Really concerned and confused. Do I deserve to be banned for calmly defending myself?

Off Meta Zilean·11/20/2017, 8:59:29 AM·2 votes·854 views

I don't quite understand why I've just been 14-day banned for this. I was flamed viciously for underperforming when trying out Evelynn toplane, because I'd heard of a very successful Evelynn laner one-trick and wanted to try it. An ally banned my main from me (Zilean is in my name...) so I used the game as a chance to practice the solo lane Evelynn. It was really rough because I was laning versus Teemo, but I roamed and helped set up kills.

Anyway, I was banned after the game. I thought maybe a false intentional-feeding report banned me, since a couple of my allies were flaming me viciously, but it actually says I was banned for verbal abuse? Even though the chatlogs are just me defending myself, saying that we're playing at a Diamond level and they banned away their teammate's one-trick, and that I AM trying to win but I'm not Diamond level with any other champions yet, and to be patient with me.

Here are the chatlogs I was banned for:

Game 1

Off Meta Zilean: I've never played evelynn Off Meta Zilean: so bear with me Off Meta Zilean: probably going to feed viciously Off Meta Zilean: vs teemo Off Meta Zilean: you banned my one trick champion Off Meta Zilean: and you decided not to dodge Off Meta Zilean: you brought this on us Off Meta Zilean: Is one of you a Zilean one trick? Off Meta Zilean: thresh said one of you was a zilean player Off Meta Zilean: and banned it Off Meta Zilean: who banned zil then? Off Meta Zilean: I really dont want to play this Off Meta Zilean: i dont have enough ranged tools to deal with teemo's long ranged harass Off Meta Zilean: do you play Zilean toplane? Off Meta Zilean: nice Off Meta Zilean: me as well Off Meta Zilean: me as well Off Meta Zilean: bruiser/tank or lich bane or normal? Off Meta Zilean: so can we ff Off Meta Zilean: ? Off Meta Zilean: For what? Off Meta Zilean: I didn't troll Off Meta Zilean: I only play 1 champ Off Meta Zilean: and it got banned Off Meta Zilean: so im learning someone new Off Meta Zilean: yeah i couldnt handle teemo's ranged harass Off Meta Zilean: so i had to roam Off Meta Zilean: what's the issue Off Meta Zilean: obviously i'd do badly im a diamond one trick Off Meta Zilean: who had his one trick banned Off Meta Zilean: not 'retaliation Off Meta Zilean: you are being melodramatic Off Meta Zilean: i had no other option Off Meta Zilean: if you ban away your allies only diamond champion Off Meta Zilean: and dont dodge Off Meta Zilean: why would i dodge Off Meta Zilean: i didnt ban zilean Off Meta Zilean: no im not Off Meta Zilean: i can play others Off Meta Zilean: just not as well Off Meta Zilean: uh, no Off Meta Zilean: i can play plenty of champs Off Meta Zilean: at a low platlevel Off Meta Zilean: that'stop 8% Off Meta Zilean: but we're in diamond Off Meta Zilean: you can report me all you like Off Meta Zilean: you knew i dont play any other champs at adiamond level Off Meta Zilean: i tried to win Off Meta Zilean: Veig Off Meta Zilean: you keep saying that, but it doesnt make sense Off Meta Zilean: I spent 90% of early game roaming mid Off Meta Zilean: Now youre flaming me for going back to my lane? Off Meta Zilean: I am not trolling Off Meta Zilean: we're in the top 2% Off Meta Zilean: I can play plenty of champs at a plat 5 level, top 8% Off Meta Zilean: but if you ban away your own teammates one trick then dont flame them for losing to diamonds Off Meta Zilean: See, the people voting no to the ff are actually trolling the team

In this next one, I was having a rough time as Karthus top so some allies reported me because they thought I was trolling. I was trying out Summoner Spellbook so it looked trolly when I tried out smite to steal an enemy jungle camp, but I was legitimately trying to win;

Game 2

Off Meta Zilean: They were waiting for me Off Meta Zilean: Gotta make use of my smite somehow Off Meta Zilean: true Off Meta Zilean: ty Off Meta Zilean: gj Off Meta Zilean: I have R Off Meta Zilean: O Off Meta Zilean: I'd like it <3 Off Meta Zilean: No Off Meta Zilean: ty Off Meta Zilean: Interesting dodging strat Off Meta Zilean: gj team Off Meta Zilean: rammus Off Meta Zilean: i am gonna try to say this patiently Off Meta Zilean: we couldve taken herald Off Meta Zilean: nid went and took drake Off Meta Zilean: we couldve taken herald Off Meta Zilean: then she ganked bot Off Meta Zilean: we still couldve taken herald Off Meta Zilean: then she crossed the entire map and ganked top Off Meta Zilean: and you still didnt come Off Meta Zilean: hurry Off Meta Zilean: too late Off Meta Zilean: ugh Off Meta Zilean: she was 9-1 Off Meta Zilean: ramm Off Meta Zilean: please dont give this herald for free Off Meta Zilean: ramm Off Meta Zilean: le Off Meta Zilean: please Off Meta Zilean: im begging you Off Meta Zilean: help Off Meta Zilean: well yes Off Meta Zilean: shes winnin g al 5 roles Off Meta Zilean: rammus wont help Off Meta Zilean: gj Off Meta Zilean: guys Off Meta Zilean: i think we should call this one Off Meta Zilean: yeahhh Off Meta Zilean: cant really do anything Off Meta Zilean: lets just move on Off Meta Zilean: sorry guys they target banned my champ :/ Off Meta Zilean: we just failed a ff vote 1-4 Off Meta Zilean: right before you completely demolished our team Off Meta Zilean: we cannot win teamfights Off Meta Zilean: and we lost every single role Off Meta Zilean: no Off Meta Zilean: they had too much protection Off Meta Zilean: only malphite Off Meta Zilean: can we plase just move on Off Meta Zilean: there isnt any win condition Off Meta Zilean: for us Off Meta Zilean: we cant win fights Off Meta Zilean: why Off Meta Zilean: tank karthus is legit i just played badly Off Meta Zilean: because im not a diamond karthus player Off Meta Zilean: i was target banned Off Meta Zilean: but you guys didnt wanna ff Off Meta Zilean: but you knew that Off Meta Zilean: when i called for the ff vote at 20 Off Meta Zilean: and you still refused the vote Off Meta Zilean: Who were you? Off Meta Zilean: i dont understand why you guys are making us play this out Off Meta Zilean: they have more than 2x our kills Off Meta Zilean: weve lost every single fight the entire game Off Meta Zilean: I didnt int Off Meta Zilean: im just not a diamond level karthus Off Meta Zilean: what? Off Meta Zilean: no i didnt Off Meta Zilean: i invaded Off Meta Zilean: dont lie about people inting Off Meta Zilean: that's not cool Off Meta Zilean: i ran to their red buff Off Meta Zilean: they ambushed me Off Meta Zilean: I won lane Off Meta Zilean: rammus Off Meta Zilean: gg

In this last game, our allied midlaner's rune page bugged out and he couldn't adjust it, so he trollpicked Lucian mid with Exhaust to try to bait us into dodging to avoid the loss. No one dodged for him, so he fed lane and then just splitpush repeatedly while they killed him, all the while holding onto his exhaust and complaining about how he cant defend midlane as Lucian. Even though he chose Lucian mid. I asked him to please stop trolling/afking and push his lane or anything to help us. Maybe I was punished for this?

Game 3

Off Meta Zilean: luc Off Meta Zilean: please dont lose tower blood Off Meta Zilean: or entire map is boned Off Meta Zilean: you chose Off Meta Zilean: luc mid Off Meta Zilean: <3 <3 Off Meta Zilean: ty shyv Off Meta Zilean: Botlane Off Meta Zilean: could we swap? Off Meta Zilean: actually Off Meta Zilean: luc, let's swap Off Meta Zilean: gj Off Meta Zilean: sigh Off Meta Zilean: no Off Meta Zilean: staying Off Meta Zilean: was the right move Off Meta Zilean: the problem was you standing still inside of their tower Off Meta Zilean: and letting urgot flip you Off Meta Zilean: i dont understand that Off Meta Zilean: we could easily have 2v2'd but i had to blow my ulti to undo your death Off Meta Zilean: my b Off Meta Zilean: I tilted/tunneled after the last play Off Meta Zilean: ill refocus Off Meta Zilean: defend it Off Meta Zilean: why 1v2 Off Meta Zilean: shyuv Off Meta Zilean: that was like 90s ago Off Meta Zilean: even if she had Off Meta Zilean: you'd have died Off Meta Zilean: it wasnt even close Off Meta Zilean: dude Off Meta Zilean: luc Off Meta Zilean: shyv Off Meta Zilean: idk what to say Off Meta Zilean: please Off Meta Zilean: sotp afk farming Off Meta Zilean: luc Off Meta Zilean: liss came bot Off Meta Zilean: that means free mid tower for you Off Meta Zilean: luc Off Meta Zilean: please Off Meta Zilean: stop afking Off Meta Zilean: we need you to take the mid tower Off Meta Zilean: goodness luc Off Meta Zilean: like Off Meta Zilean: are you actually deliberately losingon purpose? Off Meta Zilean: yes 5 mintues ago i asked you to get top Off Meta Zilean: gj team Off Meta Zilean: 1 for 2 is wurf Off Meta Zilean: luc mid is noit a thing Off Meta Zilean: please stop playing it Off Meta Zilean: it was only decent at pro level,a nd then he was nerfed and they never even play it now Off Meta Zilean: he was satuck on his runes Off Meta Zilean: yes Off Meta Zilean: nothing forced him to troll us Off Meta Zilean: by playing an ADC midlane Off Meta Zilean: why would you rather than? Off Meta Zilean: my bad Off Meta Zilean: ima just splitpush Off Meta Zilean: omg Off Meta Zilean: luc Off Meta Zilean: please Off Meta Zilean: why wont you use your summoner spell Off Meta Zilean: he brought exh Off Meta Zilean: he hasnt used it in any fights in the last ~10-15 minutes Off Meta Zilean: dude Off Meta Zilean: im tilted because he's torlling us Off Meta Zilean: it's not like im flaming Off Meta Zilean: im asking him to use his exhaust Off Meta Zilean: we have been dropping it Off Meta Zilean: and silently playing Off Meta Zilean: and hes not using the spell Off Meta Zilean: yeah Off Meta Zilean: i did Off Meta Zilean: damn Off Meta Zilean: wasnt quite close enough Off Meta Zilean: he's been trolling us Off Meta Zilean: His runes bugged out so he trolled us by picking an adc mid with exhaust and never using his spell Off Meta Zilean: and then he complained and insisted he couldnt midlane Off Meta Zilean: even though he chose adc mid Off Meta Zilean: 4v6 is too much Off Meta Zilean: you can end Off Meta Zilean: yes

At this point, I get flamed for playing Zilean toplane while being critical of the midlane ADC pick. I was not bragging about my winrate, it's just the defense I have to give to avoid being flamed or having allies AFK from the start when they think "oh we dont have a legit toplane champion we lose."

Off Meta Zilean: i got dia with 65% w/r with zil top Off Meta Zilean: focus on actual performancxe Off Meta Zilean: it isnt Off Meta Zilean: luc mid is 40% Off Meta Zilean: we arent Off Meta Zilean: we're talking abotu actual performance Off Meta Zilean: not even pros play luc mid Off Meta Zilean: anymroe

Even if those final comments weren't super 'positive', discussing the meta-state of a pick isn't bannable. Imagine if, in the deciding, final game of your next Promotional series, an ally locked in Blitzcrank AD carry. Do you think that saying, "Blitzcrank is not an actual ADC, please stop trolling us. It has a 25% winrate," would mean that you should be banned immediately after the game? It's just an opinion, not flame...

Please help me resolve this...I'd really like to be back on my account...if I'm not allowed to speak at all, then I won't, but this doesn't feel right...

17 Comments

LitAF11/20/2017, 9:07:20 AM4 votes

You can't defend yourself in this game. You're punished for typing too much basically. Nothing you can do about it but to take the ban.

Kynin11/20/2017, 9:33:57 AM3 votes

No Zillean main deserves a ban. They are a dying breed that league should cherish not punish.

Final Spark Lux11/20/2017, 9:42:21 AM2 votes

You talk way too much, but regardless, you're asking the wrong people. Send a ticket into Riot and appeal the ban. They can go through the games and see what really happened and make a decision. Asking boards if you deserved it will do literally nothing for you.

Tôm11/20/2017, 9:15:07 AM2 votes

Trust me, this game is unfair as hell. The other day i went 4/0 and got 2 turrets toplane at 15 min with Gnar and my Botlane was feeding and for some reason blaming me? "Aids top" "Useless toplane" ?? Telling me to die and what not. I wanted to type the most horrible shit so fucking bad but i had to contain myself otherwise i would've end up like you for defending myself.

Fuck Rito.

Sarutobi11/20/2017, 10:22:06 AM1 votes

Did you recently get off of a chat restriction? If so i can see why you went up in the tier of punishment.

Your first game you basically gave up the moment you got into the game all because you didn't get the champion you wanted. Trying to force an FF all because you didnt get to play Zilean brings down the teams moral and very unsportsmanlike!

The rest of your games while not toxic, you just seems to be instigating, and not helping resolve the problem. If the Lucian wanted to AFK/troll telling him to stop and berating him isnt going to solve the problem. Thats the point of trolling. To ruin the game and agitate the players involved. So why give them that satisfaction of getting mad? Muting them and report them after the game is the only real solution because it lets the system know they are breaking the rules. If you are berating them while they are breaking the rules then that just makes two people breaking the rules, and now the rest of your team needs to deal with not only them, but now you!

chipndip111/20/2017, 5:59:56 PM1 votes

I think you just droned on way too long. Being overly distracting by being negative to this extent is reportable. If you have a habit of this, a portfolio could build up.

abelha11/21/2017, 6:40:37 AM1 votes

people are used to see people flaming in chat, so they read your texts like you were intense flaming, ignore these people and go to the support page