These Star Guardian skins weren't worth wasting the Xayah and Rakan legendary skin slots over.

Imperial Pink··6 votes·3,677 views

When it comes to consideration for legendaries Riot, please never do this again.

I am absolutely in love with my bird. Favorite ADC of all time, no cap, no second best after her. She is the most fun to play champ for me and was there for me after Irelia got gutted post shit show and has given me the best plays and time of my life.

And she deserved so much better than this.

If this is some make up for the whole worlds skin debacle which I really didn't care about - I kinda knew from the jump that Rakan would always be the first one to go solo - you didn't in the slightest. I'm sure many, many, many X/R players would have loved to wait to get something better because a much smaller group of people like star guardian than say, K/DA or even Battle Academy. This was so not worth putting a legendary price tag on because of how many players of the champions it will alienate, and it feels bad that their special, all out skins, their legendary, were wasted on this. Freaking kill them both and make them projects, I would have died over them and gone broke. But you gave them frillier, fluffier cosmic skins and expect us to be happy they're getting a almost, repeat skin? And everyone knows that it'll a cold day in hell before any champ - leona was a special case - gets more than one.

Ahri legendary Star Guardian? Perfect. Love it. Star bitch with a purpose. If this one had gone to Zoe? Great. She's legit bubbles, stars, and glitter and everything SG embodies and would've been perfect when amped upon steroids. It's something I liked on other champs. Not the way you have done it with these two. Especially when I noticed from the get go what price point they were gonna hold.

I would have been ecstatic if this slot was saved for a legendary set of Immortal Journey where the subliminal message of their every move and action could have been 'Yes, for one world's series we were apart, but our love is Immortal' and decked them out in the silks, gold, and jade accents and all the good things and made them look undeniably beautiful. No stars. No glitter. Just them, in their world finally full of magic and...happy. No bar fights, just music. No struggle to live, just an endless dance for them and them alone.

Not only would it have pushed well with their background of being Ionian champions, it would have been an amazing opportunity to make Xayah a little flowier while still maintaining her signature edginess, and make Rakan more extravagant and out there and amping up his ever present effervescent personality and polishing all his peacocky elegance. Yin and Yang at it's highest aspect. Her night to his day.

Instead we get...this. An alienating, wrong feeling, thematic that only one fits well into while the other is shoe horned in to fit in one specific aspect. Xayah is made to seem like an even bigger bitch than she is, while Rakan graciously and unnecessarily gives his last light away to her. Leaving her alone. Forever.

I really hope her castle built of the worlds ashes is grand and great for the travesty committed that is this skin set. As beautiful as the art is, and kudos to the splash artists and art team despite a few issues, I will not be purchasing these because these are not what they should have been for the price.

Please, please reconsider these skins. I truly hope in the future even, if my plea goes unheeded, it will at least make you check twice when considering future skin line ups as well as who and what should get to be called a legendary.

46 Comments

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-28T01:58:59.228+0000)

But you gave them frillier, fluffier cosmic skins and expect us to be happy they're getting a almost, repeat skin?

Im not going to lie, out of all the criticism that i have heard... this one makes alot of sense to me. I totally forgot that they had Cosmic Skins and the new ones are basically that same thing+ something extra.

Imperial Pink2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-28T06:06:50.983+0000)

Im not going to lie, out of all the criticism that i have heard... this one makes alot of sense to me. I totally forgot that they had Cosmic Skins and the new ones are basically that same thing+ something extra.

Yea I realized that early on between looking to see if they were gonna be worth 30$ once I immediately clued in to the legend status and right off the bat felt gimped. I love cosmic a lot ironically, because of how clear and clean it is, also the sound effects just resonate with me on another level. I was seriously holding out hope I was wrong.

I'm just not feeling the hybrid sweetheart/cosmic skins but hey, SG fans got easily won over with the videos so Riot still wins.

4 Step Cadence3 votes

Cho'Gath has 2 legendary skins. Corki has 2 legendary skins. Darius has 2 legendary skins. Ezreal has a legendary skin and an ultimate skin. Heim has 2 legendary skins. Leona has 2 legendary skins(even though they're technically the same skin but whatever). Tristana has 2 legendary skins.

Granted some of those skins may not be considered legendary by today's standards, but the point still stands. If those champions can have more than one legendary skin, then so can Xayah and Rakan.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:00:01.273+0000)

Cho'Gath has 2 legendary skins. Corki has 2 legendary skins. Darius has 2 legendary skins. Ezreal has a legendary skin and an ultimate skin. Heim has 2 legendary skins. Leona has 2 legendary skins(even though they're technically the same skin but whatever). Tristana has 2 legendary skins.

Granted some of those skins may not be considered legendary by today's standards, but the point still stands. If those champions can have more than one legendary skin, then so can Xayah and Rakan.

I did not know this at all, thank you for bringing this to my attention <3

Though you already pointed it out some could not be considered legendary by today's standards, and the bar has been set higher, I would also like to point out they are also much older champions in comparison and noticeably so when said legend skins are used. Also, Cho'gaths was a skin for a really sweet and talented cancer patient, so I think it is now considered a mythic and locked behind gem stones. Ezreal's I think was more a consequence of being super old and having an ulti to hide, that then getting a rework and not having a legendary previous (at least to my knowledge).

With that said, I don't see anyone outside of older champs getting more than one any time soon because visually it makes them look cleaner than their dated base models can while newer champs can and will get away with just really good looking epics. That's what I meant in reference to their legendary slot because outside of that, it's a slim an dsmall chance, plus if they do decide to make another one (here's to hope!) it will be years in the future once other under loved champs get their much needed skins outside of the ones they had for debut.

But seriously, thank you for pointing this out. I honestly had no idea.

4 Step Cadence3 votes

Dark Star Cho'Gath is the cancer patient skin, and I don't think its legendary. The legendary skins I saw for him are Battlecast and Gentleman. But if Dark Star is legendary, that means he has 3.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:28:27.878+0000)

Dark Star Cho'Gath is the cancer patient skin, and I don't think its legendary. The legendary skins I saw for him are Battlecast and Gentleman. But if Dark Star is legendary, that means he has 3.

Wait

Gentleman's legend status? Ok then...

Also Dark Star is confirmed Mythic.

Thank you again tho.

4 Step Cadence3 votes

Are you saying Mythics are legendary or saying that its not legendary because its Mythic? Cause legendary skins(at least modern ones) need a few things in order to be classed as that. New animations all around(not just a new recall, but new attacks, homeguard, walk, idle, joke, taught, dance, laugh, ect), new VO, and quite a few other things I may be forgetting. If Dark Star Cho doesn't have any of that, then he's likely not classed as legendary. And "mythic" skins are just skins that you can only get through Hextech crafting with the gemstones, I believe.

Also yes, since Gentleman Cho has a new VO, its considered legendary by the standards of the time period it was created in.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:41:21.368+0000)

Are you saying Mythics are legendary or saying that its not legendary because its Mythic? Cause legendary skins(at least modern ones) need a few things in order to be classed as that. New animations all around(not just a new recall, but new attacks, homeguard, walk, idle, joke, taught, dance, laugh, ect), new VO, and quite a few other things I may be forgetting. If Dark Star Cho doesn't have any of that, then he's likely not classed as legendary. And "mythic" skins are just skins that you can only get through Hextech crafting with the gemstones, I believe.

Also yes, since Gentleman Cho has a new VO, its considered legendary by the standards of the time period it was created in.

Oh no! Sorry for the confusion.

I meant DS Cho is definitely classified as a Mythic because it is gemstone locked and marked by the purple gem for skin tiers; checked after you told me about this actually. I'm also pretty sure it does not check off all the Legend boxes, so it is not both a Legend and a Mythic. I have to check again.

And yea the other skins def do qualify as Legends I was just surprised cuz of how old look and are compared to newer ones lol

G0blinSlay3r2 votes

Now you know how i feel about project jinx.

Imperial Pink3 votes

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Now you know how i feel about project jinx.

Bruh I threw a bitch fit about that skin too it was so shit xD

This is coming from someone who hates the champ with a passion lol I felt so bad for Jinx fans

G0blinSlay3r3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T02:06:12.711+0000)

Bruh I threw a bitch fit about that skin too it was so shit xD

This is coming from someone who hates the champ with a passion lol I felt so bad for Jinx fans

Seriously idk why were being downvoted for speaking our minds. Seems very back handed.

So much potential for riot to do great inspiring work. And we get the bottom of the bucket.

Imperial Pink1 votes

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Seriously idk why were being downvoted for speaking our minds. Seems very back handed.

So much potential for riot to do great inspiring work. And we get the bottom of the bucket.

I mean I expect it. The pitfalls of online.

Opinions are subjective and I don't really care anymore to be honest. I said what I said. I just post anyway, cuz I know its usually the silent minority agrees, but are always drowned out by the vocal minority. People do like star guardian skins so i can't really fault people for liking this, I just feel its too close to cosmic for me. It's just an overall better despite being their debut skin. I also like legendaries to push what the champion is, i.e. Cosmic Jhin, Galaxy Zed, but this feels like they just pushed a champs into a narrative and said 'ehh, half of it fits, just make them both evil so the other half does too.' Cuz like i get it. Xayah's a bitch. But shes fighting to save her people in a world where magic is literally there life blood and its being limited to the point of their extinction. She has good reason to be.

Also when your starved of content for your loved champions, it tends to happen honestly.

G0blinSlay3r2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T02:23:27.637+0000)

I mean I expect it. The pitfalls of online.

Opinions are subjective and I don't really care anymore to be honest. I said what I said. I just post anyway, cuz I know its usually the silent minority agrees, but are always drowned out by the vocal minority. People do like star guardian skins so i can't really fault people for liking this, I just feel its too close to cosmic for me. It's just an overall better despite being their debut skin. I also like legendaries to push what the champion is, i.e. Cosmic Jhin, Galaxy Zed, but this feels like they just pushed a champs into a narrative and said 'ehh, half of it fits, just make them both evil so the other half does too.' Cuz like i get it. Xayah's a bitch. But shes fighting to save her people in a world where magic is literally there life blood and its being limited to the point of their extinction. She has good reason to be.

Also when your starved of content for your loved champions, it tends to happen honestly.

i can so relate. honestly many times i feel like people just want to secretly ignore everything and act like it's amazing because that is their job. to do damage control and sway opinion.

Imperial Pink2 votes

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i can so relate. honestly many times i feel like people just want to secretly ignore everything and act like it's amazing because that is their job. to do damage control and sway opinion.

I mean it very well could be. I just don't support it or fall for it monetarily which more people should do if they want to show riot they mean what they say. But as shown even with the whole prestiege shit show people

say stop doing them>riot does it anyway and launches it for some busted ass, broad spectrum fanbase champion>people suggest changes respectful to artist integrity because as they expected they don't like it>get ignored>riot posts the 'fix'>it's what no one wanted but 'it looks so much better now!' and they have to accept it because they've been telling riot with all these launches of prestiege skins, which they still continue to support with passes that it is acceptable to continue to be ignored when many die hards of under-content-fed champions wouldn't mind having a skin pushed back if it meant more went into finally getting something for a champion they love.

Hell I've done it too but that will be the last time, cuz it's honestly still trash. Only reason I did is cuz my friend bought me the pass and imma feel bad if I don't get the skin.

Or even worse, as I had a whole other dissertation for the Jinx skin, have time to source the artist for concept art and bring them on for that specific skin and give them credit for it after work is done, but don't. Same with BM Evelynn.

Money talks. I've already discussed with my Rakan actually. If you hate it, don't get it. It's simple. I'm just more upset, vocal, and somber about it because in this specific case X/R mean a whole lot to me and the skins team is my favorite Riot division but they really let me down. Not to mention wasted a very valuable skin slot for my birds when they didn't need too.

4 Step Cadence3 votes

You didn't get downvoted for speaking your mind.

You got downvoted because you admitted that you were going to break the TOS by installing 3rd party software to change PROJECT: Jinx and stream yourself afking every time you see the skin in-game.

Don't act like a fucking victim, cause you're not.

Imperial Pink3 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:02:19.217+0000)

You didn't get downvoted for speaking your mind.

You got downvoted because you admitted that you were going to break the TOS by installing 3rd party software to change PROJECT: Jinx and stream yourself afking every time you see the skin in-game.

Don't act like a fucking victim, cause you're not.

They did that? Oh god, I had no idea :(

4 Step Cadence3 votes

Yep.

Using custom skins honestly shouldn't be bannable for this exact reason, but since they're 3rd party software, which is under the same category as using a bot to level your account and using software to cheat, you get banned for using them. Sucks, I know, but that's the way it is.

As for the AFK thing, probably an empty threat, but I've seen people AFK over nothing before, so I wouldn't hold it against them to actually do it.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:34:57.693+0000)

Yep.

Using custom skins honestly shouldn't be bannable for this exact reason, but since they're 3rd party software, which is under the same category as using a bot to level your account and using software to cheat, you get banned for using them. Sucks, I know, but that's the way it is.

As for the AFK thing, probably an empty threat, but I've seen people AFK over nothing before, so I wouldn't hold it against them to actually do it.

Eh, I mean I would ruin someone else's game over a skin, but ye ur right.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:37:36.630+0000)

Eh, I mean I would ruin someone else's game over a skin, but ye ur right.

idk why would riot spend 5 years torturing me.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:02:19.217+0000)

You didn't get downvoted for speaking your mind.

You got downvoted because you admitted that you were going to break the TOS by installing 3rd party software to change PROJECT: Jinx and stream yourself afking every time you see the skin in-game.

Don't act like a fucking victim, cause you're not.

i never said i was installing 3rd party software. Show me where i said that!

4 Step Cadence2 votes

It's so bad... that i'm going to mod my client to replace it with the stock model.

Modding the client = using 3rd party software.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:24:13.564+0000)

Modding the client = using 3rd party software.

Wrong.. Learn how software works. i don't need a 3rd part application. "what application will you say i used when i used none." And it's unbannable if it does not modify anything.

4 Step Cadence2 votes

It modifies the skin. You literally said what it modifies.

And an edited skin is an unapproved 3rd party application. Its the same as custom skins, which you can get banned for using due to the way the system works.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=00000000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:41:43.451+0000)

It modifies the skin. You literally said what it modifies.

And an edited skin is an unapproved 3rd party application. Its the same as custom skins, which you can get banned for using due to the way the system works.

No it's edited content. but legally if this modification has 0% impact on any aspect of the game then you have nothing to report nor ban. Because nothing happened.

it's banned because people were creating their own clipping maps and changing them.. something that should have been serverside since day 1.

4 Step Cadence2 votes

Edited content = modded content, and you do not have permission to use it or add it to the game files. That is reportable, and you can get banned for it.

But I believe the system bans automatically when it detects such software anyway, so you don't even need to get reported.

You also admitted that you're going to do that and probably already have. That's even more evidence to ban you on.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:50:16.706+0000)

Edited content = modded content, and you do not have permission to use it or add it to the game files. That is reportable, and you can get banned for it.

But I believe the system bans automatically when it detects such software anyway, so you don't even need to get reported.

You also admitted that you're going to do that and probably already have. That's even more evidence to ban you on.

And who is going to report me? No one would ever even know if i did it. i would be the only guy that sees it.

You sound like a emisary reading a script.

nah buddy i'm replacing jinx with a pink Square covered in question marks.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:50:16.706+0000)

Edited content = modded content, and you do not have permission to use it or add it to the game files. That is reportable, and you can get banned for it.

But I believe the system bans automatically when it detects such software anyway, so you don't even need to get reported.

You also admitted that you're going to do that and probably already have. That's even more evidence to ban you on.

In that case explain why a few streamers were not banned. recent streams. players with LoL unlocked. and they are not banned. Hypocrites.

G0blinSlay3r1 votes

[{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0000000000000001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:50:16.706+0000)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJAr2Mpirkk proof provided that riot treats everyone differently regardless of their of acting so neutral. really if you claim the system works then why is ross still not down a account?

Kayoka Juesent1 votes

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Now you know how i feel about project jinx.

Ohhhhhh, I would agree, totally agree

LadyAlbaKurosaki2 votes

They are bleak. Too much, their story, their recalls their dance, their pallette. Star guardian fans liked them because they were the oposite of bleak and I doubt the birbs mains were into Star Guardians anyways. Objectively the skins are decent but almost no one wanted them... not like this at least

Imperial Pink2 votes

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They are bleak. Too much, their story, their recalls their dance, their pallette. Star guardian fans liked them because they were the oposite of bleak and I doubt the birbs mains were into Star Guardians anyways. Objectively the skins are decent but almost no one wanted them... not like this at least

Oh my gosh I love you.
This has been my thought process the entire time. It just isn't where the investment, or these skins in general, should have gone because I don't know a single bird duo outside a very select few who would have wanted this for the legend slot but would have been totally fine with them as an epic.

BlackKnightJack2 votes

Decidedly not true. Star Guardian Xayah is amazing.

Imperial Pink2 votes

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Decidedly not true. Star Guardian Xayah is amazing.

Where did i say the skins didn't look good? Please, point it out to me.

From a completely objective stand point, yeah. The skins look great. I will admit that if it weren't for my lack of love towards the fact I hate they're their legendaries, which there will never be two of for one champ, I would have been fine with and bought them. I even clearly stated that in the end and the title of my comments.

I am speaking as a Xayah main. I've heard damn near every single voice line and interaction between my love birds and hearing them speak in these skins feels like ice in my veins because it does not sound like them to me. I am salty that this will be their legendary skin legacy when it didn't need to be. However, like I said before, if this was another epic set i would have been completely and totally fine.

If u think they are, and that they are great as X/R's legendaries, good for you. I hope you enjoy them. It is my opinion with a few facts about the skins sprinkled in here and there, and I am completely okay agreeing to disagree here.

Jesi Oni2 votes

Well I dont like those skins but skins that you want would be even worse... I almost vomited reading about your expectations.

Imperial Pink2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-28T07:32:50.015+0000)

Well I dont like those skins but skins that you want would be even worse... I almost vomited reading about your expectations.

I mean I didn't say they had to do it, it would have been a nice idea. What I wrote was to try and paint a picture, since I can't exactly 3d model something in 15 minutes to post. And as someone who mains this champion, wouldn't you feel the same if you heard one of your mains was gonna get one and when it was put on pre-release it felt really underwhelming to you?

The legends could be anything except these, the joke skins, or infernal honestly. My expectations though high, still aren't actually that high because despite my trust in the art team most of the time, at the end of the day it still is Riot who we are talking about.

I was just spit balling for most, except IJ. Which i'm sorry you don't like but hey, opinions are opinions and each one's different and I will respect yours, though I do feel they'd fit IJ really well.

PrettyGirlsFeet2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-28T01:58:59.228+0000)

I am imploring you from the depths of my soul. Never do this again.

drama queen. didn't even read more past this

Imperial Pink2 votes

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drama queen. didn't even read more past this

Can't please everyone. Just goes to show you weren't going to share anything constructive anyway.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pink,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-08-28T15:31:56.832+0000)

Can't please everyone. Just goes to show you weren't going to share anything constructive anyway, but thank you for feedback.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

I got the feeling that Star Guardian is way more popular than Battle Academia....

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-28T10:54:21.955+0000)

I got the feeling that Star Guardian is way more popular than Battle Academia....

I mean, it depends on your point of view really.
In a larger scope Battle Academy, even though the champ pool is much more limited as of right now, it will hit a lot more people when it eventually does expand because it won't feel as alienating as something super glittery and frilly as SG. However you are right in that many people that do like it because of old MG animes and will buy because of it. You also have to consider time. Battle Academy is a super new anime skin line in comparison so people may not be a fan of it because none of their mains or in it or they don't like the champs that were in the pool.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Fair points, but there is another point to consider in my opinion.

Battle Academia definitely had (or better put, still has) the potential to become equally popular as Star Guardian. But Riot kinda messed up their marketing in my opinion.

The Battle Academia event was a bit overshadowed by all this "chose your house" stuff, I barely saw anyone talking about Battle Academia here in the boards. Riot should have made it a stand alone event, maybe with a game mode like they did with Star Guardian invasion back then, to properly establish this skin line. But this didn't happen.

It might change later, when (or if) they add more skins to that skin line. But I think Riot has wasted alot of potential here and I don't see Battle Academia being able to compete with Star Guardian right now.

Imperial Pink1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ZZNNlwu,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-08-28T15:38:11.119+0000)

Fair points, but there is another point to consider in my opinion.

Battle Academia definitely had (or better put, still has) the potential to become equally popular as Star Guardian. But Riot kinda messed up their marketing in my opinion.

The Battle Academia event was a bit overshadowed by all this "chose your house" stuff, I barely saw anyone talking about Battle Academia here in the boards. Riot should have made it a stand alone event, maybe with a game mode like they did with Star Guardian invasion back then, to properly establish this skin line. But this didn't happen.

It might change later, when (or if) they add more skins to that skin line. But I think Riot has wasted alot of potential here and I don't see Battle Academia being able to compete with Star Guardian right now.

Oh yeah no definitely. I'm speaking on popularity from reactions I got outside the forums on each one after people swallowed 'another freaking lux skin +1'. People really liked the MHA concept and how it was done. I even saw fanart for champs in the line pretty fast, like Camille, Irelia, and Zoe. Marketing does play a huge part in how a skin line will be received and they did jack shit for BA outside the 'choose your house' and 'what your house stands for' videos. Something like SG has nostalgia to immediately garner attention, whereas BA is so new, and inspired by something so new, it really has to be both good on its own and well marketed.

I feel like Riot kinda tried to gimp the skins by playing the house event as the skins event itself cuz they push each house with a specific skin once you chose. Council=Jayce, Faceless=Ezreal, ect. And then that was it.

BA will definitely expand but I feel it'll be more like Project in a sense. It will start off with a few skins and the hextech crafting it did start off with, but then get something like PROJECT: Hunters, which is actually the first, what I would consider, full major event for PROJECT with the game mode and all crafting included. Cuz hunters brought back and added a lot of things. The minions for old and the game mode and of course the color story of 'Neon Mice' for new. I feel like BA didn't even really get that much, as I think the minions were just normal minions and towers were still basic towers. Only thing map wise that changed was the Championship accents plus house icons on the floor.

Competing wise, yes currently the only thing that could theoretically knock down SG, is PROJECT or K/DA. PROJECT has the establishment and K/DA, despite how green it is, already has a universe page and a massive cult following. Everyone knew wtf a K/DA was even if they didn't know what K/DA was.

Daddy Viktor2 votes

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Stargot will be a reality!!!!!!

Imperial Pink1 votes

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Stargot will be a reality!!!!!!

Dont let your dreams be memes.

Tíma2 votes

Xayah is made to seem like an even bigger bitch than she is

This is one of my biggest complaints against this skin. For all the issues with her not having a purified form, her personality is absolutely abhorrent. The description of the skin says she died and was resurrected, seems almost happy about it, but also has doubts...about what? All of her VO lines make her sound bitter, angry and like she is lashing out to everyone in some way shape or form. She is supposed to be this tragic hero that got manipulated by Zoe into being evil, not this hard edged anti-villain that hates everyone. That is not likeable nor does it make me feel sympathetic to her circumstances.

Rakan on the other hand is grounded and keeps his sympathetic slant by being self sacrificing because of his love for Xayah. People can empathize with that and admire his selflessness. You can tell that he is forcing himself when he fights against his friends, whilst being the lovable dork we know Rakan can be.

Xayah? Bitchy and cruel to the degree that she loses my sympathy because she does not show any vulnerable moments. She never shows any feelings of hesitation against fighting her friends, these supposed doubts she has about...whatever she has doubts about, or an unwillingness to want be Zoe's puppet. The closest line we get is

"I can play the part of the evil star guardian come back to betray her friends, but I don't have to be happy about it" Which tells us she is self aware of her being manipulated...but she doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. Like she has just resigned herself to being Zoe's plaything whilst reveling in being harsh and cruel to her friends. That is not sympathetic. That does not make me feel for her. That makes me apathetic and tired. Definitely will not be purchasing this skin.

Imperial Pink2 votes

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This is one of my biggest complaints against this skin. For all the issues with her not having a purified form, her personality is absolutely abhorrent. The description of the skin says she died and was resurrected, seems almost happy about it, but also has doubts...about what? All of her VO lines make her sound bitter, angry and like she is lashing out to everyone in some way shape or form. She is supposed to be this tragic hero that got manipulated by Zoe into being evil, not this hard edged anti-villain that hates everyone. That is not likeable nor does it make me feel sympathetic to her circumstances.

Rakan on the other hand is grounded and keeps his sympathetic slant by being self sacrificing because of his love for Xayah. People can empathize with that and admire his selflessness. You can tell that he is forcing himself when he fights against his friends, whilst being the lovable dork we know Rakan can be.

Xayah? Bitchy and cruel to the degree that she loses my sympathy because she does not show any vulnerable moments. She never shows any feelings of hesitation against fighting her friends, these supposed doubts she has about...whatever she has doubts about, or an unwillingness to want be Zoe's puppet. The closest line we get is

"I can play the part of the evil star guardian come back to betray her friends, but I don't have to be happy about it" Which tells us she is self aware of her being manipulated...but she doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. Like she has just resigned herself to being Zoe's plaything whilst reveling in being harsh and cruel to her friends. That is not sympathetic. That does not make me feel for her. That makes me apathetic and tired. Definitely will not be purchasing this skin.

Thank you!!! Like I clocked that immediately. The VO does nothing to show that part at all, it's what i loved so much about her base VO, even tho yea she's an edgy e-girl she has a reason - to not freaking die due to people limiting the magic they need to survive. Here she just seems to do as you said, roll over and do nothing about it which isn't her.

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