Oh no, you are not going to tell me this is true!

Stars Shaper·Nov 6, 2017·4 votes·1,447 views

I hope this is just her and Targon view on the matter and wanting to minimize Aurelion Sol power.

27 Comments

IgotlazyNov 6, 20173 votes

Ya honestly I agree. I was just sitting through her Aurelion lines going "If he didn't have that crown on, he'd blast you and every other Targonian to smithereens".

FasmodeyNov 6, 20173 votes

I remember a rioter saying Aurelion Sol did not made all of the stars. He forges stars, creates them, has unimaginable powers but he still did not create all stars.

I think it is because stars have self-creation that doesn't require Aurelion Sol. Like a real star in our universe. Extremely huge amount of matter collapses and creates star.

It was unlikely for Aurelion Sol to create all stars anyway. Universe is so huge even giving only 1 second for each star would overpass his life-time. And I really really don't think a star is able to be created in 1 second.

TheHappyReaperzNov 6, 20173 votes

Targon is a literal mountain of lies. Trust nothing those heretics tell you.

Warlord DienekesNov 6, 20172 votes

Heh, even the “good innocent” aspect acts like a bitch to their slaves.

More proof that the Aspects are all bitches and I for one will not shed a tear when Sol or the Void destroys them all.

RalanrNov 7, 20171 votes

You know how good someone is based on how they treat the waiter.

I hope Atreus mounts a revolt and Leona and Diana take full control of their aspects.

Taric seems alright.

TrolosaurusNov 6, 20171 votes

mfw Zoe is now strongest canon character

[sg-ahri-1]

Stars ShaperNov 6, 20172 votes

Aurelion Sol still wins, he doesn't incenerite them all just because he would lose an equal number of stars because of the crown/spell.

Rude NameNov 7, 20172 votes

Nah, Zoe is Bard level. Technically, those two are the most powerful, but they don’t give a damn about it, because they don’t take sides.

Hence, Aurelion is the most powerful.

Jeddy017Nov 6, 20171 votes

Wait, so Targon see A. Sol as nothing more than a pet or something? A giant space dragon that can create fucking stars & been around for eons is like a dog to them? Holy shit, these guys are on a whole 'nother level. Or at least Zoe is, but she is just a messenger soooo......damn.

What the fuck are these Targonians?

Stars ShaperNov 6, 20171 votes

Aurelion Sol Lore goes that he found Targonians who already were able to traverse space, he took a liking in them and helped them develop even more.

Then for a reason we don't know (but most likely Targonians being in a desperate fight against the Void), they gifted him a star gemmed crown which is now used as a leash to bid Aurelion Sol to their will (see the Twin Dawns story where an older incarnation of Pantheon commands Aurelion Sol to sear a Void rift). This is the reason A-Sol hates them, and they also seem to be even more arrogant than him about their power.

IgotlazyNov 6, 20176 votes

I honestly think they've just become so accustom to him being under their control, that they don't see him as a danger to themselves.

Jeddy017Nov 6, 20172 votes

True, if you manage to keep a T-Rex under your control for several decades, you eventually start to not see it as a threat. Though said T-Rex is secretly plotting to escape from your control & probably turn against you.

FasmodeyNov 6, 20173 votes

Aurelion Sol will be their doom and they are not even worried about it. (enough)

Free Aurelion Sol can make them go extinct.

Arrogance is a sharp knife under the throat ready to cut it deeply.

Beyond LegendsNov 7, 20171 votes

Well depends how strong the targonian have gotten during the time of Aurellion sol enslavement. I'd imagine they do have some sort of counter messure for when A sol does break out.

ForgottenLuckNov 7, 20171 votes

I mean? She is a god, I don't get the problem? It's not the other aspects that are only inhabiting humans in it, she is almost like Bard, using portals to travel between them

Stars ShaperNov 7, 20172 votes

She is a god by human canons, Targonians are just what Stargate egyptian-like "Gods" are: A space travelling race with longer life spans with some cosmic magic added. And most of it comes from the knowledge Aurelion Sol gave them anyway.

As some1 else put it, Targon is playing a cosmic Jurassic Park with Aurelion Sol and only recently they relized their grip on him is deteriorating. PLus Aurelion SOl is actively trying to undo their leash.

ForgottenLuckNov 7, 20171 votes

Huh? I might need you to explain it a bit clearer to me for this. Since the beings such as Bearded Lady, A Sol, and Bard are all beings that can be called Gods of Runeterra, they are not beings that got their power from someone else like the aspects, which are gods inhabiting the mortal realm by giving their power to a human, with the only clear exception being Pantheon as he takes a bit more direct control of them, that those of Leona, Taric or Diana.

But when was it ever stated that they got this power by Sol? ASol inhabits the world of Mortals, which is why he seems so omnipotent, but the original beings, those that are giving their power to Leo, Taric and Diana, are still in the Celestial Realm, with apparently no way of coming to Runeterra. Only big exceptions to these are Bard and Zoe, two who travel through the portals and holes of the universe, and managed to make way into Runeterra. Pantheon could be argued a bit since he takes complete control but those bodies he inhabits is still mortal, his OG body is in another reality. It makes complete sense that Zoe can be just as strong if not stronger than Asol

Ebonmaw DragonNov 7, 20172 votes

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the aspects, which are gods

This is where you are wrong, "Targonians" are a race of creatures born in Runeterra that reached the power of travel through space and things like that, so, they left Runeterra after "controlling" Aurelion Sol (with that weird crown that he has).

They are basically aliens now, sure, aliens that are seen as gods by the people who lives in Targon now and can take control over people, but they are not real gods as Bard. Bard is a Celestial being, "Targonians" arent. Zoe is a "Targonian"

ForgottenLuckNov 7, 20171 votes

Alien? Traveled the stars? Where in any part of the lore does it state this? Even in the Pantheon and ASol lore does not mention the idea of them traveling elsewhere. In the universe page of Targon it says nothing about them leaving the mountain. Where did you get this from?

Stars ShaperNov 7, 20171 votes

I will try to expose things clearly:

Targonians are not divinities, they are an advanced civilization that by means of magic and tech (but mostly magic) was able to travel around space.
Aurelion Sol roamed the universe creating and nurishing his stars when he discovered them, their ability with magic made him taking a liking in them and he started vistig them (not sure if he also taught them something, but he surely viewed them in a sort-of paternal way).
Targonians then enslaved Aurelion Sol, tricking him to wear his current crown.

I will add a part of Aurelion Sol Bio:

"As more forms of life emerged to fill the universe, a multitude of primitive eyes gazed up and beheld his work with wonder and breathless pondering. Flattered by this audience of countless worlds, he became fascinated by their fledgling civilizations, who crafted amusingly self-centered philosophies on the nature of his stars. Desiring a deeper connection with one of the few races he deemed worthy, the cosmic dragon selected the most ambitious species to grace with his presence. These chosen few sought to unravel the secrets of the universe and had already expanded beyond their home planet. Many verses were composed about the day the Star Forger descended to a tiny world and announced his presence to the Targonians."

As you see, targonians are just mortals, very powerful indeed but as a single being they are not on a divine status. That's why I made the comparison to Stargate, if you don't know the movie take a look at it.

ForgottenLuckNov 7, 20171 votes

It does not state there that the Targonians traveled the stars only that they observed them greatly, almost like Mayan cultures and such, it could be that they discovered him by looking at the stars and likewise? What makes you believe that they are space travelers?

Stars ShaperNov 7, 20171 votes

"[...]had already expanded beyond their home planet."

Whiteeye AvelynNov 7, 20171 votes

Something i have always wanted to know or just ask someone who knows the lore, Where does the line for godhood be drawn. Are the Targonians are just super advanced people or have the breached what could be called godhood. Great write up so far btw its been great reading up on his stuff.

Stars ShaperNov 7, 20171 votes

In a world where magic exists it's not easy to draw that line and anyway it must always be considered from the point of view you are taking. Ascended are considered demigods from us who know a lot about the universe but were considered Gods from the Shurima people and still are referred as it.

The main traits of godly figures are immortality and omnipotence, I can easily understand that the villages around Mt. Targon would consider the spacefaring Targonians and their Aspects as Gods but they surely aren't.

Aurelion Sol is surely close to that, he creates stars which play a huge part on whatever is present in the universe. But even then, talking about divinity would be wrong. He and Bard are cosmic beings, creatures able to freely move in space, have a lifespan that would seem infinite to common mortals and powers beyond comprehension. But even them are not a great deal compared to Nagakabouros.

But even Nagakabouros is a being not really explainable. Illaoi knows a side of it but it's Aurelion Sol (who knows nagakabouros by Riot words) that tells her: "You don't understand your God, Illaoi". And even him doesn't have a grasp solid enough to talk about this huge life fore-like God.

Whiteeye AvelynNov 7, 20171 votes

I see that makes alot more sense, on a side note since Asol knows kindred are they a good or do you think it was a one off joke.

Stars ShaperNov 7, 20171 votes

Kindred are a representation of death. they are not a real entity.