@Riot, about the yorick skin, please just listen to us

a white parasite··114 votes·5,285 views
Soaring Sword Fiora color scheme

First off, I have never posted on the boards before. However, this issue is really important to me.

After seeing the new Yorick skin release I was super excited. I main Yorick on another account and I was really pumped to pick up the new skin. But after seeing the lack of response on Riot's end about fixing the issues that were pointed out by other Yorick mains, I really don't feel like buying the skin anymore.

I've been keeping up with the skin's updates on the PBE and they have been few, besides some audio tweaks. Many suggestions were made on the Arclight Yorick PBE thread but most of them were dismissed. The thread was just closed today and Riot KateyKhaos said that "the content is locked down, so what you're seeing on PBE is what you'll also be seeing when this skin goes live." In other words, no changes to the new skin could be made. https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-pbe-feedback/REPY7nR9-closed-pbe-bugs-feedback-thread-arclight-yorick

Ok so that means that none of the visual feedback will be taken into consideration. Nothing can/will be changed, nothing about the differences between the splash art coloration and in-game model coloration, nothing about the differences between the splash helm and in-game helm, absolutely nothing. Of course this should mean that the other skins on the PBE are locked down too, right?

WRONG

A new thread was opened up today about the obvious differences between the soaring sword fiora skin color scheme and the in-game color scheme. While there's nothing wrong with the thread itself, there is something wrong with Rioters commenting that they are "going to look into addressing this so things are a little more cohesive." for a Fiora skin but they won't even take a glimpse at the differences between the yorick splash and in-game model. I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining.~~ I just think it's a little unfair to do this to us.~~

Why? Why do you value the opinions of Fiora players more than the opinions of Yorick players? I know that some have been harsh but others like myself really like the skin but see some things that could be fixed to make the skin even better. Shouldn't the goal of putting a skin on the PBE be to take the feedback and make the skin it's absolute best self?

At least that the way it should be. SO many people would buy the skin if it matched up better with the splash. Just look at all of the comments on the Arclight skin threads and the yorickmains subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/yorickmains/comments/714wy2/arclight_splash/ https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/now14lFw-arclight-yorick-splash-art

Please, Riot, just listen to us. Most of us mean well. We just want to see the skin be its absolute best and we won't settle for anything less. Especially when our feedback is, for the most part, ignored.

EDIT: This topic can be heated for some but let's keep the discussion kind! The skins team has received a lot of negativity this PBE cycle which I'm sure has influenced their decision to leave the arclight yorick model alone.

EDIT 2: So riot went through with the fiora model tweaks and still haven't even posted on this thread yet. There's no way they haven't noticed. At this point I really think that they don't care about it anymore. Please guys keep this thread alive. We have to MAKE them take notice of us.

EDIT 3: I just saw the skin spotlight for what Arclight Yorick will look like live. After seeing the video, I noticed some alterations between the pre-release and the release skin and I have to say that riot did make some decent changes. The in-game model looks way more like the splash art now, even though them helm is not fixed. Thanks for that Riot. I'm sorry if we yorick mains have been harsh. I now see that we may have gotten out of hand.

52 Comments

BundleOfLawls32 votes

Fixing the helmet at least and turning that disgusting yellow into something more palatable would be great.

Facelift23 votes

EQUALITY! If Fiora deserves a skin tweak, so does Yorick.

Penyu20 votes

If I hadn't seen they'd lock the thread with their dismissive 'not changing anything, tough shit' attitude I wouldn't be so bloody dissapointed

what is the point in a feedback thread if they don't take any of it on board and just parrot the same 'wehh sorry you don't like it ;-; :(((( ;_______;' bs

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

I'm gonna bet that it's because people were bitching about irrelevant stuff, or that it "wasn't high-quality enough" or some shit. I saw plenty of that as soon as they announced the skin.

Penyu2 votes

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I'm gonna bet that it's because people were bitching about irrelevant stuff, or that it "wasn't high-quality enough" or some shit. I saw plenty of that as soon as they announced the skin.

I didnt see anyone saying anything off topic??

Wrathof30012 votes

Just because the changes weren't updated, doesn't mean they weren't attempted. If they decided the changes (particularly the coloration ones) weren't approved internally obviously they wouldn't put it on the pbe, of course this is giving them the benefit of the doubt, but looking at the boards it looks like the requests were heard.

a white parasite5 votes

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Just because the changes weren't updated, doesn't mean they weren't attempted. If they decided the changes (particularly the coloration ones) weren't approved internally obviously they wouldn't put it on the pbe, of course this is giving them the benefit of the doubt, but looking at the boards it looks like the requests were heard.

Yeah I see what you mean. I gave them the benefit of the date since the skin was released. I only decided to post after I saw they weren't going to change anything on the model. Hopefully they can reconsider that. Especially since a couple tweaks would mean a lot to so many people.

Wrathof3002 votes

Then I do hope you get some feedback from a Rioter with regard to their decisions on pushing the skin as is, or that they do consider the application of further changes.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

rtbf22561824111 votes

After 6 years they won't even bother to make the skin without problems? Okay then. It's like they chose their company name to mock us.

weevil9 votes

The fact that the very moment someone points out the discrepancies between the new Fiora skin and Riot addresses it immediately with the fact that they'll fix it is the most frustrating thing I've seen all week after Riot has been going on and on about how it's impossible to change Yorick's skin at all.

This feels like such a clear case of favoritism, even if it really isn't. I wish they actually listened to any of our feedback or input, but I guess everyone was right about Yorick just being a tally on a checklist that they just wanted to get out of the way.

a white parasite7 votes

Hey guys, I just wanted to say that it makes me really happy to see all of the comments and upvotes showing support for this issue. When I posted this thread I didn't think anyone would notice or respond.

Thank you for joining with me in raising our voices together for the changes we want to see! Keep up the good, holy work guys! Yorick I bet a Rioter will take notice of this thread soon.

Facelift4 votes

MONKS, TOGETHER, STRONG! Ma boys from the sub got your back bro. Thanks for posting in order to raise awareness, the least we can do is click the up-vote button.

Unstoppable Monk6 votes

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ClutchisClutch1 votes

Riven mains are as bad as Fiora mains lul

Imperial Japan5 votes

So kind of like Omega Squad Twitch

MDayR5 votes

Pretty please !

Penyu5 votes

there we go, they put the Fiora skin changes on the PBE and still ignoring us

feels good

a white parasite2 votes

I just saw that and am speechless. I can't believe it at all.

THE RlVER KlNG4 votes

The reason is simple: Fiora will make money at worlds; Yorick won't

Welcome to the League skins system

Penyu4 votes

[{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IuMz53Um,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-21T16:24:44.673+0000)

The reason is simple: Fiora will make money at worlds; Yorick won't

Welcome to the League skins system

worlds?? what does the fiora skin have to do with worlds?

THE RlVER KlNG5 votes

They literally reverted her nerfs and gave her a skin right before worlds; Fiora since her rework is a historically contested pick in pro play, especially in Korea

There is no better way to profit

Penyu2 votes

[{quoted}](name=THE RlVER KlNG,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IuMz53Um,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2017-09-21T19:25:10.611+0000)

They literally reverted her nerfs and gave her a skin right before worlds; Fiora since her rework is a historically contested pick in pro play, especially in Korea

There is no better way to profit

If you say so

ClutchisClutch1 votes

?? you know you don't have to pay for skins when you play in worlds? plus none would buy a fiora skin just cause they saw it in worlds

yay nibbers3 votes

I think there may be a bit of an understanding. When they say "the content is locked down, so what you're seeing on PBE is what you'll also be seeing when this skin goes live." they mean exactly that. This is just how the PBE works. Anything they're looking to ship live gets locked in about a week before patch day latest. I can pretty much guarantee you that Fiora's skin won't see any changes by the time it hits live either, unless they're holding off on the Sword skins' release for the patch after next.

As for what the Rioter said in the Fiora thread after lockdown time, I hate to be a cynic but that could've just been said to calm people down. It'd be nice to see changes to improve the skin (and Yorick's too ofc) after release but the only time I can think of that happening is PF Ezreal and champion VGUs...

a white parasite2 votes

I think you have a point which kinda makes me worried. I don't really understand why they made the claim at all. It's either an empty statement, or it's a statement that validates one group of players feedback while ignoring another's.

Hopefully this time will be different; it would be a shame for the players giving feedback about all of the skins to have such feedback dismissed. The worst part is that the content was locked right after the splash arts were released, when it's pretty evident that the splash arts for some of the skins on the PBE don't quite match up.

All things aside, I just really want a rioter to respond to this thread and be honest and real with us. This cycle has been a roller-coaster and it would be great to know what's really been going on.

a white parasite3 votes

They ended up updating the fiora skin today on the PBE. Now I'm just really sad and confused... [sg-janna]

a white parasite3 votes

I'm really feeling disappointed at this point. How can Riot do this to us? There aren't any words to describe this other than pure favoritism and hypocrisy. I really had hopes that they would fix this but it seems like they don't even care. This truly is a dark, dark day for yorick players. Skins aside, this shows that they don't even care to listen to us Yorick players anymore...

Moonboy652 votes

at least they fixed Fiora

dunno why they didn't fix Yorick's helmet tho

a white parasite2 votes

For real. What is going on with them I'm happy they fixed the fiora skin's problem after saying they would, but it doesn't help with the fact that they've been silent about the helmet and stuff

LostFr0st2 votes

The epaulettes aren't even the same colour, let alone the same shape. The silver bit around the blue orb shouldn't be silver at least.

Penyu2 votes

I'm losing hope that riot with acknowledge this, I've given the rioter who was responding on the PBE a poke on twitter to hopefully draw some attention. I do think we can't give up though, even if it goes to live server as it is, we can still keep making noise and pushing for changes so that we can be happy with a skin we've waiting SO long for

I know it's more work for them, but if they don't want to change the base skin I think chromas would really help those of us who are disappointed

also if you can't see a difference between the skin and splash, or don't give a crap about Yorick / Yorick players then please just move along.

Lintu Puck1 votes
  1. I see no real problems with Arclight Yorick personally.
  2. Fiora is and always has been a more like/played champ for years, so of COURSE Riot is going to pay more attention to her stuff.
  3. "Favoritism" should not be this surprising anymore. >.> Riot has more then 160 or so champs at the moment, so there are obviously gonna be favorites and things that get more attention.
  4. You want your favorite champs to get more attention? I say you'd have an easier time convincing proplayers to said champs before you'd be able t convince Riot to change how they run their business.

just sayin.

Danjeng3 votes

Some counters to consider.

  1. That's subjective, and the opinion of Yorick mains should matter on Yorick skins. You don't play Yorick.
  2. Maybe Fiora is liked/played more because Riot pays more attention to her stuff and Yorick was literally removed from champion rotation (though he was pretty toxic to play against).
  3. There are less than 138 champions atm, don't throw out random numbers.
  4. Riot cares about the community and it's better trying to bring to light some issues, rather than keeping quiet altogether, just because you believe Riot won't listen.

I also think that the skin looks pretty fine, but I think it's best for the Yorick players to determine that, rather than some normies such as you and I.

Facelift3 votes

If you're saying Fiora's skin has problems, but Yorick's doesn't, you're probably delusional. They have the same minor issues that we hope are fixed... And no, favoritism shouldn't be a thing, all champions deserve their time in the spotlight, and should be treated equally. Are all champions favored on the same level all the time? No. But there are 5 minutes in which all "less popular" champions get to shine, and this is one of those moments.

Lintu Puck1 votes

let's go through some "complaints" then for Yorick.

Muted Colors vs Bright Colors - we have 2 very different visual perspectives of Yorick to work with. In the splash he is in a dark room, with the only lights coming from the Arclight above him and at a few points on his body, while the in-game model is out in the open and thus the world's light cancels out the cool lighting his Arclight gives.

Missing armor pieces - every bit of gear that we see on Yorick in the splash is on him in game, save for the loincloth, which is slightly tattered in the splash but whole in game. Some pieces, like his kneebraces, are just harder to see because of the view we have of him. Speaking of view...

Details Details - Our in game view of him is up and further away then the close and low angle shot we have of him in the splash. Not to mention trying to emulate all the fancy design detail from the armor in the splash onto the small model in game is both tough to do and in the long run kid of pointless.

CorruptContagion4 votes

The complaints are just as legitimate for fiora as they are for yorick. The fiora mains say the fabric isn't silky like in the splash and the in-game model's hue is different from the splash.

Your argument about the skin's brightness falls flat when you take a look at the other Arclight skins. The Varus and Vayne Arclight skins aren't nearly as bright as Yorick's when the whole "out-in-the-open" principle should still apply to all the skins instead of just one.

Secondly, it's not about missing armor pieces; it's about incorrect armor pieces. The helm for the in-game model barely resembles the helm of the splash. Both still have a helm, but most people prefer the splash's helm which means that it should've been used in-game.

The in-game view may be at an awkward perspective which I would argue makes it even more important to fix the helm and brightness. From such a far angle, the armor's looks strange together because of the colors and his face doesn't look quite like a holy king. The skin is a good quality skin. I just think that if it needs to be fixed somehow then it should be fixed. However, it does seem like nothing is gonna change at this point.

Lintu Puck1 votes

how are the helms different? I see no difference beyond the fancy detail lines

can you give me proof they are 2 different helms?

CorruptContagion4 votes

Sure thing dude. The proof is in meme format but the direct comparison is still there. https://www.reddit.com/r/yorickmains/comments/717jha/im_not_worried/

Lintu Puck1 votes

that.......is very poor "proof". -.- if you want to convince someone with "proof" then try something more credible than the quality of Bigfoot and Lock Ness Monster quality images.

CorruptContagion2 votes

It's a low quality photo, but it still shows the difference. I have a feeling you don't really want to have a good quality discussion, so before this escalates too much, imma go. Peace out dude :) [slayer-jinx-catface]

ClutchisClutch4 votes

If you don't see anything wrong with arclight Yorick then you probally haven't seen the skin then

Randomonium1 votes

Yeah I'd probably still but the skin if it actually matched the splash art even though I'm still pissed off about the lack of complementing voice lines for the skin. The splash art is just too good.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Yorick might be further into development than Fiora.

Ðelofasht1 votes

This has been the story of Yorick in the game of League of Legends since the beginning. Yorick is not a champion they want in the game, input from the mains who play this champion have always been massively ignored, while people who play him only occasionally get what they want with the champ. The balance and development team has no interest in him, and now the skin team pretty much is showing us the same thing.

Resources are evidently better spent on other champions, and the crowd who plays Yorick are not important enough to them. So with everything they have shown me over the years, the solution seems pretty obvious, quit playing League and start playing and spending money on other games. It has been fun, but no longer trying to be ignored. I am just another random nobody to them anyhow, good luck to them in their endeavors, hopefully it brings them years of success.

jama655

yorick mains where?

Toa Innodence5 votes

Yorick mains Here. I may not have been waiting as long as some other yorick mains, but I think we're all just beyond jokes at this point.

ShovelShepherd2 votes

Here!

Facelift4 votes

Rise up brothers! Judgement day is upon us! We will triumph and once more bathe in light's holy grace!!!

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