Hey Riot, can you maybe hire Player Support that understand even the most basic fundamentals of LoL?

F6 Tornado·5/7/2019, 1:41:23 AM·101 votes·20,953 views

So I made a previous post about how my game of going 1/7 Rammus jungle was included as a game where I was intentionally feeding or griefing despite me not being toxic at all, barely saying a word, not running under towers or into enemies, not troll building or acting malicious to teammates. So I contact support about this specific game and this is what the support agent, who seemingly has never played or watch a game of League in their life, had to say:

"Hey again,

I believe that one was included based on the score and in the game that you said that if they did not ward you were not leashing.

[1:24] F6 Tornado (Rammus): hello [1:27] F6 Tornado (Rammus): no ward no leash"

Just wow.. what else can you say.. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Firstly, you are not required to leash junglers at all, it is a personal decision depending on the lane matchup and whether you deem it is necessary. It does help your jungler for sure, but you may not want to leash for reasons such as cheesing or lane priority, and some junglers need leashes less than others.

Secondly,** I WAS NOT EVEN THE LANER, I WAS THE JUNGLER WHO WAS NOT LEASHED LOL**. I was just stating that I did not get a leash nor did I get a ward on my opposite side buff (as is common practice to be aware of jungle pathing and invades) so I was a bit behind due to the actions of my team.

Thirdly, "the score" ?? [zombie-brand-mindblown] How is 1/7 an egregious score, that's incredibly common, I literally see scores like that (or usually worse) nearly every single game, especially on the losing team. Just baffling that this line was even included.

It's really insane how these player support agents are basically just there not to actually look at individual cases and determine if they were fair, but instead to just reach as hard as they can to try to justify the punishment in any way possible because they have no intention of ever changing it. I mean they either did not look at this game for more than 30 seconds, or they have just never played a single game of league in their life and don't understand what leashing or warding opposite side is.

Just really insane, you would think with all the money Rito is making from skins that they could afford to hire player support agents with even an ounce of experience in the game especially if they are going to be judging cases of griefing, intentionally feeding, and trolling. But I guess that is too much to ask XD

127 Comments

Galaxyburstz5/7/2019, 1:46:28 AM55 votes

Jungler: no need for leash Riot: 14 Day Suspension for trolling Welcome to Season 9

Telephone Booth5/7/2019, 1:54:24 AM51 votes

Okay lol that support agent sucks. Wow.

ModPeriscope5/7/2019, 4:31:10 AM23 votes

Well, I'd say share your chat logs, but it appears you were banned for intentionally feeding. You can, however, share a screenshot of your conversation with support.

I think it's pretty obvious from the replay that you spent large amounts of the game just standing there, mostly in base. Sometimes in the jungle. Sometimes in front of the Rift Herald, where the enemy would spot you. There was an odd play where you flashed in front of the mid tower turret, although I think that was just a badly timed and badly executed play.

Did you bring up your connection issue with support? What did they say?

SanKakU5/7/2019, 1:09:08 PM15 votes

Interesting story if it were true, but it's not. Ph03n1xb1rd just pointed out an enormous flaw with your argument.

YOU PLACED ZERO WARDS IN THAT GAME

Why make up a story about wards being discussed?

I could go on to guess that you're playing on a shared/purchased account or something like that, or maybe the simple answer is that you play this game while under the influence of mind altering drugs and you troll your team when you do that.

I don't know what's going on here, but it's clear that your behavior is unacceptable.

Dr Dog5/7/2019, 2:50:38 PM11 votes

"basic fundamentals" like warding once? like ganking? like doing more than 4k dmg in over 30 goddamn minutes? ya keep that ban and think about it next time you wanna soft int

Ph03n1xb1rd5/7/2019, 12:47:41 PM8 votes

Well, first of all, you are right regarding the support, whenever i encountered them, they felt like bots or just having no idea about how the game works.

On the other hand, YOU PLACED ZERO WARDS IN THAT GAME AND DEALT 3.1K DAMAGE TO ENEMY CHAMPS. Do you honestly believe, that somebody with a little game knowledge would think that you did not troll? You had a trinket which produces wards for free, but you chose not to place ONE, for 30 minutes...

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, sir!

Ps.: The support is truly pathetic :\

B04LeJo5/7/2019, 8:18:53 PM6 votes

This post is ridiculous. I wonder if OP actually thinks he got banned just for that rammus game and didnt deserve it. 0 wards, barely dmg to the enemies, 1/7. Game before is similar, Vi 0/12 before there was 0/4 (225 dmg btw), 0/6, 1/5. These 5 games are almost in a row.

funny that YOU flame the riot support [zombie-brand-facepalm]

GatekeeperTDS5/7/2019, 1:50:52 AM6 votes

Do you have a point here?

Aggro yi5/7/2019, 5:09:14 AM6 votes

Precisely! Bang on with this post. The support team only tries to justify the punishment is corerct. I don't think it is support team's fault, as Riot hired them to do this.

As a general advice, I suggest not to spend rp on this game at all. Your account can anytime be permabanned for those small reason. I learnt it the hard way.

Seriously riot, not leashing for the jungler is bannable????????

jorjer5/7/2019, 4:08:43 PM6 votes

Are you sure you got the restriction because of the 1/7 game and not the game before that where you went 0/12 with 33cs in 25 minutes and were level 6 at the end? I feel like as a Silver you should not be getting OP scores of under 3 very often. But I agree with you that 1/7 should not be reportable even with fairly low damage. I once got flamed by my team playing bot even though I kept telling them it was my Janna support who was doing nothing. She ended the game with 222 dmg--she wasn't inting though, just terrible.

spirit cooking5/7/2019, 8:39:14 AM4 votes
 Then the banned kid makes a new account and trolls new players out of frustration.  Most banned people dont leave.  They morph into worse versions of themselves because they dont care anymore.  Imagine killing  your own game like this.  


 My favorite was the Rengar that got banned for the champion he locked in and choice of summoner spells.  This ban was reviewed by player support, and then by Kenryu.  It stood as valid.

 Whats unique is we actually got the whole teams chat. 

**Keyru (NA)

You went into Champ Select as Top pick and after ban phase decided to take your Jungler's hovered pick and IMMEDIATELY switch to Ghost/Cleanse. 

This wasn't in any way doing an off-meta pick or you getting trolled, but instead, you trolling and griefing your team from the start. The suspension was accurate.

Pre-Game Chat:
[2019-02-11 18:02:12 PST] Trolled Teammate: really
[2019-02-11 18:02:45 PST] Teammate 1: ?
[2019-02-11 18:02:48 PST] Teammate 2: np
[2019-02-11 18:02:50 PST] Teammate 2: we report them
[2019-02-11 18:02:57 PST] Teammate 1: whats the problem here
[2019-02-11 18:03:02 PST] Teammate 2: idk
[2019-02-11 18:03:04 PST] Teammate 2: we report, dw
[2019-02-11 18:03:06 PST] Teammate 2: 2 bans
[2019-02-11 18:03:07 PST] Trolled Teammate: this guy took my rengar and is inting
[2019-02-11 18:03:08 PST] Teammate 1: yea
[2019-02-11 18:03:10 PST] Teammate 2: ya
[2019-02-11 18:03:11 PST] Teammate 1: im not dodging
[2019-02-11 18:03:14 PST] Teammate 2: but u pick soraka and int too
[2019-02-11 18:03:14 PST] Teammate 1: you guys can both take a fat ban
[2019-02-11 18:03:15 PST] Teammate 2: so
[2019-02-11 18:03:18 PST] Teammate 2: u reported as rwell
[2019-02-11 18:03:27 PST] Teammate 2: all good
[2019-02-11 18:03:28 PST] Teammate 2: 2 bans
[2019-02-11 18:03:31 PST] Teammate 2: will be a worth loss
[2019-02-11 18:03:38 PST] Ozu: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGOOOOGOO
[2019-02-11 18:03:38 PST] Teammate 3: I've had 2 remakes
[2019-02-11 18:03:40 PST] Teammate 3: and 4 dodges
[2019-02-11 18:03:42 PST] Teammate 3: please
[2019-02-11 18:03:43 PST] Teammate 3: not again
[2019-02-11 18:04:00 PST] Teammate 3: someone dodge
[2019-02-11 18:04:01 PST] Teammate 3: ffs
[2019-02-11 18:04:14 PST] Ozu: dance mid
[2019-02-11 18:04:14 PST] Teammate 2: nah
[2019-02-11 18:04:14 PST] Ozu: gogo**