Jarvan/Le Blanc theory: More Evidence?

TheFujiApple·9/24/2014, 6:48:29 PM·9 votes·2,669 views

From RISE... SWAIN The blood of the Demacian prince. How much remains? LEBLANC **After the last charade? **Enough that you should be very mindful of how you use it. Whatever you intend had best be brief

Any thoughts?

17 Comments

lonetrey9/24/2014, 8:13:45 PM9 votes

I like this.

After all that retconning, you have no idea how relieving it is to hear of something that references the established lore, rather than rewriting it.

SecretLore9/24/2014, 7:35:50 PM6 votes

I think this shows that leblanc was indeed posing as j4 and then they altered his mind or something?Either way,they used his blood to pull of the kalamanda-thing,which is probably why j4 is now back to normal(because they don't have enough blood to do this forever)

Aina9/24/2014, 6:57:35 PM4 votes

They are going to resurrect the being Sion with the blood of the Demacian prince? Or infuse, I know not of their practices.

Zimb mage9/24/2014, 8:22:35 PM3 votes

If the Kalamanda event is cannon, who broke up the fight? With no IOW to time stop the fighting and enforce the peace. Did another war break out, and is in fact currently happening?

Solidair39/24/2014, 7:03:50 PM2 votes

Does seem to be more evidence that LeBlanc had impersonated Jarvan at that battle.

prime1049/24/2014, 7:32:57 PM1 votes

Yes, I do think this is a reference to how Leblanc was probably impersonating J4. But this brings a second question. Could the "last charade" she was talking about possibly refer to Kalamanda????

Lumus Avatar9/24/2014, 6:57:50 PM1 votes

3rd installment still says locked for me, even if I click the latest news article

Rozzeta9/25/2014, 12:24:10 AM1 votes

Apparently the battle of Kalamanda is still canon. Don't know how withouth the League, though.

Think that the prior Jarvans would be referred to as kings, not princes.

xBrave11/15/2014, 7:47:28 PM1 votes

either jarvan is still imprisoned within noxus, or when they DID have him they kept some of his blood. when they speak about not having alot of it left, might just literally be that - they are down to the bottom of the glass.

my hopes

  • for lore purposes, j4 was imprisoned when he went on his quest
  • tortured by urgot cause thats what he does
  • j4 is a man and will not give in or die
  • garen comes and saves him
  • cuts that mutha fuckin' urgot in HALF making him the freak show he is
  • j4 now free and pissed as all hell goes on a rampage with garen trying to find swain
  • turns out swain isnt there so they go home
  • garen and j4 are still best buds but j4 is notably a different man due to PTSD of being a POW
  • j4 cannot control himself whenever swain is involved due to pure revenge
  • garen and j4 will one day kill everyone (cause thats what bro's due when someone fucks with a bro like that.)
  • j4 is the man.
Argomecha Perdix9/24/2014, 7:26:37 PM1 votes

No, this is the blood from J4's ancestor. RISE takes place before Swain takes command of Noxus, just right after he takes his position as a Grand General. '[...] my need for subtlety is nearing its end. I must secure my position with bloodshed, and that requires a blunt instrument.'

YouLostMe9/24/2014, 7:19:13 PM1 votes

I don't think so. The blood of the demacian prince is likely J4's predecessor, and it seems Swain is feeding Sion the blood in order to direct Sion towards killing J4. If LB were really J4 in disguise, I don't think she would be OK with that.

Dan Squared9/25/2014, 6:28:09 AM

what im currently wondering is if the Rune Wars themselves are still canon...the reason the IOW came into existence was because the Rune Wars were so destructive so dangerous to the integrity of the world that summoners from all city states banded together to stop it. Since the IOW no longer exists...that means there was nothing to stop the rune wars....which would only matter if the Rune Wars themselves were still canon.

Cant really back this up with anything, but the way I see the current climate in Valoran is basically a cold war....no major engagements are occurring currently, mostly minor clashes and trade disputes (Kalamanda could im thinking would be retconed into something like this, which Swain used to set up his plan).