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About Swain, Rakan and the Vastayan

CarmeloXC·2/10/2018, 3:53:49 PM·3 votes·936 views

I was looking for update about the connection between general Swain and the Vastayan. As we all know, or suppose, there's a line of Rakan dialogues that says to Swain "you've granted with vastayan blood and yet refuse to" yadayada, I don't really remember the line in english 'cause I have the game in italian... However, that line was enough to let the people suppose something about Swain far discendence from vastayan.

Now, in the new rework, Swain can respond to Rakan saying the only vastayan blood he has is on his hand (obviously, I suppose, this means he killed some vastayan and that's all). I also red some supposition about Beatrice, the crow. She could be a dark vastayan spirit or creature that choose to bound with Swain. But (because there are always some but): how about with this rework? I don't see Beatrice anymore, the central point of Swain now is the arm, that seems it was cut off by Irelia? How about the crippling part (he's no longer?)

So yes, there are crow that follow him and appears in the map, there's an interaction where he feed them so there are connection with the past Swain but... Well, let's start from the first question: Rakan statement about his blood and Swain denial. Your explanation or supposition?

8 Comments

Robertsmash2/10/2018, 5:27:56 PM5 votes

In-universe answer? I think Rakan just drew the wrong conclusion. It hasn't been established that he has any way of knowing anything about Swain beyond reputation and maybe a visual. Seeing Swain's magic and transformation on Summoner's Rift (which are not canon battles) just shows what he might think if he saw Swain in action. Even so, this is kind of shaky because Rakan delivers the line in absolute, doubtless terms, as though it's a basic premise: "You were given vastayan blood, yet chose to be blind".

Meta answer? Well I believe Riot had Rakan do a line to Swain before they knew Swain's future lore direction themselves, and now they contradict. Imo this is the major reason for the line's confusion.

GreenLore2/10/2018, 4:46:04 PM2 votes

Rakan simply mistakes Swain for a shapeshifter(someone who is part vastaya and part human,like Nidalee),as he just assumes that Swains ability to grow wings is related to that.

Placentas2/10/2018, 3:57:43 PM1 votes

Could it be possible Beatrice/demon was an original Vastayahshsahashhtaha (the original spirit form of Vastayahs before they interbred with humans and other species)?

Perhaps as you said she was a corrupt or evil one and maybe she became a demon. We know from Evelynn that Demons can be born from what was essentially just "shadow". That's what Evelynn was before she consumed a massive amount of human emotions and turned her into an actual Demon.

So perhaps somethign similar happened to an original VAstyahashtahahtasgf since they are very akin to Spirits/spirit realm.

Elipo2/14/2018, 1:21:52 AM1 votes

Now there is a voice line from Swain to Rakan that says he doesn't have Vastayan blood, but he has spilt it