Wow, I honestly didn't think that sylas had such a mass effect on Demacia, This whole entire dilemma might change the whole entire story of Demacia in the future and how we look at the champions of Demacia. Also, does this mean that eventually Lux and Garen might have to fight each other? Choose her royal family or her mage family? That might be heartbreaking
Warlord Rhinark2 votesWell, Sylas betrayed Lux's trust, and Lux truly believes in the good of Demacia.
This, coupled with her brother's allegiance, makes it very unlikely for her to side with Sylas.
Moody P2 votesSylas will lose because Demacia is morally right
Arakadia1 votesBeing morally right does not mean you will win.
Jaspers2 votesConsidering Sylas is a murdering maniac, even mages who side with him won't in the end. As soon as he killed for the sake of murder he lost any credibility as a revolutionary he had. Bully tactics will cause disruption in his ranks.
Camille Ferrøs1 votesI mean we all know that Demacia will one day accept magic..
Critmaster Garen4 votes[{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5et1kxbM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-29T14:32:58.698+0000)
I mean we all know that Demacia will one day accept magic..
the crown already does. though its in secret at the moment.
what they dont accept is mages walking the streets without regulation or control.
which makes perfect sense if you think about it. annie killed her entire family. sylas had a whoopsie and accidentally killed 3 people, including a little girl who had no control over her power herself. and thats just the innocent ones.
there are also the real bad ones who abuse their power, like the witch from garens story and a lot of leagues mages as a whole.
you cant have these ticking time bombs just living among your population without regulating them in some form.
demacia is made to look bad right now, because they take mages from their families and imprison them. but the only thing we know so far is that only those who resist authority or commit crimes land in prison. we dont know what actually happens to those who come in on their own free will.
lux whole biography might give us a hint that theyre actually trained and educated to control their powers, and use them for the benefit of demacia.
if youre looking at the whole picture, demacias methods are pretty reasonable.
Jaspers1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5et1kxbM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-29T15:03:38.732+0000)
you cant have these ticking time bombs just living among your population without regulating them in some form.
That's what the mutan... I mean Mage Registration Act is for.
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Critmaster Garen2 votesThat's what the mutan... I mean Mage Registration Act is for.
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the comparison didnt escape me.
yea, this whole story feels like x men. you have the mutant registration on one side, galio is a sentinel, and sylas is basically magneto.
but still, we know from a lot of leagues stories by now that young mages often cant control their powers. even if they dont want to, theyre still often a danger to others and themselves. so what are you going to do in that situation? just having these accidents happen from time to time and have a load of civillians harmed or killed as a result?
so in demacia, they put down the law that if youre a mage you have to turn yourself in. if you try to hide it or resist, you get arrested.
if they come in, they most likely end up joining the illuminators and similar secret mage orders who are working for the crown.
i mean yea, it sucks for the mages, but doing nothing about them is even worse.
Jaspers1 votesIndeed, which is why Demacia should be taking the Dragon Age approach, round them up and give them a nice life where they can practice their magic in safety under guard. This kind of life is still better than killing someone you love accidentally.
Critmaster Garen2 votesIndeed, which is why Demacia should be taking the Dragon Age approach, round them up and give them a nice life where they can practice their magic in safety under guard. This kind of life is still better than killing someone you love accidentally.
they might already be doing that.
like i said. we dont know what happens to mages who turn themselves in voluntarily. we know of lux that she is part of a secret demacian mage order, and that she is indeed working for the crown.
i think, because its a secret organization, no one else knows whats happening to them. there is probably exactly a dragon age situation going on in demacia, and other than that they cant see their families and are probably heavily supervised, theyre probably fine.
the ones who are either resisting, trying to hide their abilities or are outright criminals like sylas go to prison.
BoringLittleF2 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5et1kxbM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-29T15:03:38.732+0000)
the crown already does. though its in secret at the moment.
what they dont accept is mages walking the streets without regulation or control.
They do not accept mages at all. At least if these mages can't buy their freedom 
which makes perfect sense if you think about it. annie killed her entire family. sylas had a whoopsie and accidentally killed 3 people, including a little girl who had no control over her power herself. and thats just the innocent ones.
Because they had to figure their magic out all by themselves and that's an entirely Demacia's fault. Instead of seeking knowledge for helping the magic wielding citizens control themselves they just lock them up and hope they die. This is why the mages who go into hiding are on their own.
there are also the real bad ones who abuse their power, like the witch from garens story and a lot of leagues mages as a whole.
Well, supressing and antagonizing someone will do wonders to fix that issue 
demacia is made to look bad right now, because they take mages from their families and imprison them. but the only thing we know so far is that only those who resist authority or commit crimes land in prison. we dont know what actually happens to those who come in on their own free will.
Demacians treat those who come on their own free will like dirt that's what they do. Their treatment of Arjen in the Turmoil story was quite evident and Sylas was like a leper to his handlers.
Critmaster Garen1 votesThey do not accept mages at all. At least if these mages can't buy their freedom
youre projecting. there have been a buch of smaller hints to what happens when mages are brought in. in the new story "turmoil" one of the younger mageseekers accidentally let it slip and was quickly silenced.
lux was never brought in by the mageseekers, probably because her mother had connections to the illuminators themselves and brought lux into their ranks quetly.
but the fact that this order of mages under the command of the crown even exists and how lux was offered either to join their ranks or be exiled sheds some light on what happens when mages arent trying to hide but turn themselves in willingly.
sylas himself was supposed to become a mageseeker and use his powers in service of demacia. so there were definitely others than just children of nobles.
Because they had to figure their magic out all by themselves and that's an entirely Demacia's fault.
it might be exactly the opposite. right now, theyre supposed to come in with the mageseekers. either willingly or by force. what happens to those who just go with them is still a mystery.
it might be more of a case "either you come with us and learn to control your power, or you get out of the country".
i suspect that its like the other guy said and very similar to the mages in dragon age. whenever a mage is found, they are also taken to the mage order without much of a choice about it. theyre under constant supervision of the templar and mostly locked up in their towers. but theyre given a place to learn and practise their powers together.
the fear of magic is deeply rooted in demacias society as a result of what happened during the rune wars. the crown probably only has their mages operate in secret, because theyre afraid that the majority of the population wouldnt tolerate it and riot.
Instead of seeking knowledge for helping the magic wielding citizens control themselves they just lock them up and hope they die.
except we only know of dangerous mages that had been locked up. sylas killed 3 people with his magic and then went on the run. we dont know what he did afterwards (at least i didnt read other stories of him yet). we know that hes a complete nutjob right now. thats why he was locked up in prison.
Demacians treat those who come on their own free will like dirt that's what they do. Their treatment of Arjen in the Turmoil story was quite evident and Sylas was like a leper to his handlers.
arjen was met with fear by some of the soldiers, especially in an environment where dangerous mages are causing trouble. but the fact that the crown was willing to ask the help of mages outside of demacia to deal with sylas revolt is more evidence that the crown is willing to employ mages when deemed neccessary.
BoringLittleF1 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5et1kxbM,comment-id=0003000000010000,timestamp=2019-01-29T20:18:07.773+0000)
youre projecting. there have been a buch of smaller hints to what happens when mages are brought in. in the new story "turmoil" one of the younger mageseekers accidentally let it slip and was quickly silenced.
It was obviously nothing good. Otherwise they both wouldn't be so grim. And if it was of any good, why keep it secret from their parents and make it look like they should forget about their magic-tainted children because they won't bee seeing them anyways?
lux was never brought in by the mageseekers, probably because her mother had connections to the illuminators themselves and brought lux into their ranks quetly.
It's omitted from Lux's bio now, but it was stated that her mother and father used their money and status to make people "ignore" Lux's weird behavior. The Illuminators came later and it happened without their assistance.
but the fact that this order of mages under the command of the crown even exists and how lux was offered either to join their ranks or be exiled sheds some light on what happens when mages arent trying to hide but turn themselves in willingly.
Or because Lux was a Crownguard which would mean a lot of complications with branding a member of a very influential family as a mage, exiling her and disgracing the entire family that has been serving the king for years. So they decided to use her instead of losing a whole bunch of assets.
sylas himself was supposed to become a mageseeker and use his powers in service of demacia. so there were definitely others than just children of nobles.
Once again, he was treated like a dog with no say on anything since he was a child.
it might be exactly the opposite. right now, theyre supposed to come in with the mageseekers. either willingly or by force. what happens to those who just go with them is still a mystery. it might be more of a case "either you come with us and learn to control your power, or you get out of the country".
In nowhere did they say that they would learn the mages to control their power. All they did is called them afflicted and left them to rot in a slums (it was mentioned in Lux and Galio story)
i suspect that its like the other guy said and very similar to the mages in dragon age. whenever a mage is found, they are also taken to the mage order without much of a choice about it. theyre under constant supervision of the templar and mostly locked up in their towers. but theyre given a place to learn and practise their powers together.
And it resulted in a lots of power abuse from Templars and young mages going crazy because they believed they were cursed in the womb. Not the most effective method of dealing with the issue.
the fear of magic is deeply rooted in demacias society as a result of what happened during the rune wars. the crown probably only has their mages operate in secret, because theyre afraid that the majority of the population wouldnt tolerate it and riot.
Yet they do not do any work on dismantling that fear. They use it to control people and make them believe that the world behind Demacia is a savage place that needs a lesson in valor.
except we only know of dangerous mages that had been locked up. sylas killed 3 people with his magic and then went on the run.
We have seen mageseekers beat up a girl's father brutally to lure her out. The man was simply afraid that they will hurt her when they take her away and it's not like they were trying to prove him wrong. So it's obvious all mages get the criminal treatment.
we dont know what he did afterwards (at least i didnt read other stories of him yet). we know that hes a complete nutjob right now. thats why he was locked up in prison.
He became a nutjob after spending half of his life like a mageseekers' servant, then after staying 15 years in prison, and then being sentenced to death.
arjen was met with fear by some of the soldiers, especially in an environment where dangerous mages are causing trouble.
The only thing that stopped them was his foreign status. But I don't imagine their treat their own mages any better.
but the fact that the crown was willing to ask the help of mages outside of demacia to deal with sylas revolt is more evidence that the crown is willing to employ mages when deemed neccessary.
The ruling caste is not following what they preach - nothing new about it.
