers wasn't already enough

In an effort to save my time and sanity, I'll just rewrite what they did. They wanted the story to not be as linear and I'll happily oblige. Its probably shit, but I'm too mad to care right now.

Varus is a human archer who helps serve the Pit of Pallas. The ancient mage order of the Owls attempted to seal away the Darkin Pallas, but the spell partially failed. The binding medium could not contain Pallas, and he became a cursed pool that sank to the depths of Runeterra. The Owls set up a guard that would eventually become a small township around the Pit of Pallas. Varus was the chief protector, versed in the ways of the old magic of the Owls. His son, Theshan, was slated to become the next protector.

Pallas was akin to an injured animal after the millennia he spent imprisoned. His mind was deteriorated and broken. Pallas would consistently bargain and plead with the chief protector for a deal, any deal, to escape his imprisonment. Eventually when Noxus invaded Ionia would Pallas get his deal. Varus would enter with the broken body of his son Theshan, desperate for the power to save the last of his family. Varus threw himself and Theshan into the pool, unaware of its true nature. Pallas created a new body out of Varus and Theshan, their minds merging into the new corrupted body. The combined power of Varus and Theshan were able to wrest control of the body from Pallas, but Pallas' strong desires still shape and take control when his mind is coherent. Now Varus and Theshan are attempting to prevent Pallas' agenda while trying to find a way to return themselves to normal.

92 Comments

Necrozard55 votes

1°) Voice over can be changed, and it isn't even that much incoherent.

2°) It's a good thing, makes lore unified. Varus is like a reverse Kayn.

3°) Pallas is a city with a temple

4°) It's a darkin tragedy , a love tragedy and a human tragedy. It's even better

5°) More darkins, more champions, more lore. That's the opposite of a problem

Rockman61 votes

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1°) Voice over can be changed, and it isn't even that much incoherent.

You know that changing a character into a completely new one "Because" is completely dumb. They have to do a full update, but since the new form isn't actually that different it would be stupid.

2°) It's a good thing, makes lore unified. Varus is like a reverse Kayn.

You don't get to call lazy writing unified. I should just make Blitzcrank and Orianna have the same lore to "unify" it.

3°) Pallas is a city

Its a pit.

4°) It's a darkin tragedy , a love tragedy and a human tragedy. It's even better

The human tragedy doesn't exist once the transformation is over, and the Darkin tragedy only exists to push another character. Also the love tragedy is basically https://i.imgur.com/5EgQt0i.jpg[/img]

5°) More darkins, more champions, more lore. That's the opposite of a problem

yeah just shove all that shit into a blender and drink it, MORE INGREDIENTS JUST MAKES IT BETTER

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO25 votes

I don't think you can say that Kayn and Varus are exploring the same themes and concepts. Remember Kayn willingly took up the Darkin scythe for his own power and ambition, you have to wonder who the worse of the two is. Varus explores what is the strongest of emotions and drives. Is the desire for revenge stronger than the power of love and conviction?

Human tragedy definitely exists, Valmar and Kai are bound to the body of a demon as they watch it kill, doing their best to find a cure.

I like the idea of five Darkin coming together, it puts the world of Runeterra that much more on the edge.

Rockman26 votes

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I don't think you can say that Kayn and Varus are exploring the same themes and concepts. Remember Kayn willingly took up the Darkin scythe for his own power and ambition, you have to wonder who the worse of the two is. Varus explores what is the strongest of emotions and drives. Is the desire for revenge stronger than the power of love and conviction?

You don't have to write two new gay lovers when the original Varus already had a son.

Human tragedy definitely exists, Valmar and Kai are bound to the body of a demon as they watch it kill, doing their best to find a cure.

The tragedy exists in the sense that they can't do shit. The fact the comic had them in control for an extended period of time, but the splash story had Varus in control the ENTIRE TIME means they can't even be consistent. Every time Varus kills people the humans get weaker, and in the splash story they couldn't even stop him killing random people.

I like the idea of five Darkin coming together, it puts the world of Runeterra that much more on the edge.

Two brothers, a brother and sister, and who gives a fuck lets just make the last one the dad of all of em. Its not like there was an entire race and only 5 survived, we should just Star Wars up the Darkin and make them all related.

AbiwonKenabi8 votes

Two brothers, a brother and sister, and who gives a fuck lets just make the last one the dad of all of em. Its not like there was an entire race and only 5 survived, we should just Star Wars up the Darkin and make them all related.

While I mostly agree with what you are saying, I think the "brothers" thing is purely because they are all Darkin "brethern" (and sisters, evidently). I could be wrong though, but it just seems like a weird thing to fixate on. Otherwise I agree.

Rockman6 votes

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While I mostly agree with what you are saying, I think the "brothers" thing is purely because they are all Darkin "brethern" (and sisters, evidently). I could be wrong though, but it just seems like a weird thing to fixate on. Otherwise I agree.

If Varus has a specific sister he is looking for instead of looking for Aatrox and Rhaast I'd say its pretty clear they have specific relationships.

Chembaron Yamada4 votes

Still doesn't mean that they are really related. They just see themselves as brother and sister since they are both Darkin, having the same ancient origin.

Could just be that Varus has a special relationship to her. Maybe they used to wander the world together for example.

Rockman1 votes

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Still doesn't mean that they are really related. They just see themselves as brother and sister since they are both Darkin, having the same ancient origin.

Could just be that Varus has a special relationship to her. Maybe they used to wander the world together for example.

I feel like you have to try a lot harder to believe that they have a quirk of using brother and sister with multiple people instead of they are actually related.

Pyrodinium1 votes

If you were sealed away from your world, with only a handful of your fellow Darkin, it is not a big reach to believe that you would address them as brothers and sisters.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO3 votes

Also there are definitely places with cultures that call eachother brother and sister.

XIII Vanitas5 votes

So when Jarvan says "brothers and sisters" he's not addressing his fellow Demacians but his actual siblings? Come on dude, don't be stupid, the terms "brother" and "sister" can be used to address people that you feel a strong connection with as if they were your actual family.

AbiwonKenabi6 votes

I mean, maybe they were just closer than the others. My point was mainly that this is a weird argument to talk about how the Varus change was bad. I think making the Darkin connection official (something that fans have speculated on for a while) was the one thing everything can agree was good about the changes. Connecting that Darkin to the others' just makes sense. This is literally the only part of the updated Varus lore I wouldn't argue about.

Otherwise I agree. I feel like they took the main plot point of Varus' old lore and made this new lore, but failed to carry over the themes or personalities of the old character, so it comes off as feeling like the new Varus is just wearing old Varus' skin. I envision a compromise on the character, like you've offered, and even if they wanted for some stubborn reason for one of like maybe 6 confirmed straight champions to be gay, they could have more closely aligned new gay Varus with old straight Varus' character arc (can't believe I just wrote that sentence with a straight face).

Rockman5 votes

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I mean, maybe they were just closer than the others. My point was mainly that this is a weird argument to talk about how the Varus change was bad. I think making the Darkin connection official (something that fans have speculated on for a while) was the one thing everything can agree was good about the changes. Connecting that Darkin to the others' just makes sense. This is literally the only part of the updated Varus lore I wouldn't argue about.

They've stated there was always 5 Darkin left, but that there wasn't always only 5 Darkin ever. Having at least one set of brothers with Rhaast and Aatrox is one thing, but to say at least two sets of siblings survived reaches the point of disbelief. Its about as dumb as the fact that Varus' weapon was conveniently a bow, and the two bodies he uses are archers. Originally Varus got a bow because the corruption knew that was the best weapon for him.

Otherwise I agree. I feel like they took the main plot point of Varus' old lore and made this new lore, but failed to carry over the themes or personalities of the old character, so it comes off as feeling like the new Varus is just wearing old Varus' skin. I envision a compromise on the character, like you've offered, and even if they wanted for some stubborn reason for one of like maybe 6 confirmed straight champions to be gay, they could have more closely aligned new gay Varus with old straight Varus' character arc (can't believe I just wrote that sentence with a straight face).

Personally I loved the fact Varus looked at his locket or calmed his bow down during his idle animation. It was little touches that made me love him. I've always feared this change since the new Varus skins ignored the locket. It was just an inevitability.

x0wolfie0x3 votes

{quoted} They've stated there was always 5 Darkin left, but that there wasn't always only 5 Darkin ever. Having at least one set of brothers with Rhaast and Aatrox is one thing, but to say at least two sets of siblings survived reaches the point of disbelief.

How do we know that all the living darkin aren't related though? Maybe only the strongest of the strong couldn't be destroyed. It would make some sense for most of the strongest to be related in some form, either biologically from strong genetics or through whatever counts as marriage or bonding to darkin. Cos, y'know, royal families tend to want to keep their gene pool strongest and the five existing could have been high ranking or something.

The use of family terms towards eachother might also be based entirely off of "brother(sister) in arms" seeing as they fought a war that nearly led to their extinction.

And who's to say they even reproduce? They may have all been forged in some way by some god and therefor are all considered one solid family consisting entirely of brothers and sisters? I mean in every darkin so far they were condensed down into their weapons and the weapon is the one possessing the human. Weapons get forged, and most weapons can be destroyed. Why these 5 never were is beyond me, but if the darkin are just a race of weapons it wouldn't be too far fetched to think that someone created them. And if they all got mass produced to the point of being a race I'm sure they would see some form of family relation to eachother.

Plus none of them are thinking of reproducing in any way, whether that's because they physically can't or because they're all family is unknown still obvs. So far all they seem to want is total annihilation of the beings that destroyed their race (which is fair) but in no way do they seem to want to make their race great again. So either they physically cannot reproduce/create new darkin (which is something that would probably be beneficial to the utter destruction of mortals), or they're so caught up in their rage that they're just not doing it.

We know that at least one female darkin still exists and if varus knows she exists (seemingly out of nowhere), why wouldn't the others? And if the others know about her and can reproduce with her, why aren't they trying to make more little baby weapons? It would make their rein of terror easier and it would ensure their domination of the world. Plus it would bring them from the brink of extinction back to being just an endangered species until they populated enough of the world with their spawn to be considered a nation of their own.

Rockman2 votes

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How do we know that all the living darkin aren't related though? Maybe only the strongest of the strong couldn't be destroyed. It would make some sense for most of the strongest to be related in some form, either biologically from strong genetics or through whatever counts as marriage or bonding to darkin. Cos, y'know, royal families tend to want to keep their gene pool strongest and the five existing could have been high ranking or something.

The use of family terms towards eachother might also be based entirely off of "brother(sister) in arms" seeing as they fought a war that nearly led to their extinction.

And who's to say they even reproduce? They may have all been forged in some way by some god and therefor are all considered one solid family consisting entirely of brothers and sisters? I mean in every darkin so far they were condensed down into their weapons and the weapon is the one possessing the human. Weapons get forged, and most weapons can be destroyed. Why these 5 never were is beyond me, but if the darkin are just a race of weapons it wouldn't be too far fetched to think that someone created them. And if they all got mass produced to the point of being a race I'm sure they would see some form of family relation to eachother.

Plus none of them are thinking of reproducing in any way, whether that's because they physically can't or because they're all family is unknown still obvs. So far all they seem to want is total annihilation of the beings that destroyed their race (which is fair) but in no way do they seem to want to make their race great again. So either they physically cannot reproduce/create new darkin (which is something that would probably be beneficial to the utter destruction of mortals), or they're so caught up in their rage that they're just not doing it.

We know that at least one female darkin still exists and if varus knows she exists (seemingly out of nowhere), why wouldn't the others? And if the others know about her and can reproduce with her, why aren't they trying to make more little baby weapons? It would make their rein of terror easier and it would ensure their domination of the world. Plus it would bring them from the brink of extinction back to being just an endangered species until they populated enough of the world with their spawn to be considered a nation of their own.

They weren't originally weapons. I want you to stop and think for a second. If all of the Darkin were ORIGINALLY weapons, who then got sealed INTO those weapons, would that be dumb? Instead of they existed and were then sealed into weapons? Like that fact you're hungup on this procreation bit seems to be missing the point that the lore isn't even explained enough for us to know the bear minimum.

marpatt111 votes

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They weren't originally weapons. I want you to stop and think for a second. If all of the Darkin were ORIGINALLY weapons, who then got sealed INTO those weapons, would that be dumb? Instead of they existed and were then sealed into weapons? Like that fact you're hungup on this procreation bit seems to be missing the point that the lore isn't even explained enough for us to know the bear minimum.

Well, I mean. He is entirely right in his point above. We know from varus' short story that its been, and I quote "He despised the human noises his new mouth made. It sounded bestial and primitive, but at least he could speak aloud once more." implying that the darkins original forms aren't physical

Rockman2 votes

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Well, I mean. He is entirely right in his point above. We know from varus' short story that its been, and I quote "He despised the human noises his new mouth made. It sounded bestial and primitive, but at least he could speak aloud once more." implying that the darkins original forms aren't physical

They explicitly state they were sealed away into the weapons and were actual physical beings

The two men had unwittingly released Varus and now bear the bow containing his bound essence.

http://puu.sh/ywMFp/3cb8fe5c46.png

marpatt113 votes

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They explicitly state they were sealed away into the weapons and were actual physical beings

http://puu.sh/ywMFp/3cb8fe5c46.png

Well for starters, how do we know the physical bodies they sealed into the weapons weren't being possessed by the darkin? and in the music video, we see a glimpse into what Val and Kai are seeing as they are becoming one with Varus. Varus in this looks to be almost...atheral looking (at least to me) so my hypothesis is that maybe they're essence, or spirits of the world. We know spirits exist in runeterra, look at Maokai or Evelynn 's lores, they are spirits. Anyways, im not good with lore, and I don't work at rito, so who knows, I could be correct, I could be entirely wrong, but this is what I think.

Baron of Bread3 votes

Only one of Varus's human hosts used a bow, the other is clearly seen using a sword.

DeadUnborn2 votes

I don't know why I have a creeping suspicion you are Riot WAAARGbobo on an alt account XD. Even since the lore update came about you have been very active on the forum, and you seem to have the lore figured out and fresh and trying to explain it to people on every thread xD.

I think changing Varus the way Riot did was well done. As a person who is fervently against adding homosexual characters to games for just the sake of doing so, I think in this instance it was done in an organic way which furthered the character's arc and motives, which in my book is the only reason it should ever be done

Rockman3 votes

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I don't know why I have a creeping suspicion you are Riot WAAARGbobo on an alt account XD. Even since the lore update came about you have been very active on the forum, and you seem to have the lore figured out and fresh and trying to explain it to people on every thread xD.

I think changing Varus the way Riot did was well done. As a person who is fervently against adding homosexual characters to games for just the sake of doing so, I think in this instance it was done in an organic way which furthered the character's arc and motives, which in my book is the only reason it should ever be done

How is changing a father into two gay lovers and a Darkin organic? You need to actually explain instead of just claiming that.

DeadUnborn2 votes

I wasn't talking about that character trait being organic in the context of the lore being retconed, but rather on how for the purpose of that device of part for the story as a stand-alone piece it makes sense for the two hunters to be homosexual.

I think Varus' old lore was serviceable but generic. This new lore I find refreshing because the 3 entities in Varus' body have struggles and disagree. They changed what I found generic about the old lore and changed it into something more dynamic --but more importantly -- something that can expand, grow and change over time

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

I get bored every now and then and I like talking to people, I tend to get very active on the boards for spurts of time.

DeadUnborn2 votes

nah you are a Rioter in disguise now, deal with it.

Necrozard18 votes

You can think what you want, but i believe that these changes are for the greater good. Lore-wise and Champion-wise

redniwediS34 votes

The only thing left of the old character is a part of his old story, rather than a part of who he was as a person like they normally keep.

The new story might be good, but the precedent this is setting is not a good one for anyone who likes any part of the old lore.

Rockman16 votes

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The only thing left of the old character is a part of his old story, rather than a part of who he was as a person like they normally keep.

The new story might be good, but the precedent this is setting is not a good one for anyone who likes any part of the old lore.

Its funny because Orianna is getting an almost similar story change that cuts out her father entirely.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO3 votes

Orianna got the change, and her father is incredibly critical to the story.

Rockman8 votes

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Orianna got the change, and her father is incredibly critical to the story.

Alright to be fair the short bio has him completely written out. When they rewrote that part I just assumed they had retconned him out since almost every other bio keeps doing that.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO5 votes

The short bios are a distillation of the champion, they do not eliminate lore by omission. All of the champions with updated stories still have their stories as canon, even if the short bio doesn't mention it

Rockman9 votes

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The short bios are a distillation of the champion, they do not eliminate lore by omission. All of the champions with updated stories still have their stories as canon, even if the short bio doesn't mention it

The short bio of Shaco is that he's a puppet.

The short bio of Morgana removed her being a freedom fighter.

The short bio of Nautilus removed all human feelings.

Tristana is also a glory hungry Yordle instead of a soldier protecting her home.

Do I need to continue?

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO11 votes

It's like you deliberately ignored me

Pyrodinium2 votes

A fair point to make, although late by a good three years.

Riot Games was pretty straightforward about this: They will sacrifice old storylines for quality in new content every time.

Kaladin Davar3 votes

Boohoo the people who don't like gay champs can cry more on the boards. nothing will change

Arakadia2 votes

You know that changing a character into a completely new one "Because" is completely dumb. They have to do a full update, but since the new form isn't actually that different it would be stupid.

Your complaint was about the VO. Which isn't a big deal. VO almost always have to be updated after significant lore updates.

You don't get to call lazy writing unified. I should just make Blitzcrank and Orianna have the same lore to "unify" it.

Its not lazy. They took a different approach and gave it a twist. New Varus and Kayn do not have the same lore. Your comparison is garbage.

Its a pit.

As far as I know, it was.

And it was called the Pit of Pallus because it was a pit in Pallas (the village) not because it contained Pallas.

The human tragedy doesn't exist once the transformation is over, and the Darkin tragedy only exists to push another character. Also the love tragedy is basically https://i.imgur.com/5EgQt0i.jpg[/img]

I'm not sure what you want from a love tragedy then.

And somehow you think that the defining feature of said relationship is that they're gay. Your joke wouldn't make sense or work if Varus was straight.

yeah just shove all that shit into a blender and drink it, MORE INGREDIENTS JUST MAKES IT BETTER

Dude they literally developed the world more and revealed information about the Darkins. This is what people have wanted for years.

Calling the lore shit is just a meaningless insult that could be applied to any lore. Its not more shit its more development. People are crazy about Darkins so talking about their past and a new female one is what people have asked for sense Aatrox's release.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

I like the new role.RIOTs new stories are refreshing. It also teased so much and people ignore it how much info we got Darkin sister,Flame-haired/golden armored queen(myb Kayle?),snake god next to crocodile and jackal (meaning snake ascendant) is a possibility,new Vastaya moon-walkers and myb potential siren called Sirin which Kai and Valmar hunted down.There's sk much to look forward to.Im hyped :D

Autrah Fang3 votes

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snake god next to crocodile and jackal (meaning snake ascendant)

i feel like the snake ascendant thing was teased long ago, back when the Shurima event happened and Cassiopeia's lore was updated. she got her snake-like appearance from a snake statue cursing her (or something along those lines) when she raided a Shuriman tomb (Azir's tomb? Xerath's prison? both? i forget) with Sivir lol. although, i will concede that further teasing is not really a bad thing XD

PokladnicaZla1 votes

Tho it never was confirmed to be an ascendant,if I recall correctly it was more of a round snake seal? Gotta recheck that. Cassios lore hinted it,but I think this is a better as a confirmation. :D

Stars Shaper16 votes

It lost a lot of tragic feeling imo. Nor Val nor Kai experienced the loss Old Varus had. Imo they could have left the Darkin Varus as they did with the "Darkin Tragedy" and parallel it with Old Varus loss and tragedy.

Val and Kai really seem void characters too (because Rion't can't introduce well so many characters at once and they know it) and it's the first time I want Varus to consume them fast.

Pyrodinium3 votes

The current trend seems to move champions away from having their tragedies happen in their backstories, and more as an ongoing thing. Old Varus had already lost everything, which made him suited for a place at the Institute of War (a narrative setting where change had to be limited), but new Varus character conflict is a present theme, as not only the Darkin is on a quest, but Valmar and Kai continually experience loss and grief as Vaarus slaughters their fellow Ionians.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Varus didn't lay a finger on Ionians though. Kai and Val are so good and pure that they find the rage to overcome Varus if he kills Shuriman vastaya slaves and mourn at the loss of shuriman soldiers. This kind of things are over the top in terms of narrative, we are not talking about Soraka (or Taric) who indeed would feel deeply grieved by the loss of lives.

Pyrodinium6 votes

Ok, their fellow humans.

Those guys literally used to put their bodies on the line to spare normal people of monsters' depredations. Is that incredible that they feel strongly about the loss of human life? How is that 'over the top'?

I get that the trope of the emotionally stunted, devoid-of-empathy hero is favored nowadays, but even then...

Stars Shaper2 votes

They are hunters, while giving them a sort of more complex role by having to be sworn protector of the balance one and a rather good guy the other, the extent of Kai pureness doesn't give him dept, only cringyness.

Look, I'm all for emotional invested characters, I loved the Galio and Lux short story because it didn't put things over a such high and ethereal standard of ethics that was closely non-human. I even like Kayn cockyness, Aurelion Sol nonchalant badassery and feelings of love towards creation. But those things make sense on those characters.

Pyrodinium3 votes

I am having a hard time grasping exactly what is cringey about Kai's personality, and why you believe that they are absolutely good and pure.

Especially since this last post seems to imply that objeting the killing of people without provocation or need (the thing that Varus does and Kai protests over) is a "high and ethereal standard of ethics that is closely non-human".

I mean, both Valmar and Kai fought with lethal intent against the Noxian invaders, killing them to defend their homes. They are not incorruptible pure pureness.

Arakadia2 votes

While it had its own touch, old Varus' tragedy was very similar to many others in League. Oh his whole family died and its really sad and horrible but it wasn't very different from the others.

The new tragedy is unlike anything we have seen before.

TheySeeMeWardin11 votes

1.) My friend, much of the new lore makes voice lines completely irrelevant on many champs and I imagine they will change it in the future. 2.) EVERYONE WAS DOWN FOR HIM BEING DARKIN!! Idk why everyone is so shocked and disgusted by this. 3.) I’ll agree with you that they didn’t have to completely kill off the old Varus but this was a lore update, things do change. 4.) The “human tragedy” was a small blurb about his family dying.... the amount of dead families champions have is astounding. The new tragedy, which you don’t have to like, is how Val (or whatever it is) can never go back home and how he has to fight every second to keep ahold of his light heart. So there still is a human tragedy, it’s not just “man fights against the evil within” which he was in the first place but whatever, spin the old lore into something it’s not. 5.) More champs... that’s all there is. Why the hate?

ForgottenLuck6 votes

Nah you just overexaggerating

Selling Nudes6 votes

Showing Theshan where to hold the bow, how to draw, and how to remember his breath gave Varus a better understanding of these things himself. His son would need to know these things for himself; his father had been anointed Temple Guardian, after all. He wouldn't always be there.

Varus wasn't there now, strictly speaking; none of this was real, and his clever eyes knew it.

This was some game Summoners played to amuse themselves with aspirants to the League. But here was his son, blessedly alive. He tousled the boy's warm hair. Varus knew what was coming, and he took such blessings where he could.

I know a lot of this was already non cannon but damn it hurts.

Goodbye father, and goodbye son. I cannot do your memory any justice and neither can any of your other fans anymore Varus.

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Solidair35 votes

I'd like to counter your second point that the similarities between Val and Kai with Varus and Kayn with Rhaast actually make them much more intriguing.

For Kayn and his struggle with Rhaast, it's about a battle of pure will and brute force strength. I would even call their struggle dull in comparison to the struggle that Val and Kai have with Varus.

Varus is now three distinct entities, and their inner struggle is more interesting than just a two against one scenario. First and foremost, alone, Kai or Val would certainly have been destroyed by Varus instantly upon taking up the bow. Either one's will is much weaker than that of Kayn whose ambitions and pure force of will are enough to face up to Rhaast. For Varus, the struggle against Kai and Val is interesting because, first, this is not just one body or mind being taken over, it's two bodies put together, but more importantly it's the will and ambitions of two very different people who just happened to love each other. They battle against Varus, and while they work together against him, they are still two separate entities. Varus himself even mentions specifically that Kai "hate it" when he kills innocents. Val on the other hand is not mentioned, and it is in fact implied that Val is pretty into the whole vengeance thing, but this complex interaction between the three (that I am probably not doing justice here) is pretty exciting, and who knows? What is their love or even just their journey with Varus creates not a dominant relationship but some sort of perfect Human/Darkin hybrid some time in the future down the road. The possibilities of what we're going to see in their stories going forward are MANY and I think there is a lot of potential here.

As for Varus' voice over: Dude, it's shit. I love Varus but let's be a little real here. His VO is basically on par with old Taric or current Kassadin. A lot of vengeance talk. a lot of angst. WE GET IT. I would much prefer a new VO for them/him and maybe we'll get it eventually but I'm not holding out hope.

You'll have to explain to me the loss of human tragedy, because I really don't think Kai or Val would agree with you. If anything there is now an added layer of tragedy on top of the human tragedy, again, as all three characters have ambitions and history.

And as for the sister thing? Well, are we sure that all of the Darkin don't consider themselves siblings? perhaps all 5 consider each other family, as they are the only ones left of their entire race.

repchi5 votes

I fully agree with an author. I really do like Varus as a character and I was really into playing him, I even made myself fully remember his lore (old one). When I started reading that comic, I couldn't believe that they could actually change his lore. Old one was intresting enough in my opinion and would really deserve a music video (duh). Now, Varus for me is more like a result of a mistake, rather than a master in his craft that posseses incredible power in order to serve his own justice.

I would rather like to see "old" Varus understanding his mistake by following the way of vengance and that he rejects the darkness and become a human than what Riot did lol.

In my opinion, by changing his lore, his personality doesn't make sense anymore. As shown in comic, Kai and Val are trying to stop Darkin from killing spree that just keeps going on and on. With his "old lore", Varus was just seeking for vengance and nothing was going to stop him and no one would stand in his way.

I hope that they're not going to mess up that "possible" rework as well.

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