Kled invalidating Veigar?

Marbelara·7/25/2016, 7:44:13 PM·3 votes·1,645 views

I've a concern I want to share with the narrative.

Although some people wanted a Noxian yordle for a long time, and now that Kled's out he's proving himself to be quirky, well-designed and fun, I can't shake the feeling that something's wrong about him. How to put it...

As someone I know has said, "If he is Noxian, then Kled invalidates the ever living fuck out of Veigar and the shit Noxus put him through."

And the thing is, he kinda does. His origin, unless played cleverly, will be at odds with the estabilished treatment of Yordles in Noxus, and my concern is that instead of accomodating to the already existing Veigar with his long-standing, deeply involving lore, the entire incident will be retconned in favor of Kled, while Veigar's lore will be placed as non canon.

I mean, I would think that noooo, Riot wouldn't do that. I mean, Veigar is surprisingly popular! He has a lot of fans who are endeared to his looks, character and history... His kit was made to be less toxic and more entertaining in the Mage update, plus he is sometimes used in competitive, like back in the 2015 Championships... Why would something like that happen?

But Riot also has a habit of completely overlooking this guy. I mean, as far as I remember, his 7th birthday was yesterday, and he still has his original jittery model, with only some texture tweaks and a pretty splash. He's a potato with legs. Lore events? None, except a hilarious failure at stealing a Spaceship (with baloons) that no longer exists. Champion callouts? HA, you wish. He's the wizard of space but the resident SPACE DRAGON would rather talk to 7 year old girls than adress him. I'm not sure when he is due for a VU and a new VO, but due to the VGU preference of Rioters it's not coming anytime soon.

So, once again. Due to the above, I fear Veigar will be once again overlooked and the sense of his backstory will be lost in favor of Kled. And I have one plea. Please don't. If you plan on making it an awesome story that respects both characters and my post here is unneeded than thank god, I'll gladly take it all back.

But if not... item 3073

14 Comments

InhaleMyGayWhale7/25/2016, 7:46:35 PM3 votes

But Riot also has a habit of completely overlooking this guy

Maybe because he is too short to be seen?

Mistress Shyvana7/25/2016, 7:50:34 PM3 votes

Also as we can see Kled is too fucking SAVAGE so Noxus fears him. Veigar got bullied into being a beast. Kled just is.

Ebonmaw Dragon7/25/2016, 8:30:30 PM3 votes

Even in the old lore, Noxian Yordles were a thing... So, Kled do not invalidate the lore of Veigar.

OurLestrade7/25/2016, 7:52:08 PM2 votes

I've always dreamed of Noxus as a Warhammer-esque glory to humanity sort of faction. Not only does Kled sort of poop on that, but he potentially kills my dream for a Noxian support character with a military officer theme since he's sort of stepping into that too. Make me a little mad.

JayHog19927/25/2016, 8:27:38 PM1 votes

Veigar and Teemo alike. Only like 1-2 champions mention him and they still look like fat potatoes from the beta...

I just hope Riot does an event like burning tides, but for yordles only and it would involve these two. Maybe even make it end in a VU for both.

ziggsplosive7/25/2016, 10:56:23 PM1 votes

Veigar was mistreated by Noxus because he was involved in a shady business deal and took the fall for it. Noxus is presented as pretty racist and elitist. But when it comes down to it they accept anyone who proves they are strong and worth notice. It doesn't really invalidate Veigar that Kled has a position in Noxus. If anything it further proves what Noxus is. Veigar was naive enough to fall into a trap so he went to jail for it. Kled, as far as we know from what little information we have from VO and short summary, came to Noxus to kick some teeth in. Had he failed I doubt Noxus would have given him the time of day.

GreenLore7/25/2016, 9:10:14 PM1 votes

Not every noxian will hate Yordles. The guys who imprisoned veigar might have been racists,but that doesn't mean that every noxian is like that.

Also Kled isn't necessarily part of the noxian army anymore,meaning that the racism could also be a new thing.

Meep Man7/25/2016, 9:15:11 PM1 votes

Noxian hates weakness and Kled is not weakness. They may not like yordles, butt apparently they love strength more than they hate yordles. Veigar wasn't strong or anything when he was captured, so they treated him like crap.

Felvyne7/25/2016, 10:16:19 PM1 votes

I don't think Kled invalidates Veigar because it's an accepted yordle.

Kled won respect by his bloodshed. He is fiercy, he is kinda mad, he is the kind that noxians love. But Veigar was, instead (if I don't remember wrongly) a scholar-like (not that he was a scholar, was a merchant? But he was calm, pacifist... those). And that's pretty bad among noxians, so he was the perfect objective to bully.