Just had a game where a blitzcrank on my team refused to mute the lucian that was flaming him. So the logical thing for him to do was refuse to help the team and split push all game. All you need to do is mute a flaming person no need to int or just be a salty player. Mute them and continue being a team player.
SlaughterB 2 votesYa forgot to add, after the game, copy and paste their comments at the end of the match and report them for toxic. And my personal favorite, Block that player. Because no one needs that negativity in their life.
split pushing is a valid way of winning a match. dont say that a single player was the cause of your TEAM losing.
TrulyBland4 votesSplit pushing is also a frequent way of intentionally pissing off your team and/or make your team lose. It's not uncommon that people refuse to actually even be a part of the team that is losing. I've had a shaco do the good old afk-jungle because toplane didn't say "thank you" after a gank. I also recently had a tryndamere that didn't get jungle declare that he will only split push and never leave his lane, despite the enemy having bard and aurelian sol as well as two champions with teleports.
Just because something is a valid strategy in some situations, doesn't mean it's not an obvious form trolling/throwing in other situations.
just because you cant control a player doesnt mean they are trolling. split pushing works if they team works around it. i split push a lot when my team pisses me off. i get objectives, towers, dragons, inhibs, clear one side of the jungle and then the next. yeah its not your responsiblity to tell such a player to listen to you when you think its not working but at the same time whats preventing your team from turtling while that you have a split pusher in a lane pushed almost to base, when you wanna fight a 3v5/2v4 outclassed, under your tower. if your turled and no enemy is pushing then you need to push out a lane. working around a problem player is something everyone should take into consideration.
TrulyBland4 votesjust because you cant control a player doesnt mean they are trolling.
Never said that.
working around a problem player is something everyone should take into consideration.
Agreed.
But all of that doesn't change the fact that there are people straightup admitting that they're trolling or refusing to group up to spite the team. And when they do that just because of something a single person in the team said rather than just muting the instigator, then that person is an asshole. It also doesn't change the fact that in some situations split pushing just doesn't work and is a clearcut cause of a loss. You are cherry-picking examples of when split pushing works, when in reality there are often times when the enemy composition just renders split-pushing and/or turtling ineffective.
You can play around problem players to some extent and in the end win games even when you have somebody literally trying to prevent you from winning. That doesn't mean that person can't be held responsible for the loss.
cherry picking
there are no fruits here kiddo.
That doesn't mean that person can't be held responsible for the loss.
team game? ganging up on a single person doesnt help you win if you didnt know.
TrulyBland4 votesNo. But if a single person is determined to make you lose, there are limits as to what you can do. You are again cherry-picking. But since you seem unfamiliar with the phrase: You are carefully picking the parts of my argument that you feel like you can attack (rather than replying to all of them), just like previously you were only considering specific examples of when you can play around a split-pusher to support your argument, rather than looking at the general case.
tbh i just dont care enough to reply to all of them. i stand by what i said. you stand by yours. no standoff here just one person getting downvoted to hell just cause
TrulyBland4 votesYou are (probably, not a mind-reader) downvoted because you are using a constructed hypothetical scenario to make a judgement about the actual situation OP was in. You are referring to a special case (where the split pusher isn't trying to troll and it's possible to play around them) and from that conclude the general judgement that it's always the entire team's fault and that split pushers aren't trolls. Furthermore you are attacking both hand-selected parts of my posts (ocasionally taken out of context) as well as arguments I didn't make (e.g. "just because you cant control a player doesnt mean they are trolling").
Short version: You are comitting a lot of formal logical fallacies, which when you're on an internet forum will usually lead to downvotes. If you don't care about that, that's all fine and dandy... but it's best to get used to it when you post your thoughts on an internet forum.
can you tell me how to say "i dont care" intelligently?
