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Kayn Lore/Story makes me wonder will we ever get a timeline?

sumerska·7/4/2017, 3:41:36 PM·7 votes·1,609 views

I love reading all of the extended stories and lore for new champions and I really enjoyed Kayn's. I've always been curious as to when all of the events in Zed's order of the shadow take place (along with his time with the Kinkou and the Noxian invasions and what not). What caught my eye was that Kayn was no older than ten when Zed first found him in a Noxian raid. How old would this make Zed? Was this before or after he was mentioned in jhin's lore and his confrontation with Shen? I hope they give us some more details about the chronology of which things occured, though maybe it's intentional for the sake of speculation. Also any thoughts on Akali's relation to the Order? I know there was some speculation a while ago, leading me to believe that if this was true, Kayn would've been aware of her at some point (though he has no interactions with her). It seems to me that they'd be around the same age since they are both quite young in comparison to their teachers (Kayn being shown to be quite younger than Zed, and Akali also being referred to as young by Shen, in Jhin's lore).

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Monotachi7/4/2017, 11:12:55 PM3 votes

I find it odd that Akali has no mention in Ionia-related lore releases like these.

In the original AMA for Zed's release, it mentioned Zed had a former favourite student that left his order. It is heavily hinted that it is Akali, due to her out-of-place title in the Kinkou Order - the Fist of Shadows -> a title that sounds much more fitting for the Order of the Shadow. She also has abilities that could of came from Zed's teachings - Twin Disciplines, Shadow Dance.

Before Akali's passive got her rune requirements removed, if Akali is near Zed when he uses his dance, the shadow that spawns from the dance will trigger red/green lights on it's wrists just like Akali's passive lights - along with the activation sounds. Also clicking on the shadow one time on the PBE when the HUD got updated, the shadow will show Akali as it's portrait. Another hint is that death recap when slained by Zed used to have Akali in there as well, doing 1 damage.

With her being placed on the VGU list, hopely they get to flesh out the lore-relation connections much more. Especially amping-up the visual and gameplay thematic of Shadow Dance. This should be a skill that something Zed could make use of. Currently in-game, the visuals are awful, and gameplay-wise, it is just 3 simple dashes.

For lore-related speculations, I am thinking if Kayn and Akali are of similar age, then both of them could of possibly been Zed's right-man/woman - forming the trio for the Order of the Shadows. Kayn's passive themes and effects are very similar to Akali's Twin Disciplines, the idea of 'two opposite halves' having two different effects. Both have one side that does bonus magic damage and the other side that gives sustain - spellvamp. It would make sense that their passives would be similar since they were students of Zed.

Warlord Scrap7/4/2017, 4:14:43 PM2 votes

originally the answer was no for a timeline/map because it constrained worldbuilding. Now with the most recent ask riot they reversed there decision on the map so its reasonable to believe they may reverse their decision on a time line as well

Blades in Exile7/4/2017, 7:44:08 PM2 votes

Zed was never part of the Kinkou just so you know.

2 NEEKOS 1 NII7/7/2017, 4:55:33 AM1 votes

Never