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Stop using the "They have too many skins already" arguement

MavenSong··21 votes·1,958 views

Disclaimer: This does not mean skins in a short periods of time aka draven and gnar having 3 skins within a single year, that is a perfectly valid reason.

I really dislike when people use this excuse. Yes, some champions have quite a few skins but that doesnt mean riot should stop making skins for them. If a champion has a lot of older skins (Say Annie, is one of the oldest champions if i recall) suddenly stopped receiving skins, their player base would be stuck with older, far outdated skins. We already have a lot of skins that need updating, as well as players (and Rioters) being sad because there are so many unexplored ideas for champion skins but they cant give them it because "Oh they already have 10 skins".

Its a silly argument. Yes, i understand why some people think about the recent Arcade Ahri but keep in mind her last skin has been about a year ago, a year isnt that unreasonable of a timeframe. She is also a fairly easy champion to make a skin for because of her design as well as she is a fan favorite.

As for champs like Galio, Swain, and Eve, they are due for VGU's and because of that seems like a waste to have resourses poured into a skin that will get its particles changed on thier VGU. I get the frustration but thier time will come.

/end rant

20 Comments

Sharjo8 votes

I've said it before and I'll say it again; the only time a champion can be defined as having "too many skins" is when said skins start to cannibalize each other's concepts. That has yet to happen to an individual champion in League.

On another point, let's use Annie as a case study. Most skins in the game, so she has too many right? She has four legacy skins, so they can't be accessed all the time, six skins that are priced at 750 rp or under, meaning they're a remodel and that's it, one that's only available through hextech crafting, so good luck getting that, and is one of the original 20 champions who were in the game since it was made available for testing in its beta, meaning she's had more chances than just about anyone else to have skins.

Complaining about someone having too many skins is a nonsensical argument. Of course it's bothersome to many when champions like Gnar and Draven get large amounts of skins in an extremely short space of time relative to other champions, but that's it's own argument.

Eyesack1 votes

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I've said it before and I'll say it again; the only time a champion can be defined as having "too many skins" is when said skins start to cannibalize each other's concepts. That has yet to happen to an individual champion in League.

On another point, let's use Annie as a case study. Most skins in the game, so she has too many right? She has four legacy skins, so they can't be accessed all the time, six skins that are priced at 750 rp or under, meaning they're a remodel and that's it, one that's only available through hextech crafting, so good luck getting that, and is one of the original 20 champions who were in the game since it was made available for testing in its beta, meaning she's had more chances than just about anyone else to have skins.

Complaining about someone having too many skins is a nonsensical argument. Of course it's bothersome to many when champions like Gnar and Draven get large amounts of skins in an extremely short space of time relative to other champions, but that's it's own argument.

Dude the cannibalizing of skins has already happened. See commando xin zhao and secret agent xin. Honestly might as well be the same shit.

GreenLore6 votes

Yeah because wearing sunglasses instantly makes the skin the same right?

MatthewRT21 votes

yeah, it does, smh......

blackfootedfox6 votes

If a champion has a lot of older skins (Say Annie, is one of the oldest champions if i recall) suddenly stopped receiving skins, their player base would be stuck with older, far outdated skins.

Or Twitch, who did stop receiving skins and most of his older, outdated skins aren't even available most of the time.

Its a silly argument. Yes, i understand why some people think about the recent Arcade Ahri but keep in mind her last skin has been about a year ago, a year isnt that unreasonable of a timeframe.

I think this argument isn't really too many skins but rather that other champions have too little. Excluding recently released champions, some champions that are not even on the VGU list have had their playerbase feeling ignored by the Skins department because of this skin discrepancy (an example would be Viktor, who is currently popular and meta). That feeling of being forgotten by the "creates champ swag" department is why you get the "too many skins" argument posted in the boards.

I understand that certain champions can fill more skin fantasies than others but that doesn't mean leaving these skin-deprived champs that don't need VGUs out to dry. If Riot could recognize this then maybe some of the boards drama could be resolved.

AsheGetsGanked2 votes

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Or Twitch, who did stop receiving skins and most of his older, outdated skins aren't even available most of the time.

I think this argument isn't really too many skins but rather that other champions have too little. Excluding recently released champions, some champions that are not even on the VGU list have had their playerbase feeling ignored by the Skins department because of this skin discrepancy (an example would be Viktor, who is currently popular and meta). That feeling of being forgotten by the "creates champ swag" department is why you get the "too many skins" argument posted in the boards.

I understand that certain champions can fill more skin fantasies than others but that doesn't mean leaving these skin-deprived champs that don't need VGUs out to dry. If Riot could recognize this then maybe some of the boards drama could be resolved.

Exactly this. It's frustrating seeing champs get more love than others. It's not for certain players who main a champ that either a) dont have many skins to pick from Braum Viktor b) can't access all the skins that the champ has Twitch or c) their skins are mostly recolors Malzahar

We're happy skins are being made, it's just bring some attention to certain champs. There are too many champs that are being totally ignored and some that are getting too much love.

DeathBot6662 votes

It depends for me really. As someone posted earlier in the case of arcade ahri, she has 5 skins currently out, 3 are 975 and 2 are 750, while she also has a championship ahri skin which (i think) is 1350.

Meanwhile Viktor, who was legitamitely the champion released immediately after her has 2 available skins 1 at 1350 and 1 at 975 , and one legacy skin whose cost I believe was only 520 when they re-released it. The argument for me isn't that they have to many skins so they shouldn't get any more, its that they have to many skins compared to champions released at similar times so they should be sidelined for a bit while those other champs get some.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

She was sidelined for a bit. She got Challenger preseason and Academy about 2 months later. It's been about a year and a half since she got a skin. It would be too much if she got another within a few months, as much as I want a Harrowing skin for her.

DeathBot6661 votes

But my point is still that both champions are out for the same amount of time, viktor hasn't gotten a skin in 2 years, while ahri is about to get her 7th. Regardless of how long its been since her last skin she still is coming up on having 4 more skins than he does.

EDIT: You're forgetting academy, which is under a year old.

SlntReaper1 votes

Meanwhile Riot furgot about Urgot. He hasn't had a skin for at least 3 years.

MatthewRT21 votes

yeah right, Yorick hasn't had one since release

NineTailedMystic2 votes

I didn't forget Academy, it's right there in my reply. I'm pretty sure Academy came out May-June, so maybe not a year and a half, but about a year regardless.

MavenSong2 votes

looked it up, august 27 apparently, still about a year since arcade wont be released for a few weeks.

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

I don't know if Galio would be getting a full VGU. The Vanguard update is estimated to be next year and his model is fine aside from needing some better textures. If the Vanguard update happens next year, then he will likely be one of the focused champs.

But yea, amount of skins is a very unreasonable argument. If MonkeyKing didn't get his yearly skin on top of the fact he hasn't received any buffs/nerfs in over 2 years, I would be accusing Rito of forgetting he exists :p (though for future reference, it would be appreciated if he doesn't get a 5th journey to the west themed skin) Also in Ahri's defense, this will be her first 1350 RP skin, everything else has been 975 or lower.

GreenLore2 votes

Well Galio is on the list for a VGU,so unless they start to include those into the class updates,then the vanguard update won't get him any further. I mean Swain is on the list for a VGU too,which is why his update in the mage update was one on a smaller scale,because he'll get his VGU eventually anyway.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

They might do the same thing they did with Swain where they update him in the class update a bit to test some things out then give him a full update later. It just really depends on when they decided to do both of them. The Vanguard update is slated for either after the Assassin update or in a year after the Diver update (so long as they don't find another class they feel they need to work on) and Galio is on the list, but they still haven't decided on who will be after Warwick and there are a lot of champs on that list, so it could be a while before we see him get his. So really we're just going to have to wait to see what Riot is planning.

TenshouSNK1 votes

except academy ahri was out less than a year ago so why does she get a skin when other champs have waited more than a year are still in line?

MavenSong3 votes

The time the skin will actually be released it will be almost exactly a year since academy. thats plenty of time.

GULAG 4 U1 votes

So... CAN RIOT GIVE US STAR GUARDIAN Aatrox ?

Kappa

But seriously can yorick get some skins instead of annie or leesong?

MavenSong2 votes

Lee hasnt had that many a skins recently (last being from a year ago), as for yorick its been said countless times: hes up for VGU, he is not eligible for skins until then.

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