Theory about Kindred, Tahm and Aatrox and how they relate to each other

Flamewing9··1 votes·1,543 views

now before we start i want to say that this IS SPECULATION PEOPLE JESUS.

Now lets start, so my personal theory is that Kindred Tahm, and Aatrox all resemble the four horseman of the apocalypse, and how they relate to each other and ultimately the fate of runeterra.

You might be asking me... How the f*** do they relate to the four horseman and each other??

Well here is the answer.

Aatrox: Obviously represents war, showing at desperate times and siding only with the underdogs for the maximum "bloodbath"

Kindred: Death, thats it, death

Tahm kench: Now tahm kench is unique, i mark him as famine, why? He obviously isnt starving, well, in my opinion, he may be the cause of one, so Tahm represents greed as a whole, Greed itself is a great cause of famine, greed of money, food, or higher class people simply being snobs. Now tahm can also perhaps cause famine in an emotional level, he is seen giving the gambler, in his lore vid, a second "chance" at life only for it to all be taken away, eating at his suffering. Another hint of Tahm representing famine is his so called "hunger" he seems to always be hungry, requiring a meal to "satisfy" him, making him a prime candidate as an avatar of Famine.

The final link i would like to make between the 3 of them is that they are all technical manifestations, Aatrox is a manifestation of war, only appearing during times of extreme desperation, Kindred is a manifestation of death, always there but never really there, and Tahm is a manifestation of Famine and greed, manifesting only when someone is desperate enough to take ANYTHING to get them out of they're current situation. He is the perfect example of ones depravity, fear, greed, they're emotional famine, they're desolation.

AND THATS IT, IF YOU HAVE THEORIES THAT YOU THINK CAN IMPROVE THIS, PLEASE WRITE THEM IN THE COMMENTS BELOW

25 Comments

Sharjo7 votes

The thing is Flamewing9, the four horsmen of the apocalypse are like the seven deadly sins in how much people try to apply them to things that don't actually relate to each other. It probably doesn't factor in to these characters. If anything Tahm Kench would be AGAINST an apocalypse since he'd potential starve to death; he needs despair to sustain himself.

Plus where does that leave other entities? Kindred are spirits, Tahm Kench is a demon and Aatrox is a darkin, and while they are unique among those beings they aren't alone; Janna, Maokai and Bard are all spirits, there's a case to be made that some of League's champs are demons or influenced by demonic power, and there are four other darkin out there that, as far as we know, aren't being horsemen.

Also you're missing pestilence.

I'm not trying to come in here and be like "you're shit and your theory's shit", it's just that if I had a penny for every time someone came around these parts having tried to connect champions via a concept like the deadly sins or four horsemen, I'd be able to pay Riot enough money to make their entire dev cycle for the next year be skins for Sona, and I'd still have enough left over to bribe Jaredan in to letting me see all of the internal lore.

An unlikely theory, but the effort's appreciated none the less. Keep on theorizing and stuff! Just...stay away from horsemen. Or sins.

Flamewing91 votes

The point that pestilence is missing is what I am aiming at, my theory is not that they will cause the apocalypse etc, my theory is that there might be a champion linked/symbolizing pestilence. Perhaps a lore revamp that will somehow make a relationship between these 3 perhaps four champs. Why four other darkins by the way? I think the only "canon" darkin is aatrox. Please elaborate.

Sorry again that i made my lore theory unclear.

GreenLore1 votes

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Also you're missing pestilence.

Or Conquest Mordekaiser

Flamewing91 votes

Kled or Swain might serve well as conquest

Illâoi Evê Siôn1 votes

Janna, Maokai and Bard are all spirits

Bard's a celestial being.

Sharjo1 votes

He's described as a spirit in several sources, including his intro paragraph.

GreenLore2 votes

The problem I see here is that Aatrox is a darkin(and he doesn't seem to be a manifestation of war,just a demonic being that is fascinated with it) and Tahm and Kindred aren't,so I don't see why they'd be part of a "set".

Flamewing91 votes

I think you misunderstand, in a thread somewhere a rioter confirmed that Tahm is a "manifestation" of the gamblers greed, and the gambler was essentially fighting himself, while kindred is a manifestation of death that gives a choice, run and die, or stay and die(you get a hunt or an arrow you get the point)

Now why i classify aatrox as a "manifestation" of sorts, is because he only shows during times of increasingly desperate need during times of battle, Im fully aware of the fact that he is in fact a darkin, one of the last, but he is very relatable to war in more then one ways

GreenLore2 votes

Thats the thing though. Kindred is a spirit. Tahm is a demon(and judging by Shens lore,demons are also spirits)

Aatrox however seems to be a real physical being. The reason why he appears in times of need is simply because he loves difficult battles.

Also as Sharjo pointed out,it would create the question where the other demons,spirits and darkin fit into this theory.

Flamewing91 votes

Well, we only have one confirmed canon darkin...

The other spirits do not necessarily have any traits of the horsemen?

(Janna is conquest confirmed??)

Bard is not a spirit(i think) his conversation with A.SOL might make him a cosmic being, since A.SOL asked him to "choose a dimension".

So the bard part can still be debated on, but you have a good point

GreenLore1 votes

Bard is called a spirit in his own lore(which really is just a small info-dump,so I don't see a reason to mistrust it).

And we do have 4 other confirmed darkin,sure they aren't champions,but they are still characters who are confirmed to exist.

Flamewing91 votes

Then again why four other, i believe there is only one darkin shown in game, and there are 6 living darkin, your numbers do not add up...

GreenLore1 votes

YOUR numbers don't add up. It was said that there are only 5 darkin left and since Aatrox is one of those 5 darkin,that means that there are 4 other darkins,that we haven't seen yet.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak2 votes

My personal headcanon is that Aatrox is the sword, not the demon.

Flamewing92 votes

Your'e a genius

midnight oil241 votes

I thought that was confirmed?

But yeah, it's pretty cool that Aatrox is the weapon name if that's the case. It gives an interesting identity crisis to the Darkin Blade, as if he doesn't have a name, and is only known by the name of his sword, that could be a plot of him trying to figure out who he is as a person.

Nanuk Pihoqahiak1 votes

I don't think it's confirmed. My thought is that the sword will control people of significant enough power to wield it. Something akin to Soul Edge from Soul Calibur.

SolarisCorvus1 votes

While I dont agree that they would affect the fate of runeterra I can see the horseman connection. I would like to know which champion you think would be closest to strife though.

Flamewing91 votes

Well my interpretation of the four horsemen do not include strife, they include war, death, pestilence and conquest.

Now my personal opinion for "conquest" its likely to be a noxian champ maybe, due to the fact that they are very expansionist, maybe an avatar of noxus representing it?

But a potential "candidate" that i think is quite logical is:

Swain, now this guy, is a brilliant tactician, almost impervious to fault, from the lore itself, he was such a brilliant strategist and conqueror that even though he is a cripple, he is still accepted , and the first rank he gained was that of a ranked officer.

He was said to hobble at the front of the assault, and many higher ranking officers often request demotions to join his unit, he is also praised by various noxians(Sion,Darius etc), to be a "true" noxian.

Now these traits not only show him to be a brilliant strategist, but also an excellent Conqueror.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

I could take 4 random champions and say the same:

Twitch is pestilence because he uses toxic things Warwick is war... because... ITS IN HIS NAME Jhin is death, because he likes the beauty of death. Jinx is famine, because she is the skinniest champion of all... except the undeads.

The Apocalypse will start in Zaun if Jhin arrives.

or:

Teemo is pestilence because he uses toxic things Kled is war because he has been in every noxian war Veigar is death because even trembles in his presence. Ekko is famine because his family is poor and they have almost no money to buy food.

If Ekko sees a yordle, the apocalypse will begin.

Flamewing91 votes

Well, i personally am looking at this through lore and the feats they have done to earn those reputations, now lets analyze your characters.

Twitch: A rat dude that likes junk Warwick: A man transmuted to a monster seeking revenge Jhin: A man obsessed with the beuty of death but isnt death.(you know Kindred is literal death.) Jinx: A maniacal destructive psychopath

Teemo: Satan, no more no less Kled: A noxian meme although i would rather relate him to conquest Veigar: A twisted yordle with superpowers that has been driven insane due to years of captivity Ekko: Time because its all he ever has.

Overall i do not classify these champions due to the fact that they are in that state, but also judging what they achieve with that and how the actual lore relate to yknow the general theme of the horsemen, I do not appreciate the fact that you judge some of them by physicality. If your basis is correct then every poor kid i know is famine, and how do you get these 3 yordles in the list anyway, especially veigar....

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

{quoted}

Well, i personally am looking at this through lore and the feats they have done to earn those reputations, now lets analyze your characters.

Twitch: A rat dude that likes junk Warwick: A man transmuted to a monster seeking revenge Jhin: A man obsessed with the beuty of death but isnt death.(you know Kindred is literal death.) Jinx: A maniacal destructive psychopath

Teemo: Satan, no more no less Kled: A noxian meme although i would rather relate him to conquest Veigar: A twisted yordle with superpowers that has been driven insane due to years of captivity Ekko: Time because its all he ever has.

Overall i do not classify these champions due to the fact that they are in that state, but also judging what they achieve with that and how the actual lore relate to yknow the general theme of the horsemen, I do not appreciate the fact that you judge some of them by physicality. If your basis is correct then every poor kid i know is famine, and how do you get these 3 yordles in the list anyway, especially veigar....

The thing is, as Sharjo pointed out, that is easy to take random things and relate those things with the Horsemen or the deadly Sins even if it doesnt make much sense.

People has linked the 4 original champions of the void with that, the 4 city states of humans in Runeterra with that, 4 places of LoL, the champs of the Shadow Isles with the deadly sins or even Noxians with the 4 horsemen.

The only champion that actually had relation with that was Yorick, and we know what happened to him.

Flamewing91 votes

Then again i have no way to prove this theory is cannon, this is pure speculation, I understand the fact that i the subject of the horsemen are "volatile" but then again, your ideas are appreciated.[zombie-brand-clap]

Oleandervine1 votes

Riot has pretty explicitly been avoiding using religious references based on real world doctrines in their game, I don't see why they'd be secretly plugging the book of Revelations.

99Hodgey99 X21 votes

If you think about it they all turn up at certain moments.

Kindred: Shows up at death

Tahm Kench: Shows up at times of desperate need

Aatrox: shows up to war

so in conclusion i think that they could be but who is the fourth horseman

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