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Atomic Masochism··2 votes·477 views

So, I am not the person who was permabanned but I am pretty upset. I understand the policy on saying slurs but I have seen and reported people MUCH worse than this other player and they just got permabanned while other players go around, telling people to kill themselves, among other things, and never get in trouble, AT ALL. I have reported almost every single person I have ever seen do stuff like that, and they never get in trouble. Maybe one in every 30 people I report for that type of behavior (using racial slurs, telling people to kill themselves/uninstall the game). I watched this Eve flame the whole game without ever cussing, someone else uses ONE bad word after being flamed half of the game, gets permabanned. I hardly see how there's justice in that. And for the people in the back, we all know you've all been toxic at least once or twice, if not more (not that it really matters I suppose, but I'm js is all). Even sometimes I say some stupid crap in chat that might be punishable. I say this almost every single time I report people, but I will say it again. Get rid of the REAL toxic people. Throw those stupid AI's out and get real people reading the context of chat's instead of some AI picking and choosing words. This is apart why you still have so many toxic people playing this game constantly.

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Xurreal3 votes

I gave up. It is their game.

I screwed up when I decided to act the way I acted. It doesn't matter if someone else is cursing, raging, flaming, feeding, whatever.

I got caught. I wouldn't have gotten caught if I had behaved. Never mind the reason I misbehaved. I was warned. I read the EULA, the ToU. I knew.

I KNEW. And everyone else in this game has the same knowledge and information available to them as it was to me, it is literally right inside the game client.

So I don't care. If you are on the negative side of the fence, you are accepting that likelihood of getting banned because if you are breaking the rules you get punished just like in real life.

And don't go throwing me that "In real life, XYZ" rebutle because just as the Law is governed by its parties and all who engage in various activities of life (business, medical, scientific, domestic, or otherwise) agree to the Laws that govern their practices. If you have a problem with the punishments for violating the Law, then you do not ever catch that punishment by FOLLOWING the Laws.

Yes, I am angry. No, I don't care if others get permabanned.

Just follow the rules from here out like I do and like so many others do and you'll stay out of trouble.

But break the laws of League of Legends outlined by the Terms of Use agreement that has been indoctrinated by real life lawyers (Summoner's Code is apart of a legally binding contract that only accepting and agreeing to authorizes you to use League) will catch you a punishment...

JUST LIKE BREAKING ANY OTHER LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT.

/rant

League is part of the Real World. It may be a virtual computer game, but its apart of real life. Even Police can't accurately Police everyone because they are not omnipotent or omnipresent. But that they do what they can within their power to do so...

It's the same thing here.

Mindspeaker2 votes

There is never any "context" or "justification" for responding to, reacting to any Intentional negative chat , action or play .

Also there is never any "context" or Justification to negativity commenting on something you simply don't like or what you consider "bad play" of any kind.

If you do respond to something you don't like in game legitimate or something you simply don't like

You deserve punishment . It really is that simple absolutely no "grey " areas

In others words if you cant say anything non-sarcastically positive don't say anything at all.

You also have to go throw multiple punishment stages ...unless Riot think you are REALLY bad and decides you need to skip some

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Riot treats everyone the same. Everyone is given the same escalation pathway of punishments:

  1. 10 game chat restriction
  2. 25 game chat restriction
  3. 14 day ban
  4. Permanent ban

ONE bad word after being flamed half of the game, gets permabanned.

that is not only an exaggeration but incorrect again unless Riot deems it was incredibly bad

To give you some "context " ..on how you are supposed to act her is what you are supposed to do

If you receive or see a verbally abusive comment or even an action or something just you don't like

1 Don't respond ( this includes any type of report x comment . muting x or anything of that nature)

2 Mute them or ignore them ( which ever is applicable )

3 Report on end game screen ( if it was a legitimate offence and not just what you considered "bad play")

This also goes for if you see someone intentionally feeding , afk as well

Sarutobi1 votes

And how many people do you believe Riot could hire that would read every single reported game of every single match being played daily?

Karunamon1 votes

For chat abuse, they don't even need to read it - that's what instant feedback is for.

Mindspeaker1 votes

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For chat abuse, they don't even need to read it - that's what instant feedback is for.

not quite true according to this

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=unobngtr,comment-id=00000000000000010001000200000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-05T18:00:32.861+0000)

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do >not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for >offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

Karunamon1 votes

Flagging for review on chat abuse is at least partially automated tho.

Example: There was a recent story where one summoner was trolling others into typing things like "kys kys kys". He'd then report them after the game, and they'd be punished within 7 minutes or so. Way too fast for a human to ever even see it.

I'd imagine things like inting are a lot harder to prove and a lot more subjective.

Mindspeaker1 votes

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Flagging for review on chat abuse is at least partially automated tho.

Example: There was a recent story where one summoner was trolling others into typing things like "kys kys kys". He'd then report them after the game, and they'd be punished within 7 minutes or so. Way too fast for a human to ever even see it.

I'd imagine things like inting are a lot harder to prove and a lot more subjective.

Interesting maybe its programmed to take action in extreme cases like programmed with multiple ban on sight trigger words as well as flagged for review

Karunamon1 votes

have seen and reported people MUCH worse than this other player and they just got permabanned while other players go around, telling people to kill themselves, among other things, and never get in trouble, AT ALL.

Are you checking their match histories, or are you basing this on not getting the "we handled it" popup? You only get that message if you were the last reporter that led to a punishment.

Xurreal1 votes

I am gonna double post. I don't care.

If you are reporting someone with the expectation of getting them permanently banned, you are toxic.

You should not WANT people to get banned unless they are deserving.

If those people who report and WANT to see people banned always got their way, this game would be suffering, and it is not.

I will say it again, if you report people with the sole intention of seeing them eliminated from the game without so much as giving a thought to their reform...

On the inside, You are toxic.

Mindspeaker1 votes

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I am gonna double post. I don't care.

If you are reporting someone with the expectation of getting them permanently banned, you are toxic.

You should not WANT people to get banned unless they are deserving.

If those people who report and WANT to see people banned always got their way, this game would be suffering, and it is not.

I will say it again, if you report people with the sole intention of seeing them eliminated from the game without so much as giving a thought to their reform...

On the inside, You are toxic.

If you are reporting someone with the expectation of getting them permanently banned, you are toxic.

No one can report you and get you banned for "no reason"

If you a re breaking riots rules " verbal abuse , feeding afk , leavebuster avoidance etc"

or reacting to anyone breaking riots rules or simply at something they don't like

The person who is reporting is not at fault regardless of their motive they are doing a good service for the community as a whole

therefore no they are not toxic regardless of their motives.

You should not WANT people to get banned unless they are deserving.

You are correct to a point if someone can get punished and reform and never get punished again that is the best possible outcome

However if someone is punished and does not reform they i can see why someone would want that individual to be banned

That is also not a toxic thing

Also way the punishment tiers work

if you do get perma banned ultimately you DO deserve it and it is justified

I will say it again, if you report people with the sole intention of seeing them eliminated from the game without so much as giving a thought to their reform.

**Players who get perma banned already had their chance to reform they don't deserve anything more than that **

so no sympathy for those who create their own fate willingly

On the inside, You are toxic.

also incorrect purging a toxic element out of an environment is a noble goal.

Not only that and one should also feel good about having done their part to create a better environment for everyone who is willing to act in a positive respectable civilized manor .

Xurreal1 votes

I see what you're saying, but I can only wish the vast majority were so noble.

What I'm referring to is the "Lets argue and see if we can get this guy to say something bannable" crowds that overwhelm low elo games.

They do poorly, turn to flame, and try to rally their team to report that support or jg because they just don't like what they see or feel the need to pass the blame.

THOSE guys are TOXIC inside and out. This is not the reason you should want to report someone.

They MAKE others "deserve" the ban.

Mindspeaker1 votes

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I see what you're saying, but I can only wish the vast majority were so noble.

What I'm referring to is the "Lets argue and see if we can get this guy to say something bannable" crowds that overwhelm low elo games.

They do poorly, turn to flame, and try to rally their team to report that support or jg because they just don't like what they see or feel the need to pass the blame.

THOSE guys are TOXIC inside and out. This is not the reason you should want to report someone.

They MAKE others "deserve" the ban.

That is what mute is for ...don't play their game ...if you mute them they have no power .

anyone toxic in action or words

Ignore completely Don't react Don't respond in any way mute if its verbal report after game ( without notification - "report x or im reporting you"

Xurreal1 votes

Its not specifically against me.

You see people like Buttom lane, one flames the other, the others goads the one, and before long, we have no bottom lane.

What do you do? Muting won't help that.

Mindspeaker1 votes

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Its not specifically against me.

You see people like Buttom lane, one flames the other, the others goads the one, and before long, we have no bottom lane.

What do you do? Muting won't help that.

ignore it . worry about what your doing let the game play out if you win great if you don't its not the end of the world . No one ever died form losing a video game match or some "points"

OrcrO1 votes

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Xurreal1 votes

Macho bait posting.

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