I'm just curious as to what everyone wants from a Cho update. From visual to skills, everything.
I want to know what skills you think need to stay, what needs to go, what you think he could do instead.
It would be a bonus if you could share drawings/pictures of what you want him to look like.
Winged Hussars8 votesCho'Gath has proven time and time again to have a kit that really works for what it is meant to do. He's a crazy anti-caster with amazing zone potential due to threat of incredible burst damage. He's always really strong whenever burst casters are really strong, which means that his niche is very well fulfilled. If anything I just want a VU to make him look more bulky instead of spindly and more kaiju-esque.
Young Kush Clop8 votesCho does not need a rework. I like him how he is, maybe a new in-game appearance but that's all.
TheI3igDaddy1 votesThis. Cho is completely balanced right now. The only thing he needs a visual upgrade and maybe a more consistent Q hitbox.
Chicken Sailor3 votesI think his kit is pretty decent as is. Although early game it sucks using one Q and watching half your mana bar disappear
DSRM Mobius1 votesI have that problem all the time his Q should cost way less mana, because you can use it twice and then all your mana is gone.
Maximum Can2 voteshis Q is insanely powerful, the manacost is justified. you shouldn't be allowed to spam that shit all day long unless you itemize for it. ˙͜>˙
Drogmyre1 votesRegardless, at least early game, he shouldn't go completely OOM for using 2 spells. That's just retarded no matter how good the skill is. I can understand a high cost for his higher ranks, but at lv 1 the mana cost is just utterly stupid.
DSRM Mobius2 votesI think his E should be changed to a rout or a blind or it should deal more damage because his E deals no damage
Maximum Can2 voteswhile we're at it, let's make the radius of his Q more like 1000. and his W should just delete one of your opponent's skills forever, even in future games. and his ult just kills the champ irl and they're removed from the league.
Garentheon2 votesVU.
Squeaky Dreemurr2 votesA VU to match his menacing new splash would be awesome... In regards to kit, I've always felt Cho'Gaths kit was kind of old and awkward looking. The instant true damage ult seems a little cheesy, but I guess it fits him thematically (eating his prey). I think the best thing Riot can do is give him new (realistic looking) animations and particle effects for his current kit. His Rupture is the one ability that I would change. I think circle-based skill shots feel too "gamey" and not quite realistic or engaging enough for my tastes. Something like Yasuo's Steel Tempest, Braum's Glacial Fissure, or Gnar's Wallop would add a more interesting game dynamic than yet another circle skill shot.
Pryotra2 votesHe is like anivia.
Mana cost updates and new particles are all he needs.
PhoenixSlayer132 votesI really, really like Cho's kit in general, though I'd like if he was encouraged to be in close-range combat more often that currently.
Visually is where Cho needs the most love. He feels just a little too spindly right now, and he just kinda increases in size with stacks. I'd love to see his model evolve with his Feast stacks, like IronStylus suggested. He starts off small but disturbing, but eventually turns into an absolutely horrifying Lovecraftian kaiju that absolutely NO ONE wants to run into.
Also, his Q really needs to tie into his biology. I love Battlecast Cho's Q, because it makes sense. Just stomping the ground and making spikes pop up... not so much. I'd also like to see his tail used for something.
Nubeel1 votesHow about he sends his tail into the ground and it knocks things up. Kind of how baron's knock up works.
TerraRising1 votesI would like to see Cho'Gath's reworked lore to really emphasize the "Returning mega menace" that's implied in his kit. A monster that grows the more he eats until he becomes so big that it takes a united front from Valoran to completely stop him. Only Cho'gath respawns back to Icathia to begin his frenzy all over again.
Not to the ridiculous levels of Sin from Final Fantasy X, but something akin to Valoran's version of Godzilla.
Darth Pixy Misa1 votesMs is all that Cho needs. Giving feast a cap of 20 and a 1/3 stack loss at death would be nice tho.
Maximum Can1 voteslol wat, 3000 bonus health from one skill = balanced. yep
Drogmyre1 votesDon't forget the size increase.
Battle Carrier Cho'Gath is now online: 3 ADCs, a healer, and Cho'Gath's retardedly massive hitbox covering EVERYONE ELSE... oh god lol
Toa of Death1 votesMaybe have his Q cost a little less mana. Increase his stacks to 20 or so. Make his Q logical, right now he stomps his foot and spikes appear. where did the spikes come from? That's what they did right on BCP Cho, giving all his abilities anatomy.
Maximum Can1 votesyou don't mean 20 stacks of his ult do you? :L
Drogmyre1 votesAs much as I love Cho'Gath, the thought of his ult stacking more than about 10 makes me think 2 things immediately:
1st: RIP everyone's hitboxes, we have fucking Godzilla stomping down your lane. GG WP.
2nd: Holy dear sweet mother of god Cho would be able to solo every single fucking tower without any minions or fucks left to give consecutively.
However, the concept of having Cho'Gath get big enough to feasibly cover the entire fucking map leaves me rolling on the floor laughing.
GreenLore1 votesDunno if his skills need to be reworked that much,I think some rebalancing is all he needs.
Storywise I would like it if they keep him more intelligent and make him even malevolent(he really seems to be the only really evil voidbeing,with the others it looks more like they simply act on instinct)
Modelwise,he should look more monstrous(I think the new splash art is pretty good at that) and he really needs a bigger standard model(or his first form must look like some kind of early stage of his evolution)
Darth Pixy Misa1 votesI think it is more fair than Nasus and Veigar, they have infinite stacks and they dont lose them when they die. Another aspect of balance to this is that Vayne, Garen and a few others have skills that do percent hp damage, BOTRK does %hp damage too.
Frankly a team should be punished if they let a cho get 20 stacks and about 6000hp.
Maximum Can1 votesand what if cho just uses ult on jungle creeps? how do you propose getting rid of 10,000 hp on an enormous tank (who also has powerful ranged cc and an execute) without the rest of his team tearing you apart in the meantime?
all they'd have to do is buy a thornmail and grab two or three of the HP+armor items and nobody could kill him.
5G8Nri0B541 votesJust visual? Or total update?
For just visual, A Q THAT IS VISUALLY LOGICAL. Try to give him something more convincing than stomping to create spikes far away.
Total update.....make him less of a mage and more of a get into your face and wreck shit champion. Theoretically he still does that now, but he has one too many long ranged nuke and not enough of biting the opponents face like his R. And he only starts being that a little later than it should.
He has a massive prominent tail and he doesnt use it!
Kingsgrave1 votesI want his passive to be buffed and his vorpal spikes to be reworked into something flashier and everything else is okay
4nth0l0gy1 votesCho's hitboxes really need to be clarified. They're just really wonky right now. VU would be sufficient I think, save for his ult, which should stack even if it doesn't deal the killing blow.
Nubeel1 votesMaybe he gets a maximum health cap instead of a stack cap. So if he eats a minion with 963 HP he gains let's say 97 HP or something. And he would have size thresholds based on the amount of matter he devours.
I don't like the way his current ult works. You're the tank but you're scared of dying because then you'd have to spend 2 minutes getting your lost stacks back.
Boohya1 votesCho'Gath was my first champion, and while his kit is "ok" as is, i feel like there is some room for improvement or just change to his kit in general. ill list out a few things that i feel that could be usefull in his kit. (none of these concepts are made to work with each other, just random ideas)
a GAPCLOSER, seriously, everyone and their uncle has a gapcloser(or movespeed buff) or something: i just... i donno... maybe make his q a burrow ability that has him travel to the targeted area that ends with a knockup. but his original q range is massive. hmmm, it would be the a bit op, like tristana's jump (he can literally just leave the lane.no idea where he goes.)
maybe more power behind his ult, scales his abilities power or form as he grows. larger q radius or larger shout radius.
i feel like his scream in general needs love, maybe a range aspect at stacks 3, a fear aspect at level 6.
Gholem1 votesHis kit is good overall, but I think he might need some escape/gap closer since he needs to maintain his stack...
I mean, it's so much loss after Cho dies...half the stacks just goes away like that...
I'm not asking for huge buff, but something which Cho can just make escape about rather than getting close to an enemy and kill him.
Even though I don't think just normal gap closer can be given to Cho just like that...maybe a flash-like skill which can only be used with health lower than 25%
If not, I just think visual upgrade would just be fine...right now, I'm quite surprised at how Cho managed to look good till now, but his e...c'mon, that looks pretty bad and his q just don't make any sense: where do the spikes come from?
Nubeel1 votesI'd like him to start of larger and in general have bulkier limbs. At level one my opponent simply doesn't see me as a terrifying horror that will eat his team. I'm just a void lizard that knocks him up every now and then.
