Theory/Specualtion: Yordles are Targonians

Stars Shaper·Apr 16, 2016·3 votes·2,842 views

Or (More likely) a race who had lived along them (probvably as pets).

http://st.elohell.net/public/chill/c8a573684c9d792868b40616fe6b1481.jpg

We know really few things about these cheerful, crazy and capable shorties and the retcon has also shaded some of the informations we have but lets list some facts:

They are fairly older than humans as a race and their lifespan far outweights the humans'.
They are among the only who have space-like technology.
They have connections with some spiritual realms (they might actually be spirits themselves).
Poppy in particular is hinted to know about Targonian Gems (To be taken really careful).

Now, I didn't take much time exploring the lore, the interactions and the connections of all the Yordles. Yet I wanted to expose this crazy theory and see how you guys find it.

(Any more skilled Theoryst is welcome if he wants to explore it more :3).

18 Comments

SharjoApr 16, 20163 votes

I'm more inclined to believe that if any race lived alongside the Targonians, it was the darkin, not the yordles. Given how yordles only started developing in to any kind of culture and society around the time the Frozen Watcher's held dominion over the Freljord, which was during a time period where humans were the dominant species on Runeterra, I feel it's much more likely that yordles were in a state similar to Gnar's mega form when the Targonians were around on Runeterra.

Given the fact we know so little about how yordles work in the new canon, especially when considering Bandle City as a whole, it's difficult to speculate, but my thoughts are either that the yordle space faring technology (the mothership) is either not going to be a thing anymore or be a symbol of yordle ingenuity and their potential as a people, where they look at the mother ship and remember that yordle were able to do that, and as such can really make anything happen.

Nah I feel there's not much connecting Targonians to yordles, especially considering that, right now, the timeline of events doesn't really favour this theory given how Gnar lived in the ancient past. No I'd reckon that the physical similarities between the golden skinned boy from the Targonians and Aatrox is something that could help shed some insight on how the Targonians worked in the ancient past, but that's just me.

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

I read your thread about Darkins and Targonian and I agree that they surely shared this planet at that time.

SharjoApr 16, 20161 votes

I mean pre-human history on Runeterra is such a nebulous area that you can't help but formulate theories about it, right?

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

Indeed xD And the "void" about Yordles helps too. I also am wondering about Soraka since Riot and Aurelion Sol seem to know a lot of things we don't.

SharjoApr 16, 20161 votes

Soraka's been an interesting case ever since Bard popped up really, but the issue's been exacerbated far more by the implications presented by Aurelion Sol. How she fits in to the grand scheme of the stars now is definetly worth thinking about.

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

Right now stars can produce:

Matter, as in our world they are the reason for the existance of planets and life
Gems! "Stopping" starlight produces a crystal which is the catalyst of Taric's power
Life forms, both Soraka and "The Protector" fall under this category as the latter is basically an Algalon of Runeterra.

Both enetities also seem to be caretakers of the planet something which might mean that they are indeed new life forms created by the "love" and "wonder" which Aurelion puts into making stars as they are "one of his hearts".

SharjoApr 16, 20161 votes

Kinda wondering now if there's a universal opposition to celestial energy, and I'm not talking about the Void since they're more like all comsuming invaders from another dimension. I mean more like an all encompassing darkness; something similar to anti-matter or dark matter in concept. I'd imagine beings like that looking like the Voidwalkers and Voidlords of WoW, and for that kind of force to be similar to WoW's Void in that it's kinda like the opposition of all things physical and material in nature.

http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2016/april/voidwalker.jpg

Maybe the Void does encompass that and the beings we see exist different back in the Void, with their current shapes being adapted to survive and thrive in a more physical universe, I mean we've already seen Voidborn undergoing rapid body changes upon entering Runeterra from Diana's short story. It's interesting to think about.

This is also why I've loved new champions lately; Bard, Kindred, Illaoi and Aurelion Sol all give their own insight in to how the greater scheme of things work in the League universe, and that's the kind of thing that really excites me when going in to any kind of fantasy universe.

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

AurelionSol "Darkness is my true enemy...."

That puts a great emphasis on Zed and Nocturne . Shadow and Darkness could be the antithesis.

Voidlings are out of the question unless the one met by Aurelion in Twin Dawns shows something different. They all seem to be beasts driven by the prima instinct of consuming.

Nagakabouros is a sort of primordial god which pregnates and grows as a "benefic" Old God in the universe.

The "Cosmic" theme is exactly what made me decide this Summoner Name and drove me into maining Xerath. I feel like each time one of these higher ups gets added to the roster we get to add more power to the actual level of Xerath as he can "see the forces that holds the universe together". The Lore of Aurelion Sol is one of the best I've ever read.

SharjoApr 16, 20161 votes

Speaking of Xerath, I'm wondering if there's a link between his pure arcane power and celestial energy. Maybe there's some major connection between the powers wielded by Soraka, Bard and Aurelion Sol and the world of magic. In my mind I'm speculating about the Magical Friction in conjunction with this celestial power and how that could be the origin of magic in all its wonderous forms, but I dunno.

Nagakabouros is something I really want to know more about. I mean Aurelion Sol, a being who constantly mocks and berates these lowly humans comes to almost ridicule Illaoi for her lack of understanding, almost as if he's insulted by what he percieves to be a lack of it on her part, even though he's likely just another part of the cycle that Nagakabouros embodies.

...Also I'd like a Mother Serpent skin for Aurelion Sol, because I feel like that'd be awesome.

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

If we are lucky the next Shurima lore event will shed some light into it if we get Xerath long bio. I'm more and more of the idea that Xerath used the power of all the celestial bodies he could to empower the Ascension ritual rather than limiting it to the Sun and thus the outcome he had.

The Friction/Magic relationship is a really interesting one but I gues we'll have to wait quite a bit for any more informations about it.

I usually don't like the "tropical spiritualism" as a matter of personal taste but I find intriguing the nature of Nagakabouros and that Aurelion Sol knows it well enough to make a judgement on Illaoi's belief. I guess we'll get a "Stormborn Aurelion Sol" skin before anything else for obvious reasons though :P

Ebonmaw DragonApr 16, 20163 votes

I do feel that at least one yordle has a conection with the Targonians in the new lore, and that yordle is the master of Evil.

Veigar

He has traveled across the land in order to learn about dark magics. One of those dark magics that he learned are the ones of the cosmos, corruption of the cosmic energy to be exact.

The cosmic energy is used by cosmic beings, such as Soraka, Bard and Aurelion Sol... but who taught Veigar about the cosmic energy?

Well, as far as we know, there are only 2 civilizations in Runeterra that have used the cosmic powers: Shurima with the Sun Disk and Targon.

Considering that the magic of the Sun Disk was only available for "important" people and its only focused arround the Sun, and not black holes or other cosmic things, i doubt that Veigar learned about the cosmic magic in Shurima

So... i guess that he learned about the cosmic energy in Targon... Maybe he learned from the Targonians since he is super old... or maybe he is an aspect of evil black holes and no one knows.

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

That's indeed an interesting discussion expecially since his magic revolves around gravity and dark matter.

JayHog1992Apr 16, 20161 votes

How would Gnar fit into this? He's pre-historic, so unless the Targonians existed since THAT long...

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

Gnar could fit in as primitive societies fit in our world.

DigielfApr 16, 20161 votes

I think you missed this

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Bandle_City

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

I think that most of that has been retconned. I don't know how much of that (pretty sure about the locations as the map is going to be updated and Riot stated several times that the old one isn't canon anymore).

Plus Riot seems to be pushing Yordles into a more peculiar thing rather than nomad-happy-smurf family.

DigielfApr 16, 20162 votes

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I think that most of that has been retconned. I don't know how much of that (pretty sure about the locations as the map is going to be updated and Riot stated several times that the old one isn't canon anymore).

Plus Riot seems to be pushing Yordles into a more peculiar thing rather than nomad-happy-smurf family.

the major cities are still canon, yordles homeland is bandle city they have nothing to do with targon

Stars ShaperApr 16, 20161 votes

Considering that we still don't know how far back in time Targonians were on Runeterra it might be that the current generation of Yordles might know some of their tech and other things without actually remebering why.

Bandle city might be the current Yordle city but nothing denies that they might be around when Targon was there.