I want the Summoners back!

Vizibl3·6/8/2015, 2:32:16 AM·23 votes·1,722 views

I really like the lore with the summoners and i think it will be more work than it's worth to rewrite the world. They could keep a lot of the names and the planet itself but they would have to rewrite why everyone is fighting and who they all are and how Rammus and Nidalee and Ahri came to be. They would have to re-voice a lot of the characters and remove a lot of references to the league and summoners alike.

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Impetual6/8/2015, 7:45:03 AM8 votes

100% agree.

The League of Legends was built around summoners.

They are a vital part of the the identity of League of Legends

Moff Muppet6/9/2015, 12:12:27 AM6 votes

Okay, I'm probably going to be downvoted for this, but here goes; I'm fine with the Institute of War and the Summoners no longer being part of the world. In the end, I do understand where they're coming from with the retcon, as it needlessly constricts every single champion to be at this specific place, and for some of them it is nothing more than "because reasons".

What I'm NOT okay with, however, is how it was handled.

They decided to get rid of the Institute and everything because they wanted to focus on the stories, and open up more opportunities to tell them. Well, they apparently suck at their job, because they missed a HUGE oppotunity to tell a story around how the Institute is no more. Rather than retcon it, they should have made a story of its downfall. Maybe public opinion shifted, and the League was no longer seen as useful. Maybe one of the many creatures imprisoned within the League broke free. Maybe some country looked upon all the power the League was amassing, and decided to end it. There are tons of ways they could have done it.

And not only do you NOT need to get rid of all the old lore, AND still make new lore unconnected to the League, you could even explore what happens to certain people when the League is no more. What happens to Twisted Fate when there is no League to protect him from the wrath of Graves? What about Orianna, who's "programmed" to be a champion? How will she cope? And what about Shaco, who was kept at the League in a vain attempt to track his whereabouts? All of this and more could be used or ignored as they saw fit.

What pisses me off most about all this is that not only does it seem hypocritical to claim you want to tell a story when you can't even be arsed to tell a story about how stuff changed in your world, but it is also incredibly LAZY. And it's not like this was an idea that was hard to think of. Several other forumposters have made the exact same points as me, that they should have at least given us an in-lore reason for why the League is no more, so it's unlikely the writing team forgot about this opportunity. They just didn't care.

Writing a story takes time and effort, yes. But that is what they do. Or rather, did. They created a world full of characters, of lands and factions, of creatures and monsters, and they based it all around the central concept of the League of Legends. Removing something like that in a way that makes sense, and which removes the League from any future lore takes effort and thought, but I'm sure they could have pulled it of.

But they didn't. Instead they took the easy way out. The LAZY way out.

It takes effort to actually come up with a reason for why the League doesn't exist anymore, and what events led up to that.

It takes no effort to just toss it away like a used tissue.

I don't care anymore about the lore Riot puts out. Because they obviously didn't care about the League of Legends and the Institute of War.

Rabid Husky6/8/2015, 9:04:25 AM6 votes

tbh it was stupid of them to retcon the lore without anything to fill it and dont even get me started on these 3rd grade reports where you gotta learn to write a paragraph they have started to replace current lore with i would love if riot made books made something easy to find just something to explain whats going on and side note id love if they updated the web page to show full relationships instead of friends and rivals like Ashe married to Tryndamere allys with Anivia Gragas Nunu Quinn rival Sejuani enemy Lissandra maybe not exact or perfect but it serves a point

Impetual6/8/2015, 9:39:03 AM6 votes

I really miss summoner's existing as part of League of Legends lore.

Hearing about how champion's interacted with other summoners was awesome.

Heck, being a summoner was awesome. Now we're just players.

Currently summoner just means player of LoL according to Riot. It's a sad and meaningless term that used to mean so much more, both in game, and out.

The retcon sucks.

redniwediS6/8/2015, 5:14:09 AM6 votes

Many of us want the old lore to stay, however Riot had already made up their minds before even mentioning it to us. It was too late to change their minds when it was announced, and it's still too late now.

Wickedfates6/9/2015, 6:41:42 PM5 votes

but only you can hear me summoner

Sona

Shénzhì6/8/2015, 8:47:28 PM4 votes

With impending lore revisions there are some maybe very difficult to amend. Those few that may be difficult (Shaco, Nocturne, Fiddlesticks, Skarner, Zac and maybe Rammus) could all be wrapped up in the same 'brand of champions' as Fiddlestick's lore.

RE-INTRO OF SUMMONERS With a reintroduction of Summoners without the weird mind-boggling mind-connection stuff could also reintroduce some lore. The Summoner lore totally cheesed me the fk out in DC Comic's MOBA Infinite Crisis which was pretty much the same as League of Legend's. It does not work at all. So .. Summoners could simply be a membership club of ordinary Runeterran folk that instigate the most popular world-wide sport; the League of Legends. The same people that reflect us the players of this game which creates a fan base within the fiction. We can expect cheering during team versus team games, right? Makes sense. How it's processed could be like an honorary voting system to whichever eligible champion is obligated to accept the summoning. They can choose not to but for game's sake they do. None of that mind-connection cheese crap.

This may mean re-imagining what Summoner Spells actually are, though. What if Summoner Spell simply become like The Hunger Games sponsors? Easy, comprehensible and recognizable. Rito pls do this.

RE-INTRO OF SOME CHAMPIONS Fiddlestick's lore states: "Decades ago, there existed a powerful rune mage from Zaun - Istvaan. At the end of the fifth Rune War, he became one of the League's first summoners" -- "Sealing himself inside the easternmost summoning chamber, he began incanting the most forbidden of rituals - an extra-planar summoning".

Istvaan created Fiddlesticks specifically for the League of Legends! This is good and can be imitated through these other rather cryptic and mysterious champions, too!

  • Fiddlesticks - Zaun's Summoner's extra-planar construct created for the League of Legends.
  • Nocturne - Shadow Isle's reanimation created for The Harrowing and the League of Legends.
  • Blitzcrank - Piltover Summoner's artificial construct created for the League of Legends.
  • Zac - Zaun Summoner's artificial construct created for battle and employed by Summoners for LoL.
  • Skarner - Shurima Summoner's elemental construct created for the League of Legends.
  • Sion - Noxus's reanimation created for war and the League of Legends.
  • Galio - Demacia's elemental construct by Durand, original lore kept, employed by Summoners for LoL.
  • Anivia - Freljord's elemental construct created to protect and employed by Summoners for LoL.
  • Shaco - An unknown Summoner's extra-planar construct created for the League of Legends. It's all one big joke to some.

That easily clears up some things, doesn't it?! :)

Noctius286/9/2015, 11:09:13 AM3 votes

I wonder what the new background is gonna be for champs like lee sin (failed summoner) and Oriana (robot clone of a girl who died training for the league)

And items like boots of ionia (created in celebration of Ionias victory over Noxus in the League)

GreenLore6/8/2015, 8:43:40 AM1 votes

Uhm wait,why would they need to rewrite how Ahri,Rammus and Nidalee came to be? Their origins are in pretty much no way connected to the summoners themselves,so they'd be perfectly fine if they just removed the "and for this reason they joined the League of Legends" from their lores(ok rammus is currently stuck with his short lore,but this would apply to his full lore)

TheGrandAlliance6/9/2015, 7:14:10 PM1 votes

The simple solution to this problem is to Deny RIOT's "new lore" and magically enough Summoner's are right back again ... it isn't like this game is a MMORPG or anything.