Permaban

Pedobasher··1 votes·1,153 views

Hey Guys, I think EUW also bans players for bad behaviour without watching the games or even the chat.... and the support doesn't even react to my questions so maybe it works here. I received a permaban for "Are u dumb?" and "autist" had a 14 day ban before ... in the game (One for All btw) I just wanted to have fun but no way .... I've been flamed by 2 guys for example they called me "retard" probably unpunished and my words above were the reaction to "retard"

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Arisha the Dark5 votes

Ok, I'll be short since this has been said many, many times before.

Each players behaviour is judged individually. If someone flamed at you and you flamed back, if both of you get reported in that match, both are judged equally as both flamed. "He started it" does not give you right to flame back. So just use mute and report after match. Flaming back is as reportable and bannable as flaming first.

Pedobasher

Ok ok but in which way are those quotations abuses... u have to somehow differentiate between what I've wrote and what he wrote... If anyone flamed me for playing full ad in OfA I just had to ask a serious question. Sure I had received a warning that the next ban would be permanently but being permanently banned for writing things like I did after 5 years of playing without any problems is just not fair .... I've asked for a permanent chat ban but no ... and it was called " PERMANENT BAD BEHAVIOUR"

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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Ok ok but in which way are those quotations abuses... u have to somehow differentiate between what I've wrote and what he wrote... If anyone flamed me for playing full ad in OfA I just had to ask a serious question. Sure I had received a warning that the next ban would be permanently but being permanently banned for writing things like I did after 5 years of playing without any problems is just not fair .... I've asked for a permanent chat ban but no ... and it was called " PERMANENT BAD BEHAVIOUR"

The way punishments work in this game: 10 games chat restriction, 25 games chat restriction, 14 day ban, permaban. One exception, if you used one of the zero-tolerance words, like racial slur, then it goes straight to 14 days ban as your first punishment.

Thing is, if you did receive 3 previous punishments, then according to Riot, you received enough warnings and if it wasn't enough for you to reform, they don't want you to play their game anymore, so permaban.

Point is, they gave you warnings and time to reform, you haven't. Now they made a very clear message to you "we do not want you here, if you can't follow our rules".

Arammus2 votes

as alrdy mentioned, someone elses behavior doesnt excuse yours. "reacting" to something is still counter-flame.

and the 14 day ban also clearly says "this is your last chance. the slightest misbehavior will result in a permaban".

"are u dumb?" is not positive. and not really neutral either. and autist is just used as an insult. thus your account is gone. theres nothing for the support to "reconsider".

also a general rule ppl like to say: chatlogs. include them. even tho in your case it doesnt matter.

and just to make sure: you CAN call someone a retard and you wont get punished. because riot allows quite a few "accidents" before you receive your first punishement, the 10 games CR. after that tho you get to the permaban pretty fast. so yea someone calling you retard and them not being punished is normal because they most likely dont do it frequently.

Pedobasher1 votes

Thanks for your answer dude :) But still I don't get it when they write "PERMANENT BAD BEHAVIOUR" for 2 or 3 games within 5(!) Years

Arammus1 votes

well the IFS (instant feedback system) is in place since 2 years now? or 3? im not sure. so technically it only counts from there and every time you get a punishement you gotta start your behavior from 0 again :/

Pedobasher1 votes

Dann it :/ Ok item 3070

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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Thanks for your answer dude :) But still I don't get it when they write "PERMANENT BAD BEHAVIOUR" for 2 or 3 games within 5(!) Years

2 things you got wrong. Games they showed you in your chat logs are examples, not all games you were justly reported in. Unjust reports don't count, they are discarded. Permaban is different, because you already had 3 warnings. Once you got your 14 day ban, being even slightly toxic in 1 match is enough to be permabanned.

As for "noob", it originally means "newbie" or "rookie", but if it is used as a way of telling someone "you are so bad, this might be your first time playing this game", it's harassment.

In general, what words you use doesn't matter, what matters is how you use them. Word "bad" doesn't inherently mean anything offensive, but if you call someone bad, it is offensive. Only exceptions are zero-tolerance words.

Real Sexy Yoona1 votes

Let's get this clear. You said "Are u dumb?" and "autist". While the first offense is mildly toxic in my opinion, calling someone an "autist" or "autistic" is objectively crossing the line. Since you already had a 14 day ban before, you got perma banned this time around. What is the issue here? You received fair punishment based on your actions. Just wanting to have fun doesn't equate to calling someone an "autist". It simply doesn't.

What happened to the other guys shouldn't concern the enactment of your perma ban. Regardless of the two of them saying "retard", you said things that you shouldn't have said. The other two probably deserves their due punishment as well, but that doesn't mean you didn't deserve yours. No system is perfect, hell robbers and criminals go rampant without getting caught irl. When one is caught, why on earth would he complain about other criminals not getting caught and have that somehow lessen his own punishment or state that the system is unfair. You just got unlucky getting punished for what you deserve, but that punishment is fair.

Pedobasher1 votes

If u are referring to real life I can say ... who the hell would report things like that irl?? U have to see the situation there as well autist was the only word which shows a "changed perception ( now I had time 2 Google it lol ) being flamed for full ad Veigar is 2 mich as well... being a retard is a disability whereas autism isn't ....

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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If u are referring to real life I can say ... who the hell would report things like that irl?? U have to see the situation there as well autist was the only word which shows a "changed perception ( now I had time 2 Google it lol ) being flamed for full ad Veigar is 2 mich as well... being a retard is a disability whereas autism isn't ....

I said all I wanted, just want to make a point about autism. Is it disability or not is questionable. While people with autism can perform very good in some tasks it does limit them in other areas. Still, a lot of people see autism as just another word for retarded, so it all depends on how you used that word. If you called someone autistic, because they called you retarded, then it is easy to assume you used it in derogatory way. Which is verbal abuse.

Pedobasher1 votes

Autist was a few minutes later ... I had noticed that full ad Veigar isn't that cool xD but after every death they wrote "..." and then my stats followed by something like "ad Veigar op"

Pedobasher1 votes

But thanks for the rest of your answer ... then it's smurftime probably .... and now I'll report everyone who writes " noob" , "easy" and "omg" because these are equally hard words lol

Arisha the Dark1 votes

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But thanks for the rest of your answer ... then it's smurftime probably .... and now I'll report everyone who writes " noob" , "easy" and "omg" because these are equally hard words lol

They are not equally "hard" words, but they are equally reportable. So yes, you should report people for saying those.

Wait, did you think that calling people "noob" and saying "easy" it the end of match are not reportable? It explains a lot. Your main issue, is that you don't seem to understand what counts as toxic behaviour or harassment.

Pedobasher1 votes

Noob is the short form of newbie I thought so I counted it like "rookie"

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