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With the New Lore...

GoldenSuns··8 votes·1,960 views

I look forward to champs dying brutally.

Whole factions being wiped off the face of Runeterra...

The complete removal of happy goofy characters, cause in the dark world that is coming they can't be reasoned to last without a dark side.

Ether Garen or Kat has to die... No way they could ever be allowed to be together considering the faction they belong to. Considering how Riot like to beat up on Kat, I think it will be her.

I'm sure fizz's people will be relieved to eat Nami's people in masses, or vice versa.

I'm thinking Leona will have to kill Diana as well. With Panth backing her up it would even be that hard.

Brand... well I'm sure he will be doing is elemental Force of Nature thing and burning what ever he wants to the ground, jumping from body to body as he does.

Lissandra is smarter than Ashe and Sej... she will play them both for fools and after they wreck each other she will come in and crush who ever is left.

And when thing just seem like they are starting to settle into ether fire or ice... I'm sure the Void will bring the darkness to the party and who ever is still stand can be eat alive as the scream.

Going to be fun right?

And the second the writers fuck something up... and they fuck something up since that is all they have done so far by their own account... retcons for anything that didn't quite fit.

26 Comments

Centuros6 votes

Unfortunately, characters will not be allowed to die, because then they could never tell any more stories about them (barring backstory deaths like all undead characters have).

Maganar4 votes

I believe I saw somewhere that one of the express purposes for this major retcon was specifically to make it possible for them to kill off characters.

That said, with the sheer amount of lameness that was the Shurima event (considering it gave us less lore than the involved characters previously had), I don't think they'll actually get around to mentioning the deaths of characters they were hoping to kill.

So, no, I don't believe they have reservations about killing champions in lore.

Criomhthann5 votes

LOL

"We are going to apply an ASoIaF style to a MOBA; that couldn't go horribly wrong."

Sneak Dog1 votes

I think they won't kill any champion ever. I think people would get upset if an interesting and playable character would suddenly get no new lore ever. Only way to pull this off is to tell stories in a non-chronological order.

Ark Angel HFB4 votes

I think they won't kill any champion ever. I think people would get upset if an interesting and playable character would suddenly get no new lore ever. Only way to pull this off is to tell stories in a non-chronological order.

Or you know have a set up where death might not be that forever... like an organization that maybe protected people... maybe have powerful people join to help hmmm.... what would a place like that be called...

Legacy of Xion3 votes

I think they won't kill any champion ever. I think people would get upset if an interesting and playable character would suddenly get no new lore ever. Only way to pull this off is to tell stories in a non-chronological order.

What's to stop Talon from appearing and stabbing Garen in the throat.

What's stopping Lux from sneaking into Noxus (AGAIN) and FIRINA MAH LAZOR BIIITCH to Swain's face and melting it off?

Please. Because honestly, without something truly keeping this from happening, everyone would be dying right now.

Not trying to be a jerk to you dude. Just...being realistic.

Sneak Dog5 votes

Self-defence and plot armor. Those champions are all combat-capable persons, not easily ambushed nor killed. Also, I wasn't referring to the champions not killing champions. I was referring to Riot not killing champions.

Legacy of Xion6 votes

Self-defence and plot armor. Those champions are all combat-capable persons, not easily ambushed nor killed. Also, I wasn't referring to the champions not killing champions. I was referring to Riot not killing champions.

My point is, nothing IN LORE now keeps others from trying (and possibly) succeeding in killing each other. Riot wouldn't kill champions because people would be ups - no, people are upset already, they won't care.

My point, Sneak Dog, is this - IN LORE, nothing now holds Noxus back from sending assassins after Garen and Lux and J4. IN LORE nothing stops Sejuani from launching a surprise attack on the Avarosan and trying to slaughter them. Nothing stops Cho'Gath from just upright eating EVERYTHING with Kog'Maw.

Riot won't kill them, yeah.

But honestly there's no reason now why there isn't a massacre of champions.

Sneak Dog3 votes

Well, they're champions who know how to handle themselves, that's about it. LoL is hardly the only setting in which characters have plot armor. It kind of is a thing with continuous stories. Might I ask why you are so set on this? Does the IoW have something to do with this?

Keep in mind that the lore isn't exactly realistic, it's just realistic enough.

Ark Angel HFB1 votes

Well, they're champions who know how to handle themselves, that's about it. LoL is hardly the only setting in which characters have plot armor. It kind of is a thing with continuous stories. Might I ask why you are so set on this? Does the IoW have something to do with this?

Keep in mind that the lore isn't exactly realistic, it's just realistic enough.

And yet if Trist was to every run into Kogmaw... she wouldn't stand a chance.

Legacy of Xion3 votes

Well, they're champions who know how to handle themselves, that's about it. LoL is hardly the only setting in which characters have plot armor. It kind of is a thing with continuous stories. Might I ask why you are so set on this? Does the IoW have something to do with this?

Keep in mind that the lore isn't exactly realistic, it's just realistic enough.

Why am I set on this?

Because Plot Armor is a copout.

Diahane2 votes

I think they won't kill any champion ever. I think people would get upset if an interesting and playable character would suddenly get no new lore ever. Only way to pull this off is to tell stories in a non-chronological order.

What's to stop Talon from appearing and stabbing Garen in the throat.

What's stopping Lux from sneaking into Noxus (AGAIN) and FIRINA MAH LAZOR BIIITCH to Swain's face and melting it off?

Please. Because honestly, without something truly keeping this from happening, everyone would be dying right now.

Not trying to be a jerk to you dude. Just...being realistic.

What's stopping Talon from killing Garen? Look at his build! All armor stacking there! xD And Swain's too is too tanky for Lux to assassinate him late game. That must be it.

(Just trying to do a bit of humour. A bittersweet one if we consider the lore and the game have been separated.)

Legacy of Xion3 votes

I think they won't kill any champion ever. I think people would get upset if an interesting and playable character would suddenly get no new lore ever. Only way to pull this off is to tell stories in a non-chronological order.

What's to stop Talon from appearing and stabbing Garen in the throat.

What's stopping Lux from sneaking into Noxus (AGAIN) and FIRINA MAH LAZOR BIIITCH to Swain's face and melting it off?

Please. Because honestly, without something truly keeping this from happening, everyone would be dying right now.

Not trying to be a jerk to you dude. Just...being realistic.

What's stopping Talon from killing Garen? Look at his build! All armor stacking there! xD And Swain's too is too tanky for Lux to assassinate him late game. That must be it.

(Just trying to do a bit of humour. A bittersweet one if we consider the lore and the game have been separated.)

I get it and I chuckled at that one xD

Dreamspitter3 votes

Unfortunately, characters will not be allowed to die, because then they could never tell any more stories about them (barring backstory deaths like all undead characters have).

This.

Maganar6 votes

That sounds like a pretty quick summary of the situation, especially the Freljord part - without Ashe being able to work with the Institute to actually get something started in the Freljord by showing her people what cooperation with the outsiders has let her accomplish, Lissandra has every tool she needs to completely manipulate the Avarosans and Winter's Claw into nothing more than puppets.

That said, I don't think they really care that this removes all the fun from the game knowing these are the brutal end fates of our favorite characters - characters we took to and came to love partially because of the stability it gave us in our lives to know they would always be there to be summoned by us and to enact our wills - a stability a lot of people don't feel they have in real life. If they'd considered that, they wouldn't have moved forward with this. To add to this point, though, I don't really expect them to make it very far with this plan before some other major retcon or "start from scratch" or something, because their delivery at the beginning of this new start has been so utterly lame and they'll have to realize at some point that glitzy animations did not make Shurima interesting, nor did Ascension appeal to anyone except the people who have begging for URF since it left, a fickle population that is always fascinated by any high-speed, strategy-lacking bloodbath regardless of whether or not it has any "lore connection."

Durmeth the Vile5 votes

With now Iow or league, there is nothing stopping them from killing champions. They want the game to be separate from the story for some reason. So why not, kill some off. In either case, who cares, because if its not relevant to the game anymore, I'm not particularly invested.

Riot's new decision to immerse the player less is frankly boggling. I play Warhammer 40k, and even there, the novels outside the game ADD to the player immersion when using various armies and such, not detract from it. The codices give me back story and reason to choose various armies or units and characters because they mean something. Riot is doing everything backwards these days.

LordHippoman4 votes

Are...uh...are you okay?

Ark Angel HFB3 votes

I think you left out Graves putting two barrels of buckshot through TF's face, but maybe TF will get the drop on graves.

Diahane3 votes

If we require a realistic grim world for the new lore, then... Yordles should be extinct. Not about to be erased, but already erased from a long time. They are just, like, not even a leg of a human. I bet Zaun would have bombarded them to chemical death just to spite them, Teemo specifically.

(I'm obviously joking a bit by taking it to this extreme!)

Tyrannus03 votes

They never will. Want proof? If Sivir had died during Azir's ascension, it'd have put way more weight(theoretically) on the event, and have made Cassiopeia's actions have real depth. Hell. We still don't really know what exactly happened there...

Legacy of Xion2 votes

No one wants to see their favorite champions die. But now that this is happening, HELLO GAME OF THRONES - shit I meant HELLO LEAGUE OF LEGENDS!

Diahane5 votes

No one wants to see their favorite champions die. But now that this is happening, HELLO GAME OF THRONES - shit I meant HELLO LEAGUE OF LEGENDS!

With the only difference that I may actually trust Martin to do a better job than Riot's team; he didn't get that much success for nothing. So if I wanted a serious fantasy narrative, well, I would pick up some of his works, not Riot's. They'd be fighting a pretty one-sided battle if they tried to compete. The only reason they could ever come out with anything from it is if they were to just bet on hyping their massive not really so lore-caring playerbase with washed and dumbed down generic stories... This reminds me of something! Must be my imagination, though.

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

I am waiting for the writing to not sound like I wrote it while in the second grade. "They walk into the chamber. They go to open the doorway. The blade is a key." You serious m8?

Legacy of Xion1 votes

I am waiting for the writing to not sound like I wrote it while in the second grade. "They walk into the chamber. They go to open the doorway. The blade is a key." You serious m8?

The, the blade is THE key.

If you say the blade is a key then I think Keyblades and I don't want this half baked lore anywhere near Kingdom hearts.

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

I am waiting for the writing to not sound like I wrote it while in the second grade. "They walk into the chamber. They go to open the doorway. The blade is a key." You serious m8?

The, the blade is THE key.

If you say the blade is a key then I think Keyblades and I don't want this half baked lore anywhere near Kingdom hearts.

I just hope they don't make the mistake of ruining it so bad I only use by Xbox one lol.

Squeaky Dreemurr1 votes

This sounds like an amazingly awesome story... You've convinced me that Riot is doing the right thing.

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