Players banned for 7 or 14 days after 22/08/2017 wont get their season rewards.
But players banned, lets imagine, from 8/11/2017 to a further date will receive and maintain their season rewards.
So fucking fair, but you know what? Nothing that surprises me. Afterall we are talking about riot.
Source of the ss: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-support/W0aEONuP-2017-ranked-rewards-help-desk
Chermorg7 votesThe season rewards are based on how you end the season. They are a snapshot of your performance - hence why you do not get a higher/lower border if you are ranked higher/lower during preseason or next season. That snapshot includes a measure of your recent punishment history - if you were punished prior to the end of the season, you're in a "limbo" state. Riot has set a hard deadline of 3 months (actually a couple weeks less than 3 full months this year) to show reform in between punishment and end of season. If someone is punished after the season is over, they still ended the season on good terms, and as such they keep their rewards. The rewards, again, are a snapshot in time of your performance - not a rolling indicator.
ceNLIFE5 votesYour comment lacks of fundamental reasoning.
If riot wants the season rewards to be based on how my behavior performance was, then they should evaluate it as a whole (12 months) and not in 8 months of the season.
A guy banned on 21/08/2017 is totally fine for them, but another guy banned in 22/08/2017 have no chance to receive their rewards because THEY want to. Just within 24 hours everything can change. I cant agree with it, its not fair and you know it.
And there is more, now we know that season will end tonight 07/11/2017 23:59:59 . A player banned in 08/11/2017 00:00:01 will receive his rewards. I am asking you, where is the fairness in all of this?
Chermorg3 votesAgain, it is completely fair. The rewards are based on your standing at one moment in time, just as is, say, a T-shirt for an organization you are in. If you behaved up until they gave the T-shirt’s out, you get to wear it, even if they kicked you out after - it’s your T-shirt once they hand it to you as you were in the organization when they gave them out. Likewise, if you misbehaved, were on probation, but then by the time in the year they handed out shirts you had recovered, you’d still get the shirt.
The season rewards are a snapshot of how you ended the season on the exact end of season date. They are not a trophy or anything like that - they are a record of your standing as of one particular second.
ceNLIFE1 votesIts not fair, and your answer is a pure contradiction. Season ends tonight at midnight. Rewards will be given out in the next few days. Imagine a summoner being banned tonight after midnight (banned at 08/11/2017 00:00:01). This summoner failed his behavior, this summoner hasnt received yet his t-shirt but he will receive his "T-shirt" even with bad behavior. How a single second can change everything . So you will have to arrange another example and another story, because this one doesnt make much sense. Anyway thanks for your reply! I just want things to be fair, but thats asking too much
Chermorg2 votesI disagree with you that it’s unfair.
The season rewards are designed to measure your performance as of one second - the end of the season. Likewise, in a race, it doesn’t matter what place you’re in all around the track, it matters what place you’re at when you cross the finish line. If they cross the finish line then immediately stop, they’ll still get first place. But if they stop before the finish line, they will likely be passed, unless they stopped way before the finish line and could catch up again.
ceNLIFE1 votesLmao, then why the finish line ends in August when the season finishes in November?
Chermorg1 votesThe finish line is the end of the season. The August cutoff is that point where after which if you stopped racing it’d be impossible to catch back up and win the race.
ceNLIFE1 votesThank you for your replys, i honestly understand your point of view and respect it, but i dont agree with it, and i think its pointless to try to make you understand my own point of view.
Chermorg2 votesI don’t want you to think I don’t understand your point of view - you’ve articulated it very well and politely and I commend you for such.
I think we can certainly agree to disagree here, and what matters is we both understand each other and are polite with each other about it, which I certainly am trying to be.
Kye L91 votesWHY DO U HAVE A BLUE NAME I WANT ONE O_O
ceNLIFE1 votesWhat do you mean XD
Chermorg5 votesThe blue name is given to Arbiters - basically we volunteer as moderators on this (and other) subboards along with the wardens and archivists, and we are knowledgeable about the punishment and behavior systems :)
ceNLIFE1 votesThank you, i understand now.
ytt5v55 votesThis is so fcking unfair..
Excalibait4 voteshere's an idea: just don't do either.
woah, magicly no punishments!
Anastaecia2 votesThey let you know of this 2 months in advance.
ceNLIFE1 votesThis has nothing to do with this post..
Anastaecia1 votesThis has nothing to do with this post..
OFC it does...You are complaining about something they notified you about 2 months before it happened. PLenty of time to improve your saltiness.
ceNLIFE1 votesBut what saltiness baby? Holly, i will ask again, what does riot statement 2 or 3 months ago have to do with my point? I am comparing why should equal behavior be treated diferently in different stages of the season
Xurreal2 votesTheir game,Their rules
When you make your own game, then you can decide what is fair in that game.
Kye L92 voteswhy are you whining about punishments, stop being toxic and you wont need to worry about it :O
DrCyanide2 votesSomeone who gets punished on the Nov 8th is lucky, someone who reaches Gold on the Nov 8th is unlucky. Such is the nature of deadlines, I don't see how this one is any different than any other deadline.
As for people punished earlier in the season, Riot maintains they want players to reform. Someone who got a 14 day ban in February but who changed their ways to become an example in the community should be eligible for Rewards.
ceNLIFE1 votesI understand and partial agree with you. But your answer is not a coherent one.. Why not simple make who ever got only one Ban this season to receive rewards? The end of season deadline (tonight) is perfectly acceptable, season must end at some point right? What about 22 August 2017? Thats none sense.. Its not fair in my point of view, both summoners inflicted riot behavior policy, the difference is in some cases thats fine, and in others its not fine. I cant look into this and think its fair. I understand you and respect you, but i cant agree.
OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votesBy that logic, Riot could just as easily say that any player who received a ban is ineligible for ranked rewards for the entire season.
ceNLIFE1 votesOr they could allow players to have 1 ban per season and allow them to receive rewards. It would not be the first time.
HalcyonDweller1 votesThey don't want to give rewards to players who have not reformed. Some of the players who were punished too recently could just as well be very toxic still and could otherwise receive rewards that they do not deserve.
This way Riot can be more confident that most players who receive the rewards will likely deserve them. It was probably based on some data about player behavior and which players had reformed and which didn't, as well as what amount of days after their punishment it could be safe to assume that they truly were reformed.
Eedat1 votesHonestly just seems like you're super salty that you aren't getting rewards or something
ceNLIFE1 votesI am generally salty concerning justice and fairness
archerno11 votesI am generally salty concerning justice and fairness
When did u start playing league?
ceNLIFE1 votesIf you explain me what point you want to make with it, i can answer. Right now it seem irrelevant question.
Kye L91 votesjustice and fairness in league of legends lmao good one buddy
ceNLIFE1 votes? Why does everybody need to be just like you, hmmm??
"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil but by those who watch them without doing anything " :)
archerno11 votesIf you explain me what point you want to make with it, i can answer. Right now it seem irrelevant question.
Well this system was in place for 4 years already. And suddenly you decided its unfair. Did you complain about it being unfair before?
ceNLIFE1 votesThats a great question and point from you. The answer is no. But that doesnt mean i am wrong. Eventhow i never complained about it, i never agreed with it either.
And before you judge me and before you call me oportunist, saying that i only complain about this because i will fail the rewards, let me tell you that i already helped a lot of people in league when they were having trouble with stolen accounts.
archerno11 votesThats a great question and point from you. The answer is no. But that doesnt mean i am wrong. Eventhow i never complained about it, i never agreed with it either.
And before you judge me and before you call me oportunist, saying that i only complain about this because i will fail the rewards, let me tell you that i already helped a lot of people in league when they were having trouble with stolen accounts.
But thats the point. You are calling it unfair. But if they change it now, wouldnt that be unfair? Wouldnt that be unfair to people who were in same soup in s4, s5, s6?
ceNLIFE1 votesI am not asking for people who got ban before 22/08/17 to lose their rewards. That would be fcking unfair!
Im saying that they could allow both players who were banned once in this season to receive it, either before or after 22/08/17
archerno11 votesI am not asking for people who got ban before 22/08/17 to lose their rewards. That would be fcking unfair!
Im saying that they could allow both players who were banned once in this season to receive it, either before or after 22/08/17
Well, thats not gonna happen since they announced that those will lose rewards. Only thing you can argue is for them to remove this feature next season.
ceNLIFE1 votesYeah.. Hopefully the next season will change this.
Anyway fkk this garbage company
Mizuki Zahra1 votesbanned and chat restriction are 2 different punishments. and the season ends therefore the post season is preseason for next season and those punishments are for the new season kind of like the placements but for behavior. its easy to follow you just have to read it.
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HalcyonDweller1 votesHow'd you get that pop during champ select if you went to bed after that game?
And why does that look suspiciously similar to an image posted to Discord hours before that game? Even the moving parts of the client are the same.
Because cream is faking everything for attention, lol
They haven't accomplished anything, and they most certainly aren't responsible for any sort of operation. They just saw that people were getting bait banned and thought it would be 'fun' to create an elaborate conspiracy about their 'operation' where they train people to bait-ban others.
The lengths some people will go to in order to get attention... :P When it would be so much easier to just act decent towards others.
Edited for politeness.
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HalcyonDweller1 votesI'm not disputing that people got bait-banned. I know it happened.
But cream isn't running an operation or training people to do it. They are just an opportunist claiming credit for others' misdeeds in order to try to get attention, much like how certain organizations around the world claim credit whenever a bombing occurs.
Mizuki Zahra1 votesHow'd you get that pop during champ select if you went to bed after that game?
And why does that look suspiciously similar to an image posted to Discord hours before that game? Even the moving parts of the client are the same.
[zombie-brand-clap]
Mizuki Zahra1 votesGg dude nice meetin ya in game. For creapeye! Classic.
We got the garen. U saw it happen live.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/371702591937183747/378028410745651210/unknown.png
im gonna go with the ekko player on this is a lie, i did get garen to stop repeating it. also the game was kinda fun super off meta rush mid stuff too bad talon was broken. i hope you had your fun i really only tried to troll you with 3 discord accounts for the lulz. im an internet troll (never in game tho). my greatest troll was when my friend asked me why i still had ie on my laptop (he watched me bring it out of the box and turn it on for the first time) so i told him its faster than chrome because less people use it...my gwad did he rage for 5 min till he realized i was yankin his chain as fat albert would say lol
[sg-miss-fortune]
gg tho was nice to get trolled like that i actually had fun
Ekkremental1 votes[deleted]
Mizuki Zahra1 votesTalon's busted, the new runes are a dumpster fire. I used to only bait ban for maybe one or two games a day then hop on this account, but until there's some serious balance changes it's full time baiting for me.
They made Ekko 100% unplayable, and everyone and their dog is telling me to try somebody else. Not happening. I won't throw him away, I won't give up on him.
It's not just me, either. Every game I'm seeing at least one other person on my team get taken for 80% of their health by some support's basic attack.
You weren't half bad, btw, especially given the circumstances. gg.
i guess. i know im bad i just play for fun if i actually read the descriptions of things in this game maybe i could hit a high silver 3 lol
