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suppouse to thank to riot for that??

TheLegendBoy··2 votes·1,473 views

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So i should thank Riot for offering me every day players who just missbehave my games ,and troll pick and flame , and troll not just me and others ...

This guy seen that i wanted to pick an adc who needs protection and sustain , and he picks ziggs support ,even if he totaly had 2 games at that moment played as ziggs , 6 games all the season 2019 , and the game he played support ziggs was the 3 rd game of him playing ranked ,now believe me ,when i say enemy had blitz and kai'sa , and he was likely leaving me open target picking that hero as support ... , played as safe as possible farmed ,leaved enemy to push etc... .

So after a time he starts to become toxic against me , + after he finally took us to death , he manage to start and give them kills ,and get enemy grabs etc... , or stay just next to enemy not even trying to dodge enemy q .. , so i guess that's a form of grief , no pink wards ,low vision score , and he also ended the game 1/12/16 score ,because i pulled out extremly good plays , but we started bot lane like 2 5 me , and he was like 2 6 ,i had enemy extremly strong , and a vi in enemy team + lux and blitz ,having no real sustain behind as protection , had to pull perfect plays to don't die and get catched by enemy , and even so i made a quadra kill almost penta kill ,staying full hp .

I do have experience in this game as adc , i no want to show the number ,because then you would be suspicious about my starting score and put questions.

but after the first game of him with ziggs today , he keeped play ziggs support and die much ... , so i don't think is normal that he haven't got 14 days ban for grief in the conditions he also flamed me , and he also farmed my lane which i forgeted to tell you.

He been autofill support , but that dosn't give anyone rights to troll and grief others ,and i one happens to see same thing happening many times ,even had one game yesterday in my series , with maokai support , vs yummi and sivir , and thrust me it was like not okey , he not even coulded catch enemy to combo and help me to take them down , so we lost game in the end ... , they had a super strong rehealer ,as he had ardent censer and graham item who amplify heals/shields.

so my question , does Riot considering to start do something in that sense .

**Trolling behaviour definition should be = Anyone who grief his own team ,and put in difficulty extremly hard the fate of his team in the cases they loss should be charged with punishments... .

Let's say you have 2/6 score ,that's not a grief troll , if you stop from doing that and build tanky if it's necesary or bruiser.. , if you can do that ... , or play more safe..

But when you get 0/16 yasuo ,that dosn't anymore look like even if he would play normal ,dosn't look like is a bad game for him , as he clearly just put our team in difficulty which means our chances to win been affected.

So basically a taft definition of troll/grief , would be anyone who attempt to lower the chances of his team in winning a game , intentionally!!!! , if someone refuses to take advices and to stop from giving enemy kills ,if he is asked to play defensive and don't proceed to do that , should definetly pulled out for intentionally griefing his team as he refuse directly to play for win and just push his score higher negative, deaths ,increasing the chances of your team to loss the game .**

I know it sound stupid ,but it must be done , i no want to see people who do what they want , over and over again ... , something have to put thinghs where these belong.

P.S : I won the game , i just played to win , because i knowed he grief+ been toxic and even if he don't deserve to win the game he will eventually reach nothing from winning that game thanks to me.

20 Comments

zPOOPz6 votes

so you are bitching about someone's choice of champion?

#entitled

TheLegendBoy2 votes

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so you are bitching about someone's choice of champion?

#entitled

is not his picks , is about the fact he just can't protect and clearly expose you to loss the game , he instant lock ziggs , and not even prepick it , having lower experience over it , and also pulling extremly bad plays ,constantly not just in my game ,where he actually stayed to die and offer enemy kills , and also flame me + took my farm + had low vision score like 16 vision score in min 39 , that means , he warded quitly often with support item , no have to talk about pink wards use.

We almost lost the game ,my experience managed to save the game and win it .. , enemy kai'sa had 17 9 score , so that dosn't mean he haven't troll/grief and that i am just complaining about his picks... , i just talked about the fact that i very often meet trollers/griefers who play ranked autofill and escape the punishment system very easy...

zPOOPz4 votes

well. you could try picking an adc that doesn't need so much protection? not picking or playing how YOU want is NOT trolling

TheLegendBoy2 votes

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well. you could try picking an adc that doesn't need so much protection? not picking or playing how YOU want is NOT trolling

i was locking before he pick...

I also in this thread mention how trolling should be defined and punished as , i think you should take an eye for

zPOOPz6 votes

did he had a say in who you pick? why should you have a say in who he picked? Is not picking or playing who you want your definition of trolling and griefing?

TheLegendBoy2 votes

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did he had a say in who you pick? why should you have a say in who he picked? Is not picking or playing who you want your definition of trolling and griefing?

... what is this about , is not exactly about his pick exactly ,he also grief/troll , and also flame ,and also took my farm ,this thread exactly showing the proof that people can grief support being autofill very often and riot dosn't consider to analys people who get autofill in support role , and watch more much them behaviour.

I am sure if you will play adc , you wouldn't be happy to get something who can't protects you in case you need as support when enemy just have normal support ,and that guy who plays with teleport as support when enemy support had ignite .. , so i have to mention his intentions of trolling wasn't obvious ??

if i pick heal , i pick it to help my team and save my support or me if i get low hp or him ,but what if i go then barier and don't give any shit about others... ,just playing for my ass... , and having barrier at 180 seconds instead of 240 seconds

zPOOPz3 votes

he also grief/troll

That is a very subjective definition. Without having witness the game myself, I suppose we only have your word for it.

and also flame

That is punishable, but not under trolling or griefing

and also took my farm

That is NOT against the rules and is not trolling or griefing under Rito definition

but what if i go then barier and don't give any shit about others... ,just playing for my ass... , and having barrier at 180 seconds instead of 240 seconds

What about it? I'll make you a bet. If you pick barrier or teleport as adc for the next 30 games, no one would bitch about your choice of summ. They may or may not remind you to go heal, but they will not bitch or whine about.

TheLegendBoy1 votes

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That is a very subjective definition. Without having witness the game myself, I suppose we only have your word for it.

That is punishable, but not under trolling or griefing

That is NOT against the rules and is not trolling or griefing under Rito definition

What about it? I'll make you a bet. If you pick barrier or teleport as adc for the next 30 games, no one would bitch about your choice of summ. They may or may not remind you to go heal, but they will not bitch or whine about.

Yeah wait to see when someone die ,and is already prepared to pull your eyes for picking barier... and not healing him.. , you think on EUNE they hard about fairplay behaviour ?? , they constantly flame/troll/grief , i one find like this server will be closed in a few years or merged with euw server as the popularity of it decreases in my opinnion , like i see many people there are toxic , just in a day in about 4-5 games encounter 14-15 toxic behaviours ,from toxicity 1 against each other etc... ,to afk intentionally etc.. , to negative attitude etc..

zPOOPz3 votes

If you have played since 2012, then you already know there was a time many seasons ago when the meta is to pick barrier on adc and never heal (when it didn't give the small speed boost and it only target the teammate nearest you and not the lowest hp). People played just fine during that meta. adc only started to switch to heal over barrier when Rito updated the spell to give it a small movement speed boost and make it a smart heal that prioritize lowest hp member within its radius.

Kei1433 votes

Not playing to the META is not trolling or griefing.

Being bad is not griefing.

TheLegendBoy1 votes

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Not playing to the META is not trolling or griefing.

Being bad is not griefing.

yeah , tell me sir , that i don't know to recognize what is a troll/griefer, when i clearly been in that game with him , and i play from 2012 .. , and also have experience about 2000-2500 games ranked.

zPOOPz2 votes

Not a whole lot you described here is trolling or griefing by Rito's definition. you dont get to decide what is trolling and griefing. Rito does.

TheLegendBoy1 votes

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Not a whole lot you described here is trolling or griefing by Rito's definition. you dont get to decide what is trolling and griefing. Rito does.

i think if i woulded leave it after riot , no one woulded ever get banned for griefing/trolling , so beside that , i manually reported today 3 guys already , and this guy if dosn't get banned by system , i pull it manualy report as well , i one don't accept such people menthality in ranked , asked him nicely to pick something with more much sustain...

I one shouldn't be forced to play adc among someone who only wants to play to have fun , and not exactly to win the game ,cause this is why most of people not pick regular support champions , 1 cause they don't master any of them ,and 2 cause they sometimes afraid that they will lose if the adc dosn't pull good plays , so basically i understand they go damage champions ,but then they have to be perfectly good and for support protection and for poke and damage enemy , something like ,lux does , or karma , zilean, brand can poke but also stunn enemy if they get close to his adc , so what ziggs can do if i am in danger or ganked by enemy team ?

Kei1432 votes

It's probably because of that experience that now you can't tell the difference between bad/new or trolling. Cos you expect everything to happen in a certain manner.

TheLegendBoy1 votes

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It's probably because of that experience that now you can't tell the difference between bad/new or trolling. Cos you expect everything to happen in a certain manner.

well , but you clearly can detect if someone told someone to hold himself and play more safely.. , and then if someone will ever report someone , will also understand what riot defin troll as ... , i don't think it wouldn't be same ,but people will at least know what they shouldn't do when starting to have bad scores.... , and listen to them teams , and people who report would likely know then what they report people that they done wrong ... , if you have like right now no definition for troll ,people call 2 6 scores a troller , or anything they want ,because is undefined and that leaves thinghs to be interpreted as they want and thinks...

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

Is there meant to be meaning behind this wall of bastardized punctuation and random thoughts?

TheLegendBoy1 votes

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Is there meant to be meaning behind this wall of bastardized punctuation and random thoughts?

yes it is , but the bold dosn't work , don't ask me why , i wanted to highlight most important thought.

Who care about punctuation , when is 2:21 am in my country , i am not living in NA , and also will not waste time to put ,. , cause you can't artificial put ,. in your mind when to breath and read further.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

What the fuck.

TheLegendBoy1 votes

haha

I don't care you negative vote , i just wanted to share my point , bye is anyway worth to read

Tele II1 votes

Your welcome -from rito.

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