Laughing Fish's top 10 most powerful champions (lore)

Laughing Fish··5 votes·2,830 views

Honorable mention: Xerath, Renekton, Mordekaiser, Lissandra, Aatrox

10: Veigar Why is he powerful? Veiger is the only mortal to master celestial magic. Not only that, but he managed to corrupt it to his will. However, He is delusional and arrogant, and as such makes foolish errors. But make no mistake: The Tiny Master of Evil is a force to be reckoned with!

9: Heimerdinger Why is he powerful? A strange pick, I know. But Heimerdinger is the most intelligent champion in the game. His inventions and discoveries are pulling Runeterra towards greatness. He will be able to figure out how any other champion's powers work, and find some way to stop them. His weakness? He is physically very vulnerable. Many of the champions listed here could simply obliterate him before he had time to work.

8: Azir Why is he powerful? He is one of the ascended, and is the former emperor of Shurima. He is rebuilding his once great nation, and intends to conquer the earth. But he runs into a similar problem as veiger. Despite his immense power, Azir still finds a way to overestimate himself. He truly considers himself unkillable, and that is always a dangerous thought.

7: Malzahar Why is he powerful? The Prophet of the Void has a connection to a being on the other side of the rift. He can create portals to the void, and can summon horrors to do his bidding. Given his way, he would bring monsters into this world that would consume a living matter. But at the end of the day, he is still just a puppet for a much worse creature.

6: Zilean Why is he powerful? He is the time-lord victorious! He can see through time, and can manipulate it to his own ends. Even if you manage to kill him, he can reverse time back to a point when he was still alive. Unfortunately for him, despite his gifts he is bound by time just like everyone else. There are things he simply cannot change. His gift is also very hard to control, and it is difficult for him to remain focused on the current time, as his mind wanders.

5: Nasus Why is he powerful? He is one of the ascended, and is the ancient guardian of Shurima. He has limited control over time and the life force of those around him, and is able to siphon their lives to strengthen his own. He is immortal, and has gathers thousands of years worth of experience. Despite his massive power, he is vulnerable to other powerful mages, and has lost much of his old will after his brother descended into madness. Nasus, while still immensely powerful, is still just a shadow from a dead empire.

4: Chogath Why is he powerful? The Terror of the Void is one of the only creatures to summon himself into this world. He hijacked the Leagues summoner magic and brought himself into Runeterra. Thinking they had trapped the monster, they put him to work fighting in the league. They came to realize later though that Cho'Gath allowed himself to be captured, and only remains as it gives him an easy source of prey. He is a vile creature who grows in strength and power as he eats. and he eats A LOT. His inability to work well with others (as he has a tendency to eat them) makes it unlikely this creature will ever amount to more than a nightmare though. He is strong, but you can only do so much alone.

3: Velkoz Why is he powerful? They say knowledge is power. And when it comes to knowledge, nobody can hold a candle to Vel'Koz. He disintegrates any who he comes across, which allows him to not only get complete knowledge of their anatomy, their strengths, and their weaknesses, but it also allows him to absorb their memories. He is always getting smarter. As he has absorbed entire libraries and armies of men, his strategy and combat skills are immeasurable. His obsession though creates weakness. He spends all day every day gathering knowledge, and not really doing anything with it. He getting smarter, but really getting more powerful.

2: Viktor Why is he powerful? A controversial choice, I am aware. He may be weaker than some others now, but The Glorious Evolution has virtually limitless potential. As we have seen with the Battlecast skin line, Viktor has the ability to consume and convert all living creatures. Every victory adds to his numbers, adds to his abilities, and adds to his power. He can adapt and evolve his armies to defeat any oncoming threat. If Viktor is not killed quickly, the world may lose any chance of doing so. But he has a limit: Energy. His war machines are virtually unstoppable, but they require a very large amount of energy. This is why he lost out to the number one:

1: Karthus Why is he powerful? Karthus holds the key between life and death. He has formed an ever growing army of the souls of the dead. Even if you manage to destroy one of his soldiers, he simply brings their souls back to this world. He is the only known wielder of oblivion, which is the essence of death itself. But that is not all: Karthus is a master manipulator. Despite the horror of his ideals, he manages to convince those to willingly give themselves to death. Every victory for you means nothing while The Deathsinger lives, but every victory for him makes his armies grow larger.

58 Comments

IMTOOJUICY4 votes

No Syndra anywhere?

Also, where's Jayce if Viktor's so high? After he invented his hammer, Jayce fought to a draw with Viktor.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Jayce broke Viktor's power source when Viktor was vulnerable. Viktor continually grows more powerful, Jayce only won because Viktor was still new and weak at the time.

333lom2 votes

Once Viktor reaches technological singularity, no one will be able to defeat him. Not even Karthus!

Laughing Fish1 votes

Exactly. Viktor has the greatest potential power in my opinion. The reason I placed Karthus over him is that Karthus also can bring a virtually limitless amount of people acting together, but he doesn't have to worry about a power source. Until Viktor can find a way to provide energy to his armies without the power crystal Jayce smashed, it will be hard for him to continue. But Viktor is certainly a close second.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Exactly. Viktor has the greatest potential power in my opinion. The reason I placed Karthus over him is that Karthus also can bring a virtually limitless amount of people thinking and acting together, but he doesn't have to worry about a power source. Until Viktor can find a way to provide energy to his armies without the power crystal Jayce smashed, it will be hard for him to continue. But Viktor is certainly a close second in my opinion.

Viktor will always need a power source. If he obtains something that would put in danger the balance of the cosmos and/or Runeterra, Bard will stop him with ease.

That is why i think that Veigar Veigar has more potential than anyone else. He is the only one that has corrupted the energies of the cosmos without problems.

Laughing Fish1 votes

But if Veiger can find a way to corrupt the cosmos, why can't Viktor? The Battlecast (specifically battlecast Xerath) line proves that even pure energy can be evolved with the Glorious Evolution. So if Viktor can evolve something using Ascension magic, who's to say he can't do the same with cosmic?

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

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But if Veiger can find a way to corrupt the cosmos, why can't Viktor? The Battlecast (specifically battlecast Xerath) line proves that even pure energy can be evolved with the Glorious Evolution. So if Viktor can evolve something using Ascension magic, who's to say he can't do the same with cosmic?

You are assuming that Battlecast Xerath is the actual Xerath. But that might be false... it could be an imitation created by Viktor.

After all, everyone assumed that Mecha Khazix was a the real KhaZix, modified by Viktor. But he is only an imitation of the real KhaZix (but giant, metallic and created by yordles).

(And im ignoring the fact that the skins are not cannon, if you count skins, Final Boss Veigar can destroy the whole game and the reality of Valoran)

IMTOOJUICY1 votes

I really don't remember reading anything stating this.

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

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No Syndra anywhere?

Also, where's Jayce if Viktor's so high? After he invented his hammer, Jayce fought to a draw with Viktor.

Actually, Jayce NEVER fought against Viktor Viktor. He fought against acolytes and robots of the glorious evolution.

And Syndra Syndra has potential, but Veigar Veigar and Annie Annie also have similar potential. In fact, Veigar is stronger than Syndra, because he studied with a lot of mentors around Runeterra and has reached Cosmic Powers. Syndra just killed her mentor because she doesn't care about studying... with that attitude, she will never reach her true potential.

IMTOOJUICY2 votes

Jayce's bio says he fought Viktor after he fought the acolytes, and both sustained heavy injuries.

Yea Veigar is badass, I forgot about him. Annie isn't quite there yet, imo, but she can get there definitely. Thing is, Syndra uprooted a castle and presumably uses a little bit of her power to keep it permanently airborne. That's pretty damn impressive as far as feats are concerned. Magic fire bears are cool, but not in the same realm as castle-launching, imo.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Jayce's bio says he fought Viktor after he fought the acolytes, and both sustained heavy injuries.

Yea Veigar is badass, I forgot about him. Annie isn't quite there yet, imo, but she can get there definitely. Thing is, Syndra uprooted a castle and presumably uses a little bit of her power to keep it permanently airborne. That's pretty damn impressive as far as feats are concerned. Magic fire bears are cool, but not in the same realm as castle-launching, imo.

Oh true true about Viktor and Jayce.

Yeah, the Castle thing is impressive... but she still having almost 0 knowledge about magic and she doesn't want to improve... Syndra only cares about controlling her power. Veigar in other hand has studied and wants to be stronger... he was not gifted with magical potential, he learned about magic and obtained more power than any other.

Lifting a Castle may be impressive... BUT VEIGAR CAN LIFT A GIANT MAGICAL SPACESHIP using *balloons *.

checkmate atheist.

And about Annie... she is like 8 - 10 years old, she did the bear thing when she was 4 years old aprox... imagine what she will do at the age of Syndra.

IMTOOJUICY2 votes

No, Syndra definitely wants to grow in power/mastery/etc, I don't know where you're getting that from. Heck, it's why she killed that old man. The authorities wanted to control/limit her growth, and she was not down with that. And I have no doubt she is eager to learn more about magic. She did learn a lot under the old man's tutelage and became frustrated only when she realized that something was inhibiting the growth of her actual power.

Annie could definitely become a world beater, but I was under the impression this list is about the here and now, not what she could be a decade from now.

As for Veigar, I have to admit, I am not well versed in his lore. I dunno why, I just have a hard time taking him seriously, haha.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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No, Syndra definitely wants to grow in power/mastery/etc, I don't know where you're getting that from. Heck, it's why she killed that old man. The authorities wanted to control/limit her growth, and she was not down with that. And I have no doubt she is eager to learn more about magic. She did learn a lot under the old man's tutelage and became frustrated only when she realized that something was inhibiting the growth of her actual power.

Annie could definitely become a world beater, but I was under the impression this list is about the here and now, not what she could be a decade from now.

As for Veigar, I have to admit, I am not well versed in his lore. I dunno why, I just have a hard time taking him seriously, haha.

Wen i say "control" i mean "Absolute control" of her abilities, not being controlled by someone. Due her personality, she will never learn magic from others because she already thinks that her magic is the most powerful thing in the world.

She wants to growth her magical powers, not learn other kind of magics that may "limit" her.

You may not take Veigar seriously, and there is a lot of people who thinks the same. But he learned and mastered the most powerful dark magics around the world with the tutelage of the most powerful dark wizards of Valoran (which mean that he knows almost all the magics used on runeterra) and he surpassed the powers of his masters (after all, in the old lore, the league choose him to fight in the league instead of them... and the league only uses the most powerful persons of valoran). He managed to corrupt the cosmic energies, the same energies that are used by Bard and other celestial beings, and use that energies with evil purposes.

In one day, he stole every single balloon of Bandle City with ease and no one even saw him. He did the same with the half of the horseshoes of the city (he only stole the left ones.. or the ones from the right feet i don't remember...). He is able to create black holes and wormholes, summon storms of meteors, eat souls, absorb power, control magic of his enemies and more.

IMTOOJUICY2 votes

Wen i say "control" i mean "Absolute control" of her abilities, not being controlled by someone. Due her personality, she will never learn magic from others because she already thinks that her magic is the most powerful thing in the world.

She wants to growth her magical powers, not learn other kind of magics that may "limit" her.

Eh, I don't agree with your analysis that she is too arrogant to learn about magic from others. So far, she has only shown inclination to learn about magic. I see no evidence whatsoever which shows the opposite.

If indeed she did learn only about her particular brand of magic from the old man, that does not necessarily mean she is only interested in that brand of magic. It only means that, so far, the only lessons offered to her have been about her brand of magic. And the lessons were probably intentionally narrow in range due to the monk's motivations. I am certain a person like her would be proactive or open-minded when it comes to learning about other types of magic.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Eh, I don't agree with your analysis that she is too arrogant to learn about magic from others. So far, she has only shown inclination to learn about magic. I see no evidence whatsoever which shows the opposite.

If indeed she did learn only about her particular brand of magic from the old man, that does not necessarily mean she is only interested in that brand of magic. It only means that, so far, the only lessons offered to her have been about her brand of magic. And the lessons were probably intentionally narrow in range due to the monk's motivations. I am certain a person like her would be proactive or open-minded when it comes to learning about other types of magic.

Even if it requires to receive lessons from someone with less power than her? Even if the some lessons may "limit" her power while learning the basics?

If the answer is "Yes", she hasn't done such thing for now.

And we dont know the real powers of Syndra aside from what we see in the gameplay and the flying castle. Azir can create a giant army of sand solders, Xerath can call thousands of arcane thunders, Veigar can summon meteor storms, Karthus has necromancy and the requiem... etc...

... but Syndra? yeah, she has a lot of power... but what she can do with that power aside from lifting things (and castles) and create/control balls of energy? heck, we don't even know what kind of magical balls she uses... is that darkness? shadows? cannonballs? Void? a literal void? gravity? Dark magic? black matter? what?

IMTOOJUICY2 votes

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Even if it requires to receive lessons from someone with less power than her? Even if the some lessons may "limit" her power while learning the basics?

If the answer is "Yes", she hasn't done such thing for now.

Syndra has no problems learning from someone weaker than her. Remember, she didn't kill the monk because she became stronger than the monk and decided she had no more use for him (I think she already was stronger than him from the get go, anyway). She became angry because she could tell something or someone was inhibiting her development.

Either way, all of these caveats you're throwing in now, they don't negate the fact that when she was offered the opportunity to learn magic, she eagerly accepted.

Narasimha1 votes

Yeah, the Castle thing is impressive... but she still having almost 0 knowledge about magic and she doesn't want to improve... Syndra only cares about controlling her power.

I don't know about that. She only disliked it when people tried to stifle and control her. I'm sure she'd probably test and experiment her limits herself. She doesn't need to have the absolute knowledge of her magics. She just needs the raw power and the ability to use it.

Takeuchi 173 votes

Aatrox i feel like this guy should be up there. I mean hes practically considered a god of war and just toys with mortals

Nocturne also is a force to be reckoned with as it was something killing people in their dreams. but i guess since in the lore hes now bound to real life and forced to participate in league hes prob not much of a threat now.

Lissandra i would prob rank about the same as malz

Laughing Fish3 votes

Aatrox is not included for the same reason that I did not include Bard. So little is known about the extent of Aatrox's powers. His species died for a reason, so he is clearly killable. He mostly messes with tribes, which makes me wonder if he would actually sway a large army like say Demacia, or if he can only control a small number at a time. I added him to the honorable mention list though.

Nocturne is a terrifying creature, but his powers are extremely limited. He was captured by the league, and is enslaved by them. Everyone on this list could easily break free if they wished.

Lissandra is similar to malz in that she is a servant for a more powerful force. But the Watchers were defeated, and do not appear to be active in Runeterra currently. Should they return, then Lissandra would be a force. But until then she is still far too limited in her goals to actually achieve victory.

Takeuchi 171 votes

fair points

Laughing Fish1 votes

Always up for a good lore debate :D

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

Its a weird "power" list if you ask me... Because its seems more like a "knowledge" list.

Xerath > Nasus = (>)Renekton > Azir (Even if Azir is the actual Emperor, Nasus and Renekton have more experience, and Xerath reached a Perfect Asention)

Viktor > Jayce > Rumble > Heimerdinger > Ziggs (Even if Heimer is actually Smarter than Jayce, Rumble and Viktor) (If we consider skins and "Alternative Universes" from the future (Battlecast / Mecha / Fullmetal), the list would be: BC Viktor > Rumble > Heimerdinger = Ziggs > Jayce )

Bard > Karthus = (>)Soraka > Veigar > Syndra (Even if Veigar has the potential to kill them all and be stronger, its just potential)

Chogath >RekSai > Velkoz > Malzahar = Kassadin > Khazix > KogMaw (Kogmaw and KhaZix have the potential to reach more power than Chogath: Kogmaw because he is the son of one of the most powerful voidborns, and KhaZix can evolve constantly. VelKoz may be smart and powerfull, but he KNOWS that Reksai and Cho are stronger than him, in fact, Reksai has an "army" of voidmonsters)

And about Zilean Zilean... you are wrong about his powers. He cant "reverse time back to a point when he was still alive", he is SICK with a disease called "chrono-displasia", that disease makes him immortal. And he has NO CONTROL of the "ability" of seeing the future... his desease is similar to the Alzheimer but inverted... he sees the future instead of the past. Zilean cant time travel or anything like that... he only watch the time pass.

Laughing Fish1 votes

True power requires knowledge. You can have immense strength like Renekton, or numbers like Rek'Sai, but victory has always favored the intelligent. Now, intelligence alone is certainly not enough. Power is the combination of a great deal of attributes. And you are right, Rek'Sai and Cho'Gath are stronger than Vel'Koz. But as you said Vel'Koz knows this. He would never fight them in a fair battle, as they would crush him. Because he would take the time to find a way to defeat them, he is more powerful. Let's take Humans compared to Bears for example. If I just ran up to a bear and started punching it, what would happen? I would die, that's what. But I am smart enough not to do that. I could set traps, or use a gun on the bear. I have overcome my weakness with intelligence. That is why Vel'Koz is rated higher than the other voidborn.

And Zilean has very limited control over nearby time. Even limited control over time is more than most mages will ever reach.

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

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True power requires knowledge. You can have immense strength like Renekton, or numbers like Rek'Sai, but victory has always favored the intelligent. Now, intelligence alone is certainly not enough. Power is the combination of a great deal of attributes. And you are right, Rek'Sai and Cho'Gath are stronger than Vel'Koz. But as you said Vel'Koz knows this. He would never fight them in a fair battle, as they would crush him. Because he would take the time to find a way to defeat them, he is more powerful. Let's take Humans compared to Bears for example. If I just ran up to a bear and started punching it, what would happen? I would die, that's what. But I am smart enough not to do that. I could set traps, or use a gun on the bear. I have overcome my weakness with intelligence. That is why Vel'Koz is rated higher than the other voidborn.

And Zilean has very limited control over nearby time. Even limited control over time is more than most mages will ever reach.

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Even if someone is smart, there are things that they cant do. In the AMA of RekSai, they said that VelKoz cant defeat her, and he is awarded of that.

Oh, and about Karthus... did you know that he was killed by Malzahar and Kassadin in the old lore? and the fact that he cant revive by himself?

insaiyanbacca2 votes

imo this list needs Xerath

Laughing Fish1 votes

Xerath is certainly powerful. I debated for awhile on whether or not he should bump Veiger off the list. I just feel that despite his immense power, his focus is far to much on himself. He runs into the exact same problem Veiger does. Eventually I decided Veiger should go above him as they both are madmen that managed to hijack great power, but Veiger managed to hijack a far more unique magic, and managed to corrupt the power of the stars themselves with his power. I am adding an honorable mention for Xerath though.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

well that is a great explanation. thanks for the insight on why he isn't on the list

Laughing Fish1 votes

I am always up to debate some lore man. I am honestly surprised nobody has criticized Viktor for being placed so high lol.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

well actually with the explanation you gave for him and what people know about him through reading lore it makes sense for him to be pretty high on this list. and the idea that every battle or fight he wins he adds more to his numbers besides those that maybe willingly join the evolution

Laughing Fish1 votes

Exactly! You get it. Viktor can snowball his power like nobodies business. Once his armies reach a critical mass, I don't think anyone could stop him. The only reason Karthus is rated higher is because Karthus doesn't have to worry about energy, and because Karthus (being a lich) may (although unlikely) be able to convince Viktor to join him. Karthus is tricky like that lol

insaiyanbacca1 votes

yeah it makes sense for karth to be a bit more powerful in that he doesn't have to worry about the whole energy problem that viktor does, and that he is pretty tricky. and yeah i absolutely love lore i spent probably my first few months reading every lore in the game lol, while i may not be entirely happy with the retcon that happened i think riot is trying their best to make it work and im happy about it.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Well the complete Retcon should come at some point later this year. Their plan was to rewrite everything to make all the outdated elements flow together with the new ones, but they stopped about halfway. It appears they are building to something large though, and I look forwards to seeing what comes from it.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

yeah it feels like they are building up something and i am pretty excited because its probably gonna be really cool and yeah i understand they want to make everything flow together and i was pretty happy with that shurima update kinda, im still a bit confused on rammus' place in the lore right now but im pretty happy with the way they want the lore to go

Laughing Fish1 votes

Since they are kind of at a midway point, several champions are kind of just in limbo. I personally am hoping the retcon leads to some kind of animated series.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

Hmm an animated series could be really cool.

Laughing Fish1 votes

Indeed it could be. Rito certainly has the resources to make one.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

Yeah I could get behind one. They could animate it the same way they are doing the cinematics or maybe they could even go with the type of animating style used in avatar the last airbender or lok. I would definitely be excited for it

SEKAI2 votes

It should be more like this tbh,

Things that can not completely known like Celestial beings (which are basically gods) should be top, followed by Ascended (who are demigods), alongside nasty ghosts, phantom and powerful undead of some sort, then we talk about mortals.

EDIT: Maybe this list needs to consider Brand Fiddlesticks Hecarim Kalista Kassadin Kayle Lissandra Malphite Maokai Nocturne Thresh and maybe MonkeyKing

StellarPrime1 votes

Why do sooo many people overlook a champion like Zyra? I feel that not enough people give her any credit to her age and potential knowledge and power. She's centuries old, even prehistoric looking xD. She's more than just a petty plant lady. I mean come on T.T

Narasimha2 votes

Too much of your list is "In the future" and "maybe" and "If he does this..." Basically, too much conjecture. The list should always be CURRENT, who is the most powerful under as normal a circumstance as possible. Otherwise, I can say "Well, if Gangplank finds another gateway to the Void and absorbs its power, he'd actually be the strongest guy around."

We're not talking about armies, or infinite power, or anything like that. What it boils down to is simply "If you had a tournament, who would consistently end up the winner?"

Laughing Fish1 votes

Well unfortunately Rito is not giving out a whole lot of "current" information. And if Gangplank actually had the ability to absorb the power of the void (which is something nobody has been able to do. Kassadin and Malz simply channels it, they don't possess it), and was actively attempting to open it, and had a very good chance at success, then maybe he would be considered very powerful. But he doesn't have that ability, so that argument is moot.

Narasimha1 votes

A more realistic example then. Udyr is able to gain the power of THE spirit of Nature itself, gaining dominance over all flora and fauna. That would probably put him at number 2, at the least. Maybe number 1, depending on how exotic Runeterra's animals and plants are.

Laughing Fish1 votes

He can summon the power of nature, this is true. But Lissandra killed a Spirit Walker herself. They are fearsome fighters, but compared to the more.. unnatural forces they simply could not compete.

Trylobyte2 votes

I posted in another thread that 'power' isn't simply one thing. Power is multifaceted - There's physical power, mental power, magical power, political power, organizational power, financial power, etc. This makes power lists really hard to define - Is someone like Syndra, with nearly limitless magical power but nothing else, really stronger than someone like Jarvan IV, who isn't as individually impressive but has the resources of a world power behind him? It makes for some interesting discussions.

With that in mind, here are some (unranked) honorable mention candidates worthy of consideration.

  • JarvanIV - As Prince of one of Runeterra's largest city-states he commands a lot of respect and has a lot of authority. He has huge amounts of resources and entire armies to throw at problems, including many other champions - Garen, Lux, Shyvana, and Quinn all answer to him directly and Galio, Xin Zhao, and Fiora would probably obey him without question as well. When you can throw that amount of talent at a problem you can all but guarantee it's going to go away pretty quickly.

  • Swain - A tactical genius, or so we're told, he's the other major leader of Runeterra. Though he doesn't command the loyalty and devotion of his men, especially his fellow Champions, quite like Jarvan does, he still has access to a pretty big pool of talent in the form of Sion, Darius, Draven, and possibly LeBlanc, and a city-state's resources to throw at any problem he might find. If he can persuade the less-loyal elements of Noxus to side with him he'd be a very frightening enemy - Whoever he's facing best not let their guard down, ever, lest they find themselves face to knife with the likes of Katarina or Talon.

  • Kayle - Very hard to place in the new environment since much of her old lore was retconned and no new lore has been added, but if we count it she'd definitely be up there. Individually she's far more powerful than we've ever seen on the Rift - She's used Intervention on six people simultaneously before (during Maokai's introduction). On top of that, her armor is indestructible and she's immune to nearly every malady that affects normal people. Combined with great charisma, strong leadership skills, the ability to rally people to her cause, and ten thousand years of warfare experience, Kayle would be a formidable adversary for anyone... and that's not counting what she has back home.

  • Aatrox - One of your own honorable mentions, Aatrox is a decisive leader who rallies his soldiers and inspires them on to bloody, savage, violent, rage-fueled victory. Aatrox has been responsible for the destruction of entire civilizations and that's a power that has to be respected. Perhaps not the best individual fighter among the champions but definitely up there, he makes up for it with an uncanny ability to inspire fanaticism in those he chooses to ally with and the power to corrupt them utterly and bring them to his way of thinking without any significant effort. You do not want to see this being at the head of any army heading your way.

The Soulforged1 votes

Don't forget the fact that if Karthus chooses to fully sing requiem, everyone will die.

GreenLore1 votes

I dunno where everyone gets this information. I've searched through the internet,but nowhere does it say that he could potentially kill all living things with just one full requiem....

GreenLore1 votes

I disagree greatly.

I mean first of all,Nasus and Renekton fought together against Xerath and were only able to seal Xerath through Renektons sacrifice,so why would we assume that Xerath is weaker than nasus?I mean ok you have a point that nasus most likely became stronger after xerath was imprisoned,but we can't be sure if he became that much stronger by now(and well the same goes for azir,why would he be stronger than xerath,who overpowered 2 legendary heroes?)

I am not so sure about Heimerdinger too,I mean Heimerdinger is a genius which would be a great help in battle,but he is also known to be rather.....confused,I mean he was trying to built a ball thrower machine that was so strong that it could be used as a turret to scare of a giant.He is the kind of professor who more or less misses his actual goal,but creates something great anyway.

I'd also argue about Malzahar.He isn't able to control the horrors of the void at all(which is reflected in his gameplay,as you can't control the voidlings),he is merely seen as an ally by them and other than that there isn't anything about him that strikes me as especially powerful.He is allied with extremely powerful beings,but that doesn't mean he is one himself.

Zileans control over time is also very limited,he can see into his past,or rather he experiences his past over and over again,which is in my opinion a serious weakness,but he can't see into the future and his reversing time powers are probably very limited too.

The problem I see with vel'koz is that he has to disintegrate you first to find your weaknesses,so he has to analyze you during battle,but squishy mages aren't the most suited for longer battles.

I agree about Viktor being a big threat to the world,however I wouldn't really count his army as part of his power.If that was the case,then we could also say that swain is one of the most powerful characters because he has the whole noxian army under his command(or the shadow isles who literally grow stronger with every victory)

And then we have karthus.You make it sound like karthus gets stronger with every person he kills and that he has his personal army of undead,but the thing is that there isn't anything to really support this,as karthus isn't shown to control the undead at any point(unlike Mordekaiser and Yorick).

Overall I'd say that karthus,Nasus and Zilean all have incredibly powerful magic at their hands(with time and death magic),but they also have their limits,so just because they use impressive kinds of magic doesn't mean they can actually use them to their fullest potential.

Gladston1 votes

a simple question at you laughing fish .... couldnt Heimerdinger do the same as victor ? he is more / equally intelligent and has definitly more knowledg, moreover in my opinion victor is far 2 much focused on robotic improvments. He does care for biologie or physics. There Heimerdinger shines. So bassicaly Heimerdinger has the same options as Viktor plus other sientific fields

ps: sorry for my english

Fasmodey1 votes

Xerath is easily top 2 or 1. But you didn't even add him in top 10. Logic.

Also Syndra is probably in top 5. Floating a castle is not easy you know.

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