Why the report system is flawed

MattiasNeeson··3 votes·768 views

People can report you out of anger, and if you rack up enough reports due to people disagreeing with your playstyle, you WILL be banned. I was reported for asking for ganks, and when I was banned I didn't even have a chat log from that game. It was from previous games. nothing horrible was said in these games either, and noone was cussed at. It was simply sarcasm and passive aggressiveness.

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Godhri3 votes

How is it flawed if the reports are investigated and your actions are indeed found to be in violation of the rules?

MattiasNeeson2 votes

Investigated within 3 minutes? lol

Kei1433 votes

yea, it's not that hard for a automated system to run keyword checks (plus more) and understands that you were passive-aggressive.

Godhri3 votes

I'm sure they didn't build your case in a mere 3 minutes. You said "previous games" and even summarized what was counted against you in those games. This suggests that they spent more than 3 minutes on your case.

KVbqbFsC8e2 votes

Its a 100% automated system that dishes out punishments based on scanned words within chatlogs. There is no actual investigating.

Kei1433 votes

passive-aggressive ness can get you punished for lots of games, so I don't see anything busted or flawed with the system.

Zombiemaster3 votes

nothing horrible was said in these games either, and noone was cussed at

You don't need to curse at anyone to a jerk or rude towards them. Also, if you believe that nothing horrible was said in those games, would you mind posting the chat logs you received so we can take a look at them?

MattiasNeeson1 votes

this is as bad as it gets, if i posted the other two it'd get too long.

Game 1 MattiasNeeson: lux hows mid tower MattiasNeeson: u sure it wasn't xer MattiasNeeson: time to find out MattiasNeeson: flash auto him MattiasNeeson: gogogoogo MattiasNeeson: GOO MattiasNeeson: omg. MattiasNeeson: lol MattiasNeeson: so she has more cs than u hec and she managed to gank o yus MattiasNeeson: hec is prob the easiset champ to gank with MattiasNeeson: go to a lane and e lol MattiasNeeson: why are you still jungling xD MattiasNeeson: 4 kp MattiasNeeson: more cs MattiasNeeson: hot MattiasNeeson: wtf nerf MattiasNeeson: and 4 kills MattiasNeeson: don't talk MattiasNeeson: u and ur duo MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: no MattiasNeeson: braum MattiasNeeson: dive them hard MattiasNeeson: unless ur low MattiasNeeson: but if we kill zil fuck jhin up MattiasNeeson: kalista falls off at 1 minute in MattiasNeeson: it's k MattiasNeeson: let me get gold MattiasNeeson: ty <3 MattiasNeeson: also braum thank you MattiasNeeson: that was sweet MattiasNeeson: anytime i have ult i'll ult you MattiasNeeson: and we can kill MattiasNeeson: ooh there's the fed renekton wp yas MattiasNeeson: idk she like flew over ur q wtf MattiasNeeson: uh MattiasNeeson: braum if vi has no ult MattiasNeeson: focus renketon MattiasNeeson: over here MattiasNeeson: her* MattiasNeeson: good smite MattiasNeeson: 0 pressure anywhere else MattiasNeeson: 0 gank hec MattiasNeeson: sad MattiasNeeson: i'll report u for harassing me MattiasNeeson: all i said was gank lmao MattiasNeeson: hec MattiasNeeson: stop MattiasNeeson: talking MattiasNeeson: vi has 8 kill participation MattiasNeeson: you have 0 MattiasNeeson: and u only have 3 more cs MattiasNeeson: idc MattiasNeeson: gank for ur duo MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: u still have 0 idc who u gank MattiasNeeson: so toxic.. MattiasNeeson: no you won't MattiasNeeson: b s5 s s6 MattiasNeeson: lul MattiasNeeson: i can tell u have 0 ganks 20 minutes in too MattiasNeeson: now you also admit to wanting to lose MattiasNeeson: muting you MattiasNeeson: you're obvs a troll MattiasNeeson: lol MattiasNeeson: lux don't throw your q until she's dashed already bud MattiasNeeson: braum come bot MattiasNeeson: lets continue our adventure MattiasNeeson: balanced MattiasNeeson: reason? to kill you MattiasNeeson: didn't work out, oh well MattiasNeeson: i already said MattiasNeeson: she falls off 1 minute in MattiasNeeson: if i was trying i wouldn't play kal MattiasNeeson: but i still curbstomped you so. MattiasNeeson: falling off

Zombiemaster2 votes

Okay, so there's a little bit of negativity arguing with the Hecarim. You didn't need to get in to the small argument with the Hecarim near the end of the chat log. Alone, I wouldn't say it's worthy of a punishment, however, this is not the only game that contributed to your punishment.

In order to have a better understanding of why you were punished, I'd need to see all the chat logs you received, not just one game.

MattiasNeeson1 votes

little pissed off this game due to a troll voli support with ignite who was lasthitting minions and kills esp with vayne who needs some gold to get rolling well, looking over game2 i'll admit i was a dick during it so it's all good

Game 3 MattiasNeeson: ??? MattiasNeeson: you said you wouldn't lasthit :/ MattiasNeeson: gp no ult MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: ugh MattiasNeeson: you weren't even close MattiasNeeson: only reason they can beat me is because they have exhaust MattiasNeeson: dive MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: ok ekko MattiasNeeson: and idk why ekko didn't tank the shot MattiasNeeson: or why he went in b4 the wave MattiasNeeson: or why he lasthits everything even though i can easily get it MattiasNeeson: this ekko MattiasNeeson: trying to tilt me MattiasNeeson: gj voli MattiasNeeson: u thought MattiasNeeson: ekko MattiasNeeson: why do you want me to be tilted xd MattiasNeeson: what a legend MattiasNeeson: stop MattiasNeeson: we have no tank MattiasNeeson: omg MattiasNeeson: STOP MattiasNeeson: PINGING ME MattiasNeeson: AND HELP ME MattiasNeeson: YOU ARE THE SUPPORT NOT THE DANGER ALERTER MattiasNeeson: leave the red MattiasNeeson: baron MattiasNeeson: trolls. MattiasNeeson: feels good man MattiasNeeson: eh i tried to group a few times not working out gonna go back to splitting MattiasNeeson: voli can supp me or he can be MattiasNeeson: LMAOOO MattiasNeeson: a joke MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: don't talk troll MattiasNeeson: makes me cringe MattiasNeeson: plz MattiasNeeson: ekko sb MattiasNeeson: oops xD MattiasNeeson: don't wanna bother MattiasNeeson: plz do it MattiasNeeson: i did MattiasNeeson: p MattiasNeeson: plz MattiasNeeson: y you torturing ur carry MattiasNeeson: take the l MattiasNeeson: 0 peel MattiasNeeson: lmao classic MattiasNeeson: tried MattiasNeeson: group mid MattiasNeeson: peel MattiasNeeson: damn i thought MattiasNeeson: try so hard just to get these kind of people MattiasNeeson: fun MattiasNeeson: don't even have 3 items camilee MattiasNeeson: lmao MattiasNeeson: wtf MattiasNeeson: are u doing MattiasNeeson: lol MattiasNeeson: gg MattiasNeeson: LMAOOOOO MattiasNeeson: plz have mercy MattiasNeeson: i tried so hard

Zombiemaster1 votes

So again, this game isn't extremely bad, but there is a lot of unneeded arguing happening here. What you are doing in this game is adding to the negativity that's already there and making the situation worse, which is simply not needed

MattiasNeeson: STOP MattiasNeeson: PINGING ME MattiasNeeson: AND HELP ME MattiasNeeson: YOU ARE THE SUPPORT NOT THE DANGER ALERTER

MattiasNeeson: don't talk troll MattiasNeeson: makes me cringe

MattiasNeeson: try so hard just to get these kind of people

These are just a few of the comments that are really unnecessary and just serve to make the situation worse. Instead of saying in all caps "STOP PINGING ME AND HELP ME," you could try and say "could you please stop pinging me." Also, calling another player a troll is never going to help. If they are a troll, calling them one won't make them stop because they realize they are making you angry. If they aren't a troll, accusing them of being one is simply going to make them angry and possibly retaliate back by either arguing back at you or possibly by actually trolling. Either way, calling someone a troll will not help.

Now, you still haven't provided all of the games you received, though you do admit to being a dick in the second game. So, in game 1 there's slight arguing, game 2 you admit to being a dick, and game 3 there's a decent amount of negativity. Overall, each game may not be worthy of a punishment on their own, but add it all together and you get someone who is showing negative behavior across multiple games, which generally does lead to a punishment.

MattiasNeeson1 votes

I agree with your comments but it's still simply stupid that people can justify bans because of stuff as little as this.

EXE FallenKnight2 votes

If anything is busted with the system its that NOT ENOUGH people get punished, and there are too many alt account users that make it a less than efficient system. The people who do get banned or suspended obviously did something to deserve it. I mean the guy/gal who plays support singed with smite has gotten hundreds-thousands of reports and Riot investigated and decided it wasnt worth a ban so it is much more than just a simple get more reports=instaban numbers game like you were implying it is.

EXE FallenKnight1 votes

You also need to understand that sarcasm is literally impossible to detect in written format without actually saying it was sarcasm. Plus passive aggressiveness can be just as toxic and harmful as regular run of the mill aggressiveness and raging with just that chat log I can say I most likely would have reported you as well. In the future you should focus more on what you need to do, not spend so much time in the chat passively raging at hecarim.

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